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#201 Taisa Sodai Lopez Kerensky

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:15 AM

View Postdervishx5, on 13 February 2015 - 03:09 AM, said:


You're dumb. Go away.

What a well thought out comeback. Hopterque is correct though, we did encounter some definite loyalists (not dropping names since thats just rude) during our drops in the wormhole zone. No idea if they were acting with the approval of Marik's leaders but there was no denying that they were dropping on us.

#202 hopterque

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:15 AM

View Postdervishx5, on 13 February 2015 - 03:09 AM, said:


You're dumb. Go away.



You're the guy who literally didn't know your faction was cooperating with us like 4 or 5 nights ago, when we had Grizzly in our teamspeak the whole time.

#203 Abivard

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:19 AM

View PostMischiefSC, on 13 February 2015 - 01:55 AM, said:

FRR has killed tons of Clanners too. So has Steiner. Just...

neither of them have walked away from it before. Repeatedly.


Steiner constantly RUNS away from the clan border, so I guess your statement is true.

#204 Joe Decker

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:26 AM

View PostDer Hesse, on 13 February 2015 - 02:12 AM, said:

Cool Picture....but still....did you drop there the last weeks? If yes you should know why the map looks like this right now. Defending or not there would hardly be a noticeable difference on the map.
Now that CSJ lost many mercs you can finally see that we are indeed pushing back.


Thanks :)

I can only say if Marik had fought Davion like you fight the Clans - Marik Space would be yellow right now. We had 2 Merc Units while Davion had minimum 6 big ones, probably more. HHoD, TMC, C4, ACES, AW, RRB, PL, Argyle Lancers... not sure how many I missed here.

You Guys lack Focus and you need it. Don't run from the Fight when it is close.

Prove that you want to fight the Clans - we brought you Numbers - you left us alone. Instead of that your Focus switches to Marik and Davion ...

And btw also Ex-Davion Units were fighting for Kurita this Week. You did not really use these Resources well...

We will see how your Situation changes, now that at the End of this Week Marik and Davion Support for Kurita will end.

Edited by Joe Decker, 13 February 2015 - 03:41 AM.


#205 dervishx5

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:26 AM

View Posthopterque, on 13 February 2015 - 03:15 AM, said:



You're the guy who literally didn't know your faction was cooperating with us like 4 or 5 nights ago, when we had Grizzly in our teamspeak the whole time.


Fair enough, you caught me red handed there. I was curious to see how ms played and how well you guys stood up against them. I was aware of the ceasefire, and I did stop dropping after socop told me to.

But I highly suggest we both watch our tone.

#206 Koshirou

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:27 AM

I don't make any decisions, but if it were up to me:
1.) Close the wormhole. It is useless and only serves as a source of conflict. If Marik is true to their word, that should be over very quickly.
2.) Counterattack on Clan front.
3.) Simultaneously expand the buffer on the Davion border a bit to prepare for a possible repeat of the deep Davion strikes into Kuritan territory. FS still have almost twice as many worlds as DC, they can afford to yield a bit without their territory getting ragged up. But don't actually launch a large scale attack.
4.) Leave all other IS factions alone.

Edited by Koshirou, 13 February 2015 - 03:30 AM.


#207 Joe Decker

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:48 AM

View PostKoshirou, on 13 February 2015 - 03:27 AM, said:

I don't make any decisions, but if it were up to me:
1.) Close the wormhole. It is useless and only serves as a source of conflict. If Marik is true to their word, that should be over very quickly.
2.) Counterattack on Clan front.
3.) Simultaneously expand the buffer on the Davion border a bit to prepare for a possible repeat of the deep Davion strikes into Kuritan territory. FS still have almost twice as many worlds as DC, they can afford to yield a bit without their territory getting ragged up. But don't actually launch a large scale attack.
4.) Leave all other IS factions alone.


1. Yes, but not at this Timepoint. Furthermore it is thought as a Barricade for a Time when the Clans get close to their real Goal : Terra. You have to be aware that you can close it - yet that would mean you Guys have to carry the Defense of Terra alone then. I absolutely agree Marik has to stop expanding their Area in Kurita Direction over there of Course. Any Rogues and Trolls who still attack need to be reported to our HQ.
2. Yes
3. No, there is no Need to anymore - you also expanded far enough into Davion Space.
4. Yes

Edited by Joe Decker, 13 February 2015 - 03:51 AM.


#208 Karl Marlow

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:50 AM

The Wormhole is about to be more than just an island. It's also a bullwark against the clans should they reach that far south. I don't see any need for it to 'close'

#209 Joe Decker

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:53 AM

View PostDer Hesse, on 13 February 2015 - 02:12 AM, said:

Cool Picture....but still....did you drop there the last weeks? If yes you should know why the map looks like this right now. Defending or not there would hardly be a noticeable difference on the map.
Now that CSJ lost many mercs you can finally see that we are indeed pushing back.


First you were outnumbered, I know - but not this Week. You could have regained much more with Focus.

Edited by Joe Decker, 13 February 2015 - 03:54 AM.


#210 Koshirou

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:10 AM

View PostJoe Decker, on 13 February 2015 - 03:48 AM, said:

1. Yes, but not at this Timepoint.

Kurita seems to have decided otherwise.

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Furthermore it is thought as a Barricade for a Time when the Clans get close to their real Goal : Terra. You have to be aware that you can close it - yet that would mean you Guys have to carry the Defense of Terra alone then.

That makes absolutely no sense. All IS factions can defend against the Clans on any world. Marik does not need to occupy them.
The "island" can only ever be useful as a base for further attacks. And seeing as how "rogues and trolls" have been using it for that exact purpose against us, I personally would rather be safe than sorry and retake it to prevent a repeat.

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No, there is no Need to anymore - you also expanded far enough into Davion Space.

How many originally Davion planets has Kurita taken so far (and how does this stack up to Marik, btw)?

#211 hopterque

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:19 AM

View PostThomasMarik, on 13 February 2015 - 03:50 AM, said:

The Wormhole is about to be more than just an island. It's also a bullwark against the clans should they reach that far south. I don't see any need for it to 'close'




Ha Ha Ha, this is what Dear Coordinator would call "a bunch of bull dung". You don't need a buffer zone against the clans considering you can fight them wherever they attack. The only reason to keep the wormhole is so that marik can threaten us with punitive action whenever we do something they don't like.

#212 dervishx5

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:27 AM

Do you want a war?

#213 Der Hesse

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:31 AM

Do you search excuses to start one?

#214 dervishx5

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:32 AM

It seems kurita does.

#215 Der Hesse

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:35 AM

I dont think so....i think MS wants us to react exactly like this....don´t do them the favor.

#216 Time Bandit

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:35 AM

Not speaking for the High Council here, but: it was previously agreed to close the wormhole. Now that we rejected the Star League, Marik loyalists are attacking more of the wormhole adjacent worlds.

Now really, who is trying to start a war?

#217 dervishx5

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:40 AM

Kurita, by calling us evil warmongering masterminds.

If it doesn't stop I will be forced to feed dear coordinator's daughter to sharks with laser beams on their heads.

Edited by dervishx5, 13 February 2015 - 04:41 AM.


#218 Der Hesse

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:42 AM

Fighting a war over words (may they be spoken or not) never is a good choice.

#219 Kjudoon

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:49 AM

Oy vey!


Edited by Kjudoon, 13 February 2015 - 04:51 AM.


#220 Der Hesse

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:53 AM

How about sharks with bees in their mouths and when they open their mouths they shoot bees at you. ^^





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