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[Scoops Kerensky]

pbiggz, on 13 February 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

We love you, keep doing what you're doing, dont ever change.

I refuse to ever moderate my members posts. We are all adults here and can speak for ourselves, the only ones that are policing these boards are PGI's team and the ToS in our collective opinion.

[hopterque]

I'm like the farthest thing from an adult imaginable, really, but yeah.

[RjBass3]

ThomasMarik, on 13 February 2015 - 08:24 AM, said:

Furthermore. Technically as a member of the nSL Davion is an ally. Kurita threatens said ally daily. The true irony is if they joined the nSL there would be permission to continue attacks since the overall goal would remain the defeat of the clans. Not to mention a process would be in place to deal with the Wormhole question. However as an outsider looking in Marik is forced to chose between the Star League and Kurita.

THIS ^^^

[Richter Kerensky]

Honorable Samurai didn't need permission to attack Clan Davion before and don't now either.

[RjBass3]

Richter B., on 13 February 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

Honorable Samurai didn't need permission to attack Clan Davion before and don't now either.

That is because Honorable Samurai have no honor.

[Musashi Alexander]

I suppose it's fair to say that at least we can all agree that CW, still only a few months old, has made things on MWO more interesting.

[Gas Guzzler]

Musashi Alexander, on 13 February 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

I suppose it's fair to say that at least we can all agree that CW, still only a few months old, has made things on MWO more interesting.

The politics here is unbelievable.

I don't understand how some have such a role playing drive to create an MWO UN. I mean really, lets play the game.

There is no reason why Marik and Steiner can't just tell each other they won't fight each other and will focus on the Clans. I also don't get the claims that HK is "letting" the clans invade. There are usually a ton of people flooding the attach queue for CSJ planets. They do have to win though... I have seen that planet go from 100% to less than 50% because CSJ floods the defense queue and apparently wrecks the merc units there. I solo dropped with one 10-11 man from a merc unit the other day while waiting for a spot with my team, and we got absolutely wrecked by CSJ. That has to change.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 13 February 2015 - 10:08 AM.

[Valar13]

Socop, on 13 February 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:

Quoted for truth. The NKVA forum game is only matched by the ingame performance they give me every night, but I alone actually make official statements for us. We ultimately consider Marik our friends and allies, and have worked with them in the past on experimenting with the wormhole. Open theater performances on the forum do not change our stance on any issue, only the DCMS high council's decisions.

And Socop, you're one of the people over there that I generally don't dislike, and really want to respect, but your people draw zero lines between good natured RP animosity and overt too-far maliciousness, and it speaks very poorly of everyone who tolerates it, because they are tacitly saying "this is how I wish to be represented."

The sad thing is, as much ill-will as I bear you guys at this point, I used to thoroughly enjoy the whole NKVA shtick.

I know, my words mean less than nothing. This is me trying to reach out in good faith, though. When you've been trying to show the ropes to 4 new players who just picked up the game, get a few matches wearing RRB tags against NKVA, the line-crossing trash talk ensues, and you look the next day and the unit roster has quietly decreased by 3, you start to wonder if certain elements are (perhaps unintentionally) creating a toxic environment for the inexperienced.

[dervishx5]

Need to change this before the mods yell at me again.

Edited by dervishx5, 13 February 2015 - 10:19 AM.

[RjBass3]

Valar13, on 13 February 2015 - 10:08 AM, said:

And Socop, you're one of the people over there that I generally don't dislike, and really want to respect, but your people draw zero lines between good natured RP animosity and overt too-far maliciousness, and it speaks very poorly of everyone who tolerates it, because they are tacitly saying "this is how I wish to be represented."

The sad thing is, as much ill-will as I bear you guys at this point, I used to thoroughly enjoy the whole NKVA shtick.

I know, my words mean less than nothing. This is me trying to reach out in good faith, though. When you've been trying to show the ropes to 4 new players who just picked up the game, get a few matches wearing RRB tags against NKVA, the line-crossing trash talk ensues, and you look the next day and the unit roster has quietly decreased by 3, you start to wonder if certain elements are (perhaps unintentionally) creating a toxic environment for the inexperienced.

Unfortunately you are saying the same thing that many of us have been saying for a bit now. It seems to have no effect. NKVA have turned into another one of the units that the MWO community agrees are just a bunch of skilled d-bags. Not every one of them mind you, but it only takes a few to make everybody look bad. It's unfortunate, that such a skilled unit has to resort to petty levels of communication. They would be so much more respected if that wasn't the case.

[Tasker]

RjBass3, on 13 February 2015 - 10:16 AM, said:

Unfortunately you are saying the same thing that many of us have been saying for a bit now. It seems to have no effect. NKVA have turned into another one of the units that the MWO community agrees are just a bunch of skilled d-bags. Not every one of them mind you, but it only takes a few to make everybody look bad. It's unfortunate, that such a skilled unit has to resort to petty levels of communication. They would be so much more respected if that wasn't the case.

