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[StraferX]

Send me your weak, send me your weary, send me your tired old un buffed, rebuffed over nerfed mechs and I will strip each one down and train it in the proper ways of the force. When you mech comes back to roost it WILL have a whole new attitude and will never need buffs, quirks or modules again as the power comes from with in and we will unlock that power.

ZEN MECH TRAINING SKEWL: by STRAFERX

I strongly support the following:

Hardcore mode ~ no mods no quirks
Modding ~ community fabricated maps, game modes and established retooled mechs and personally modded UI as well as free candy corn for everyone.


P.S. Each mech sent to my school will come home with a unique one time only custom Hood Ornament only available through our shop and all warhorns will be increased +25Db and externally mounted.

[DONTOR]

Monkey Lover, on 18 February 2015 - 11:28 AM, said:

Ya i play with the best mechs i can and i do better

I'm sure you think you can!

[Beik Ross Norst]

lsp, on 18 February 2015 - 09:18 AM, said:

And you're probably the same mediocore casuals who play other games and never play the end game. Like people in mmo's who never successful complete 25man raids, or herioc raids. Or play EVE but never leave highsec, never do incursions. Your post confirms that you're a casual who probably only plays in pug games. Otherwise you would be min/max and follow the meta, because no real unit would let you play in "anything".

why hate on casuals?

[Alaskan Nobody]

Metus regem, on 18 February 2015 - 10:38 AM, said:

It's 'cause the Locust is "F***ing awesome!"

All joking aside, they do take more skill to use right, then just about any other mech in the game, I also highly recommend them, as good training mechs for piloting, they teach you how not to get hit. Right along with Dragons, that teach you how to avoid damage as well, and well Cents for teaching you how to roll damage like a boss.

I am saving that for use in the new player recommendations!

Beik Ross Norst, on 18 February 2015 - 12:25 PM, said:

why hate on casuals?

Because they hurt his E-Peen

[Metus regem]

cSand, on 18 February 2015 - 11:51 AM, said:

Lol, yea it was more like
"Ok, you can stay up and watch 1 MORE MATCH"



all in good time sir!

Sometimes my Toddler sits in my lap when I play MWO, if you see me in a Summoner, then my Toddler is with me, he freaking loves those... Must be something to do with his name...

"Dis one Daaaa! Dis one!" he'll scream at the mech lab screen, when ever he sees it, pointing at the Summoner Prime...

Ahh well he's almost 2, and it's worth 5 min of pain to see him smile.

[cSand]

Metus regem, on 18 February 2015 - 12:42 PM, said:

Sometimes my Toddler sits in my lap when I play MWO, if you see me in a Summoner, then my Toddler is with me, he freaking loves those... Must be something to do with his name...

"Dis one Daaaa! Dis one!" he'll scream at the mech lab screen, when ever he sees it, pointing at the Summoner Prime...

Ahh well he's almost 2, and it's worth 5 min of pain to see him smile.

The things we do for the kids eh

[Metus regem]

cSand, on 18 February 2015 - 12:48 PM, said:

The things we do for the kids eh

Tell me about it, sicne the first time I held him in the hospital after he was born, I knew there wasn't anything I wouldn't try and do for him.

He's made me a stronger and tougher man for it.... though my knees dissagree with that statement.

[Huginmunin]

cSand, on 18 February 2015 - 10:19 AM, said:

Well if you were playing them before with no problems,

you can still play them now. You still have a net gain of bonuses here.

Do what you want! Take some pride in yourself and have some faith in your abilities!

Sure, but why is PGI (effectively) discouraging underplayed mechs/configs? And what happens to player engagement when they spend a lot of time/money on certain mechs or things like range/cooldown boosters and then have all that stuff arbitrarily become useless? I'm fairly sure PGI isn't going to give me a refund or let me trade in my pulse laser equipment for large laser stuff.

There's a mode in League of Legends called ARAM, in which you don't pick your character, it's chosen randomly by the computer. And that's fine (ARAM is considered a casual beer and pretzels mode, not seriously competitive). But for a game like MWO, where it takes so much time and effort to get all your gear lined up in a row (ugh, buying three Battlemasters just to finish skilling up one of them, etc), I'd prefer a bit more stability (especially given all the other issues PGI could fairly be concentrating on. Out of Match UI remains horrible, we need more maps, we need better gameplay modes, we need lots of bugs squashed, VOIP took forever and come out the gate with quality issues, etc etc). I'd think PGI had much bigger fish to fry than killing Thunderbolts and Blackjacks.

[Davers]

Metus regem, on 18 February 2015 - 12:42 PM, said:

Sometimes my Toddler sits in my lap when I play MWO, if you see me in a Summoner, then my Toddler is with me, he freaking loves those... Must be something to do with his name...

"Dis one Daaaa! Dis one!" he'll scream at the mech lab screen, when ever he sees it, pointing at the Summoner Prime...

Ahh well he's almost 2, and it's worth 5 min of pain to see him smile.

If you are implying you named your kid Summoner Prime, then you have won the internet today.

