215 replies to this topic

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

I'm just sad my Wubverine got caught in the collateral.

[Vandul]

Im going to miss clanners crying about Thunderbolts. I wonder what they will choose next?

[Bishop Steiner]

LordKnightFandragon, on 12 February 2015 - 07:05 PM, said:

Actually, just lower the heat cap would be good. We have plenty of dissipation.




Why hasnt the AWS gotten any quirks? It was the other iS mech I woulda wanted todrive until I read how much it sucked.

AWS, ZEU, DRG, CNT, the 4 IS mechs I wanted to drive way back when I first heard about this game in 09 haha.

that is a "sneak peak" dude, not the full list.

[Lightfoot]

And what about the AWS-9M Stock Awesome which has never worked in MWO due to DHS 1.4 nerfing and, of course, ghost heat nerf.

[Bishop Steiner]

Xetelian, on 12 February 2015 - 07:45 PM, said:

Here's to hoping they rebalance the PPCs.

that will likely be about as pretty as "bringing balance to the force".

[Spheroid]

@Vandul: Firerstarter light rush on invasion.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 02:14 PM, said:

From Quirks Sneak Peak:
TDR-9S
Specialty
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +15
ER-PPC Heat Gen -12.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen -12.5%
ER-PPC Cooldown +12.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
ER-PPC Velocity +30%
Laser Duration -15%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +15%

vs the current:
ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE (LT): 15.00
ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE (RT): 15.00
ER PPC HEAT GENERATION: -25.00 %
ENERGY HEAT GENERATION: -25.00 %
ER PPC COOLDOWN: 12.50 %
ENERGY COOLDOWN: 12.50 %
ER PPC VELOCITY: 15.00 %
LASER DURATION: -15.00 %

Well, there goes half your cooling.... bye bye spam!

But nice consolation of increasing the velocity.

Shame they can't just fix the PPC velocity to start with, and thus not need uber stupid level quirks to make them "viable".


Still kiddies, might want to vent your rage this weekend, because tuesday come, y'all are gonna need a new toy!

LOL.

damn I just bought one too. Oh well

BTW, gloating really makes you look good.

[Lightfoot]

oh, I didn't run a 9S anyway, except to test it, so more sauce for the goose.

[Bishop Steiner]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 12 February 2015 - 07:45 PM, said:

I'm just sad my Wubverine got caught in the collateral.

7K will likely replace it.

I'm sure my HBKs, CN9s and even VNDs all got reduced. (Honestly, while I don't think anyone could call the HBKs and CN9s OP, I also could see them lose a little of their %s, but hoping the VND didn't....it was already largely under performing anyhow)

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

CygnusX7, on 12 February 2015 - 02:23 PM, said:

Makes me wonder why PGI seems to take things so far the first time and then reels it back in.

Because they dont know how to do anything but balance by knee jerk

[Kaeb Odellas]

I was hoping for a 15% + 15% heat reduction. It would then have the same heat as an unquirked standard PPC, which isn't unreasonable.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 12 February 2015 - 07:57 PM, said:

damn I just bought one too. Oh well

BTW, gloating really makes you look good.

Well, you would be an authority, so I will take that under advisement.

Kaeb Odellas, on 12 February 2015 - 07:59 PM, said:

I was hoping for a 15% + 15% heat reduction. It would then have the same heat as an unquirked standard PPC, which isn't unreasonable.

1.25 ht more, for no min range, and better velocity and better long range seems a pretty fair trade off.

[Brody319]

I love all the people acting like its been nothing but clanners complaining about the 9S.
because every time I went into those threads, it was both IS and Clan players complaining about the 9S and the people defending it were whining about the clans.

[Black Arachne]

All they had to do was give those buffs to all the other PPC platform mechs but it seems PGI feels it was unbalanced when at first they thought it was fine.

[Bishop Steiner]

Black Arachne, on 12 February 2015 - 08:06 PM, said:

All they had to do was give those buffs to all the other PPC platform mechs but it seems PGI feels it was unbalanced when at first they thought it was fine.

Yes. Because increasing PPC spam across the board is the ideal way to try to fix the TTK issue.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 07:58 PM, said:

7K will likely replace it.

I'm sure my HBKs, CN9s and even VNDs all got reduced. (Honestly, while I don't think anyone could call the HBKs and CN9s OP, I also could see them lose a little of their %s, but hoping the VND didn't....it was already largely under performing anyhow)

Goddammit. I sold that sonuvabitch Tuesday.

I wish my Cent-AL still had the LPL quirks.

[Bishop Steiner]

Brody319, on 12 February 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

I love all the people acting like its been nothing but clanners complaining about the 9S.
because every time I went into those threads, it was both IS and Clan players complaining about the 9S and the people defending it were whining about the clans.

You will notice that all those thread usually have the same half dozen or so people constantly spamming the posts, too. Gotta wonder with Russ pulling a sea change like this, if PGIs numbers are telling them something that certain of our self proclaimed masters don't want to hear?

[Bishop Steiner]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 12 February 2015 - 08:09 PM, said:

Goddammit. I sold that sonuvabitch Tuesday.

I wish my Cent-AL still had the LPL quirks.

I feel ya. I'm taking my more or less usual (well,OK with the art stuff, I don't, lol) wait and see. For one thing, we also need to see what the Clans will be getting hit with, hopefully soon, to see what kind of balance there really is.

But when you have only a couple go to chassis for serious play, ALL running the same loadout, it says balance is still lacking.
Problem is much of the forums are even more"kneejerk" than they accuse Paul or Russ of being, and usually singularly incapable of taking a long view, showing patience, etc.

Anyhow, I'm on a lockdown for now...no selling mechs!

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 08:13 PM, said:

I feel ya. I'm taking my more or less usual (well,OK with the art stuff, I don't, lol) wait and see. For one thing, we also need to see what the Clans will be getting hit with, hopefully soon, to see what kind of balance there really is.

But when you have only a couple go to chassis for serious play, ALL running the same loadout, it says balance is still lacking.
Problem is much of the forums are even more"kneejerk" than they accuse Paul or Russ of being, and usually singularly incapable of taking a long view, showing patience, etc.

Anyhow, I'm on a lockdown for now...no selling mechs!

Im not liking the quirks honestly. It was a good idea gone bad. I still think the weapons need to be balanced better.

[Bishop Steiner]

WarHippy, on 12 February 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

Wow have you been butt hurt about this topic. You got your nerfs congrats, but I don't see the need to act like a child over it. That being said they basically are changing the quirks to what they were the first time when people were still saying the mech sucked hence it getting bumped to the somewhat over the top place it is now during that second wave of adjustments. Perhaps the velocity bonus will be enough to have more than a few people consider using it, but that seems unlikely given the past and the heat levels still making regular PPCs more enticing with these coming changes. Personally I would have gone with 35% maybe 40% total heat reduction as that would have the ERPPC still hotter than the regular PPC but close enough to make a good choice going with either.

sorry it offends you. Though if people can't take the relatively obvious tongue and cheek nature of it, well, don't know what to tell you.


The ER PPC is about 1.25 pts hotter than the normal PPC for those. So looks like that goal is met. For no minimum range, better long range, better velocity. Now, LOTS better velocity, which is better overall...for what the Comp Overlords claimed it was being used for. The only place it hurts them is up close and personal.... the place they claimed it wasn't good anyhow, in their arguments for it not being OP.