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[Roadbeer]

Abivard, on 24 February 2015 - 03:56 PM, said:

Road beer, take your own advice, child.

1/10 wouldn't read again

[Abivard]

Roadbeer, on 24 February 2015 - 03:56 PM, said:

1/10 wouldn't read again

Did you mean to say 1/10th of the total trash posts on the MWO forums would not be here if you did not post?

That is what the vast majority of people would call a very good thing.

[Vlad Ward]

Roadbeer, on 24 February 2015 - 03:51 PM, said:

There was no context in that leak, Puddin'

Like the 6 pages in the thread where it was roundly decided that it was a bad idea. And that the DoW was typed up by one person, against the advice of many members of command.

Please, honey, you were doing so well when you weren't posting and FRR was reaping the benefits by getting defenders. Do your house a favor and stay off the forums.

The moment when a member of Marik High Command started making thinly veiled threats to pull support from yet another Northern House.

Edited by Vlad Ward, 24 February 2015 - 04:14 PM.

[Tesunie]

Abivard, on 24 February 2015 - 03:41 PM, said:

Meanwhile it's ignores the Northern Partner in the nSL, claims it is already doomed and therefore it is futile to drop in defense against clan attacks so its strength is better spent fighting Kurita in order to somehow defeat the clans by that route.

Why do you think we mercs went over to you? We saw your need. We came to help.

Right now though, there seems to be too much activity in everyone's back yards. There is a reason I wish for any more aggression between the Houses to stop. If that stopped, we could send more help, instead of having to recall it back every time we do...

[Roadbeer]

Vlad Ward, on 24 February 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

The moment when a member of Marik High Command started making thinly veiled threats to pull support from yet another Northern House.

Spoken like a Clan instigator.

Just making a comment that a lot of people are more willing to help the FRR when Abivard isn't posting. Hell, even members of the FRR have followed up his posts by saying "Don't listen to this guy"

Abivard, on 24 February 2015 - 04:12 PM, said:

Did you mean to say 1/10th of the total trash posts on the MWO forums would not be here if you did not post?

That is what the vast majority of people would call a very good thing.

[Vlad Ward]

Roadbeer, on 24 February 2015 - 04:17 PM, said:

Just making a comment that a lot of people are more willing to help the FRR when Abivard isn't posting. Hell, even members of the FRR have followed up his posts by saying "Don't listen to this guy"

Ah, yes. How dare he express a contrary opinion on the interweb. It is only natural that people would take offense to this daring breach of party-line hivespeak protocol. We can't possibly fight Clanners together if we don't agree on absolutely everything.

[Roadbeer]

Vlad Ward, on 24 February 2015 - 04:21 PM, said:

Clan Propaganda

The shilling for CSJ is strong in this one.

[Vlad Ward]

Roadbeer, on 24 February 2015 - 04:22 PM, said:

The shilling for CSJ is strong in this one.

I love CSJ. They're a bunch of really cool dudes. It is my Clan-of-Choice when I feel like running Clan Mechs.

[Roadbeer]

Vlad Ward, on 24 February 2015 - 04:25 PM, said:

I love CSJ. They're a bunch of really cool dudes. It is my Clan-of-Choice when I feel like running Clan Mechs.

CSJ infiltration of HK confirmed.

[Abivard]

How small of a person does one have to be that when they are caught in a baldfaced trash talking lie that they threaten to form an alliance of all the houses and clans to crush the faction that poster belongs to?

I suppose that poster could just accept the ill crouched Worship of the petty one while ignoring its actual words, just like we ignore the sights and sounds of crows in the rubbish fields.

Or you could just poke it with a stick and watch the fun ensue as they frantically flap about over their refuse heap.

[Roadbeer]

Abivard, on 24 February 2015 - 04:37 PM, said:

[pbiggz]

Roadbeer, on 24 February 2015 - 04:25 PM, said:

CSJ infiltration of HK confirmed.

merc infiltration of csj confirmed

[Roadbeer]

pbiggz, on 24 February 2015 - 04:59 PM, said:

Clan sympathizing merc infiltration of csj confirmed

FTFY

[YCSLiesmith]

Tesunie, on 24 February 2015 - 02:58 PM, said:

Okay.

What has happened has happened.

Now, what do we do to continue from here? We can't change the past. We can only shape the future.

Here's where we go from here: davion invades and hopefully alienates steiner, causing a war between the two houses. Marik takes Davion's corridor to Kurita. Kurita proceeds to smash the **** out of davion and marik and anyone else who crosses us. We may or may not lose all our worlds due to being utterly outnumbered, but I guarantee we have more fun and talk more trash than anyone else in the game. then NKVA and the Remnant and NS and whoever else stands with kurita buys new mechs with all the millions of cbills from southern house clanner death.

[Tesunie]

YCSLiesmith, on 24 February 2015 - 05:05 PM, said:

Here's where we go from here: davion invades and hopefully alienates steiner, causing a war between the two houses. Marik takes Davion's corridor to Kurita.

Is this what you WANT though? That's the question. What do we want here? How would we go about getting it?

I thought people didn't really want a war, but each side is willing to follow through because... and reason.. and...