[Metus regem]

Davers, on 18 February 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

If you are implying you named your kid Summoner Prime, then you have won the internet today.

Nope, Aidan.

[Roadkill]

cSand, on 18 February 2015 - 11:27 AM, said:

yes but we all know that online games, especially of this variety are constantly changing, even high budget MMOs ala WoW

I think you're missing the point.

Yes, online games change constantly and that's to be expected.

However, over-buffing a Mech with a quirk that everyone and their dog says is overpowered, then letting that stand for a few weeks and claiming that nah brah, it's fine, we're keeping it this way, then turning around and admitting that - GASP! - no really everyone's dogs were right it's overpowered, and then changing it to something completely different now that people have already bought the Mechs isn't just "normal change for an online game."

That's bait and switch. PGI is perilously close to, if not already over, that line.

The problem comes from quirks that aren't actually appropriate for a particular chassis/variant. Those are the ones that they later have to go back and radically alter. If it were my job, I could easily go through the quirks and tell you which ones are out of character for a given chassis/variant so that the "... and switch" part wouldn't be necessary. If the quirks assigned to a particular chassis/variant were appropriate from the start, simple tuning would allow them to be brought into balance.

TL;DR Tuning is fine; bait and switch is not.

[Burktross]

I miss my locust small laser range.

[Metus regem]

I should add, that I wanted to call him Thor, but the wife wouldn't let me....

[Alaskan Nobody]

Metus regem, on 18 February 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

I should add, that I wanted to call him Thor, but the wife wouldn't let me....

Wise woman.

Life is hard enough without gettin bullied in school over a name like that.

Spoiler

If you really wanted to be that rough on your kid - you need to name him Sue

[Metus regem]

Shar Wolf, on 18 February 2015 - 02:09 PM, said:

Wise woman.

Life is hard enough without gettin bullied in school over a name like that.

Spoiler

If you really wanted to be that rough on your kid - you need to name him Sue

Well from what I've seen him do so far, I think that would happen once, then he'd knock the other kid out... He's 3 feet tall (35.5" to be right on the money), and almost 35lb. When a new 4L jug of milk comes in the house, the first place I look for it is in his hands as he is walking away with it.

[oldradagast]

cSand, on 18 February 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

The tears of those who rely on quirk-only builds since the last patch are priceless

PRICELESS

While I'm not a fan of building min-max "meta of the week" nonsense (heck, I pilot Awesomes, so how serious can I be?), randomly changing quirks all over the place hoses far more people than just the ones piling up ERPPC's on their Thuds. The new quirks also seem to have done a decent job kicking some 2nd-tier mechs back into the trash can, which is not an achievement. Just some points to keep in mind.

Roadkill, on 18 February 2015 - 02:02 PM, said:

I think you're missing the point.

Yes, online games change constantly and that's to be expected.

However, over-buffing a Mech with a quirk that everyone and their dog says is overpowered, then letting that stand for a few weeks and claiming that nah brah, it's fine, we're keeping it this way, then turning around and admitting that - GASP! - no really everyone's dogs were right it's overpowered, and then changing it to something completely different now that people have already bought the Mechs isn't just "normal change for an online game."

That's bait and switch. PGI is perilously close to, if not already over, that line.

This is also from the same company that held a big weapon module sale a week or so before changing many quirks... thus resulting in plenty of people spending piles of cbills on weapon modules that no longer interact as expected with their mechs. Tweaking quirks is one thing, but changing them completely is close to "bait and switch."

Edited by oldradagast, 18 February 2015 - 03:43 PM.

[Creovex]

Metus regem, on 18 February 2015 - 12:50 PM, said:

Tell me about it, sicne the first time I held him in the hospital after he was born, I knew there wasn't anything I wouldn't try and do for him.

He's made me a stronger and tougher man for it.... though my knees dissagree with that statement.

If you ever wonder why some of my mechs troll around in very girly colors, it's because my daughters usually select the color patterns for all my mechs. haha

Edited by Creovex, 18 February 2015 - 03:47 PM.

[3xnihilo]

Trying . . . Not to . . . Derail thread . . . Into dad brags. . . Aaaarrrgggghhhh. . .

My three year old yelled very proudly from the back seat of he minivan the other day, " I'm Spider Mech Man!" Spiders are his favorite mechs and the 'mandos too (might take after his father). And I guess he was watching his siblings play Spider-Man on the Xbox and in his mind they all fit together nicely

[Mercules]

lsp, on 18 February 2015 - 09:18 AM, said:

Otherwise you would be min/max and follow the meta, because no real unit would let you play in "anything".

[cSand]

3xnihilo, on 18 February 2015 - 04:17 PM, said:

Trying . . . Not to . . . Derail thread . . . Into dad brags. . . Aaaarrrgggghhhh. . .

My three year old yelled very proudly from the back seat of he minivan the other day, " I'm Spider Mech Man!" Spiders are his favorite mechs and the 'mandos too (might take after his father). And I guess he was watching his siblings play Spider-Man on the Xbox and in his mind they all fit together nicely

No no, please go right ahead and derail it.

I assure you the OP won't mind