Ha ha ha ha. Die, clanner dog. We see you soon on Kentares IV.

[YCSLiesmith]

RjBass3, on 13 February 2015 - 10:16 AM, said:

Unfortunately you are saying the same thing that many of us have been saying for a bit now. It seems to have no effect. NKVA have turned into another one of the units that the MWO community agrees are just a bunch of skilled d-bags. Not every one of them mind you, but it only takes a few to make everybody look bad. It's unfortunate, that such a skilled unit has to resort to petty levels of communication. They would be so much more respected if that wasn't the case.

No, it's definitely all of us.

[RjBass3]

Tasker, on 13 February 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

Ha ha ha ha. Die, clanner dog. We see you soon on Kentares IV.

Kentares IV it is then. See ya soon.

[Musashi Alexander]

Gas Guzzler, on 13 February 2015 - 10:08 AM, said:

The politics here is unbelievable.

I don't understand how some have such a role playing drive to create an MWO UN. I mean really, lets play the game.

There is no reason why Marik and Steiner can't just tell each other they won't fight each other and will focus on the Clans. I also don't get the claims that HK is "letting" the clans invade. There are usually a ton of people flooding the attach queue for CSJ planets. They do have to win though... I have seen that planet go from 100% to less than 50% because CSJ floods the defense queue and apparently wrecks the merc units there. I solo dropped with one 10-11 man from a merc unit the other day while waiting for a spot with my team, and we got absolutely wrecked by CSJ. That has to change.

Sure, I understand some of what I read is over the top, irrational and peurile, but in the main, this burbling murmur of political upheaval provides a context for and gives meaning to the fighting. That's the way I see it anyway. Many of us did the 'let's just fight' for 2+ years before CW - so it makes a nice change that what we do, who we fight and how well we do it matters beyond the confines of a 5-6 minute match.

[Valar13]

Well, I tried. Just remember next time it's Kurita'a turn to get punched in the balls that the lack of anyone willing to help is your own damn doing.

Edited by Valar13, 13 February 2015 - 10:26 AM.

[MischiefSC]

NKVA represents Kurita in every way as much as any other Kurita player. Thus far their outspoken positions ahead of any vote have less politely mirrored the actual position taken by HK Council in however many weeks it takes them to say something.

You are the company you keep. It represents you, you represent it. To deny that is inherently dishonest.

[Davers]

ThomasMarik, on 13 February 2015 - 08:24 AM, said:

Furthermore. Technically as a member of the nSL Davion is an ally.

I cannot think of anything worse than being burdened by "allies" like Davion and Steiner.

If Marik chose to fight Kurita for the Wormhole, then let's not muddy the waters with comments like "Kurita's lack of commitment to fighting the Clans" or "It's not about the nSL. Oh by the way, the nSL means Kurita is attacking our ally Davion".

I honestly thought we had more respect for our erstwhile allies than to bandy about forum posts like these.

[Gas Guzzler]

Musashi Alexander, on 13 February 2015 - 10:23 AM, said:

Sure, I understand some of what I read is over the top, irrational and peurile, but in the main, this burbling murmur of political upheaval provides a context for and gives meaning to the fighting. That's the way I see it anyway. Many of us did the 'let's just fight' for 2+ years before CW - so it makes a nice change that what we do, who we fight and how well we do it matters beyond the confines of a 5-6 minute match.

Fine.


Die miserable fed rats, and pink pigeons too if you choose to stand against us. Your miserable forces will bow to the power of the Dragon.

[dervishx5]

Gas Guzzler, on 13 February 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

Fine.


Die miserable fed rats, and pink pigeons too if you choose to stand against us. Your miserable forces will bow to the power of the Dragon.

Ha ha ha ha

[Stealth Raptor]

Davers, on 13 February 2015 - 10:40 AM, said:

I cannot think of anything worse than being burdened by "allies" like Davion and Steiner.

If Marik chose to fight Kurita for the Wormhole, then let's not muddy the waters with comments like "Kurita's lack of commitment to fighting the Clans" or "It's not about the nSL. Oh by the way, the nSL means Kurita is attacking our ally Davion".

I honestly thought we had more respect for our erstwhile allies than to bandy about forum posts like these.

and that was really one of the major issues we had with it. we are trying to stuff a lot of people that have issues with each other into the same box and saying play nice. it is a powder keg ready to blow, and it shows by the severe difference of opinion in the liao and marik ranks over this. unfortunately this is just a game so the threat of the clans isnt serious enough or doesnt matter enough to people to put aside their differences yet.