There was talk about trying to avoid this so we could all concentrate on the Clans, a target we all seem to agree needs to be taken on. So, are we all trying for this war, or are any of us willing to try and set these things aside and refocus on our intended targets?


So, my real question is as follows:

• What does Kurita want before they are willing to stop hostilities?
  
• What does Marik want from Kurita that would dampen their anger?
  
• What would Kurita have to do to make Marik "be happy" with Kurita again?
  
• What would Marik have to do to make Kurita "be happy" with Marik again?
  
• What can be done to help stop hostilities between Davion and Kurita?

Basically, what is each faction wanting to hear or have done before they will be happy with the other and work together again? Or are hostilities just unavoidable at this time? Does Kurita/Marik/Davion/etc really want this hostility, at the cost of more Clan progression?

[Monkey Lover]

Tesunie, on 24 February 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

Is this what you WANT though? That's the question. What do we want here? How would we go about getting it?

I thought people didn't really want a war, but each side is willing to follow through because... and reason.. and...


There was talk about trying to avoid this so we could all concentrate on the Clans, a target we all seem to agree needs to be taken on. So, are we all trying for this war, or are any of us willing to try and set these things aside and refocus on our intended targets?


So, my real question is as follows:

• What does Kurita want before they are willing to stop hostilities?
  
• What does Marik want from Kurita that would dampen their anger?
  
• What would Kurita have to do to make Marik "be happy" with Kurita again?
  
• What would Marik have to do to make Kurita "be happy" with Marik again?
  
• What can be done to help stop hostilities between Davion and Kurita?

Basically, what is each faction wanting to hear or have done before they will be happy with the other and work together again? Or are hostilities just unavoidable at this time? Does Kurita/Marik/Davion/etc really want this hostility, at the cost of more Clan progression?

My view

• What does Marik want from Kurita that would dampen their anger?

About 20 planets and an attack lane to the clans

• What would Kurita have to do to make Marik "be happy" with Kurita again?

5 gallon bucket full of red devil tears

[pwnface]

Tesunie, on 24 February 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

So, my real question is as follows:

• What does Kurita want before they are willing to stop hostilities?
  
• What does Marik want from Kurita that would dampen their anger?
  
• What would Kurita have to do to make Marik "be happy" with Kurita again?
  
• What would Marik have to do to make Kurita "be happy" with Marik again?
  
• What can be done to help stop hostilities between Davion and Kurita?

Basically, what is each faction wanting to hear or have done before they will be happy with the other and work together again? Or are hostilities just unavoidable at this time? Does Kurita/Marik/Davion/etc really want this hostility, at the cost of more Clan progression?

Kurita has already offered a ceasefire with Davion which was turned down. If Davion wants us to stop fighting them they need to reach out to us to ask for peace.

Currently Kurita has no borders with Marik and we have no reason to be concerned with them.

[Tesunie]

Monkey Lover, on 24 February 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

My view

• What does Marik want from Kurita that would dampen their anger?

About 20 planets and an attack lane to the clans

• What would Kurita have to do to make Marik "be happy" with Kurita again?

5 gallon bucket full of red devil tears

Well... asking for that attack lane is no longer reasonable without the Wormhole anymore. Before hand, sure, and then take the worlds back once we touch a clan world. Not possible any longer. So that request needs to drop, if you asked me.

[pwnface]

Monkey Lover, on 24 February 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

My view

• What does Marik want from Kurita that would dampen their anger?

About 20 planets and an attack lane to the clans

• What would Kurita have to do to make Marik "be happy" with Kurita again?

5 gallon bucket full of red devil tears

This just goes to show that Marik greed. We told you "No" and you tried to take it by force and failed miserably. Why should Kurita even consider giving Marik anything or make amends in any way? Marik attacked Kurita, let's not forget that please.

Edited by pwnface, 24 February 2015 - 05:49 PM.

[Davers]

Tesunie, on 24 February 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

Is this what you WANT though? That's the question. What do we want here? How would we go about getting it?

I thought people didn't really want a war, but each side is willing to follow through because... and reason.. and...


There was talk about trying to avoid this so we could all concentrate on the Clans, a target we all seem to agree needs to be taken on. So, are we all trying for this war, or are any of us willing to try and set these things aside and refocus on our intended targets?


So, my real question is as follows:

• What does Kurita want before they are willing to stop hostilities?
  
• What does Marik want from Kurita that would dampen their anger?
  
• What would Kurita have to do to make Marik "be happy" with Kurita again?
  
• What would Marik have to do to make Kurita "be happy" with Marik again?
  
• What can be done to help stop hostilities between Davion and Kurita?

Basically, what is each faction wanting to hear or have done before they will be happy with the other and work together again? Or are hostilities just unavoidable at this time? Does Kurita/Marik/Davion/etc really want this hostility, at the cost of more Clan progression?

The real question is, why do we keep asking these questions? We have a 58 page thread here, and several other threads, all asking these same questions.

People want to fight each other. It earns LP and Cbills. Not fighting earns no LP and no Cbills. Maybe one day PGI will make a game mode called Ceasefire that everyone just sits around and earns LP and Cbills for not playing the game.