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[lsp]

There was nothing wrong with it in the first place. What was wrong is what has always been wrong with this game, cry babies. They have ruined and sucked the fun out of everything that was worth while in this game. They won't be happy until every mech and weapon is exactly the same but with a different skin.
Collisions? gone. Repair and rearm? gone. boating weapons? ghost heat, gone. multiple mechs and weapons nerfed into uselessness, GR, streaks, ppcs etc. JJ's? nerfed into uslessness. Poptarting? nope, gone. Highlanders, worthless, gone. Mechwarrior 4 is a better game.

Edited by lsp, 12 February 2015 - 04:00 PM.

[Roadkill]

Dulahan, on 12 February 2015 - 02:29 PM, said:

Yawn, not really. Anyone who did a 2 ERPPC build instead of a 3 ERPPC build isn't going to be hit too hard by this change to the heat. And the velocity increase just made it a more terrifying sniper at range.

Yep.

I didn't think it was too powerful before, though. Then again I don't play CW so never encounter them en masse. The 9S just isn't awe inspiring by itself... it's just another Mech. Good, yes, but it's not a TW or SC.

Oh... I don't play them. I play against them. I do have one which this change should only make better (2 x ERPPC + 2 x AC/5), but IIRC I haven't played it since the stats reset.

[Konphujun]

2x ERPPC, 4x ML, 2x MG. Same thing I've always ran and will continue to run to keep making the clanners cry that their P2W chariots aren't strong enough.

My Timber Wolves and Stormcrows will continue to gather dust in the face of my TDRs and Hunchies.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Apostal Sinclair, on 12 February 2015 - 03:36 PM, said:

As many have said the Thunderbolt will evolve... meta ALWAYS evolves!

[GenghisJr]

So I picked up the 9S when it was given out but never really bothered with it, then the quirks came out and I thought....PLASMA CANNON!! and I bought 2 more TDR's so I could master the TDR PLASMA CANNON as fast as possible because having used it and been on the receiving end of it I knew it wouldnt last. Seriously, 3ER PPC's being able to sustain fire was ridiculous. But thanks for making me work on the chassis, I discovered the 9SE is one of the most fun mechs there is

[Hukkama]

Oh great. Ultimatum x is going to have a **** fit about clans op this clans op that now

[Brody319]

Hukkama, on 12 February 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

Oh great. Ultimatum x is going to have a **** fit about clans op this clans op that now

he is gonna throw a **** fit regardless.
he is just whiny.

[Ultimax]

Hukkama, on 12 February 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

Oh great. Ultimatum x is going to have a **** fit about clans op this clans op that now

I own all the clan mechs dude. I'll just continue to play them instead.

That's what I was doing in the solo and group already anyway.

[Kenyon Burguess]

pretty sure everyone but the most delusional saw that change coming. thud is still a good sniper and that increase in speed is going to make dodging at 400-600m more difficult. I didn't see any changes to clan mechs yet? anyone know if those are coming too?

[Hukkama]

Ultimatum X, on 12 February 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

I own all the clan mechs dude. I'll just continue to play them instead.

That's what I was doing in the solo and group already anyway.

im surprised you have time to play with all the crying you do on the forums

[Tarogato]

No complaints about the 9S changes.

ER PPC Heat Generation quirk reduced by half.
ER PPC Velocity quirk doubled.

Perfectly fine with that, it's quite in line with what the quirks should have been in the first place.

What I'm actually upset about is the changes to the Wuborine and Trebuchets and Locusts. Especially because both the TBT 3C and 7M had the same LRM15 quirks. I sold the 3C just last week and kept the 7M for whenever I need an LRM boat. Now they removed the quirks from the 7M and gave them to the mech I just sold, which is also the most expensive variant of the chassis. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[PauloBR]

I don't think people should complain about it..

If it's role is be a sniper with ER PPCs then it's fine!
Because you got more velocity now.

If you have heat problems in a sniper mech, you are doing it wrong (ER PPC is not a brawling weapon).

Edited by PauloBR, 12 February 2015 - 04:56 PM.

[Ultimax]

Hukkama, on 12 February 2015 - 04:50 PM, said:

im surprised you have time to play with all the crying you do on the forums

And I'm surprised you can type on a keyboard from that bridge you live under.

[Yokaiko]

Konphujun, on 12 February 2015 - 04:30 PM, said:

2x ERPPC, 4x ML, 2x MG. Same thing I've always ran and will continue to run to keep making the clanners cry that their P2W chariots aren't strong enough.

My Timber Wolves and Stormcrows will continue to gather dust in the face of my TDRs and Hunchies.

You know all of the wave one mechs are out for C-bills, and have been for a while now.

[Andi Nagasia]

TDR- 9S...................................Old(Now)........New(17th)
Additional Structure (LT&RT)....+15.0...............+15..........Same
ER-PPC Heat Gen....................-25.0%.............-12.5%.....12.5%Nerf
Energy Weapon Heat Gen.......-25.0%..............-12.5%.....12.5%Nerf
ER-PPC Cooldown...................+12.5%.............+12.5%.....Same
Energy Weapon Cooldown.......+12.5%.............+12.5%.....Same
ER-PPC Velocity.......................+15.0%.............+30.0%.....15%Buff
Laser Duration.........................-15.0%..............-15.0%......Same
Missile Weapon Cooldown........0......................+15.0%......15%Buff
so all in all the TDR-9S got Two 12.5%Nerfs, and two 15%Buffs,
making it a bit less spammy and a bit more diverse, that seems like a positive change,

[Doc Sav]

Seems a decent compromise. Can't shoot as much, but the shots are potentially far more effective. I really don't have a dog in this fight, but I certainly wouldn't say the TDR has now lost all of it's virtues.

[Hukkama]

Ultimatum X, on 12 February 2015 - 04:56 PM, said:

And I'm surprised you can type on a keyboard from that bridge you live under.

I laughed thanks. Also does a phone keyboard count? Easy to use under my suspension bridge

[Brody319]

Konphujun, on 12 February 2015 - 04:30 PM, said:

2x ERPPC, 4x ML, 2x MG. Same thing I've always ran and will continue to run to keep making the clanners cry that their P2W chariots aren't strong enough.

My Timber Wolves and Stormcrows will continue to gather dust in the face of my TDRs and Hunchies.

I don't think you understand how P2W works.

P2W requires people to pay real money. The clan wave 1 and the koshi are already released for c-bills and thus is not P2W.

[Walluh]

Oh dear time to go back to CLANS OP! all day

[Mister Blastman]

Deathlike, on 12 February 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

I'd still think PGI won't help your Summoner in any meaningful way in a while just as a sneaky retort.

But but... I want teh Summoner fixed too.

*sniff sniff*