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#601 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:02 PM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 19 February 2015 - 11:28 AM, said:

Last night I was playing for.fun and cbills. All I saw were jerks on the other team. Only the Templars were nice and fun to play with. As of now I wouldn't mind pushing you off the map.



Well, you guys decided to attack us, so of course we are going to tell you how the Dragon will crush you and put you in your place for deciding to try to teach us a lesson. Don't take it personally.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:02 PM

View PostProphetic, on 19 February 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

So only Roadbeer is going to acknowledge that there is a statement from Marik leadership out there?

My understanding is that it clearly states that Marik wants this war.
Someone man up and post it plz.

The Marik leadership tends to stay on the Free World's League Enjin forums

View PostThe Droid, on 19 February 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

Didn't most of the ex-marik mercs move to the FRR a while back? BWC and Seraphim did, right? Most of the mercs still in Kurita are relatively small individually and seem to enjoy it here.

Yeah we (Seraphim) were helping out Kurita for a week but as soon as we joined we were pretty much abandoned, so we left for Rasalhague.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:03 PM

View PostSquelches, on 19 February 2015 - 11:58 AM, said:



Ha ha ha you'll never even come close. You won't win a single match. We are emboldened by the love and light of Dear Coordinator; it is an impossibility for us to lose to incompetent fedrat shrews such as yourself.
Get this guy 5 pounds of space bacon fast he is delusional!!!!!

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:04 PM

View PostRapidFire7, on 19 February 2015 - 12:02 PM, said:



Yeah we (Seraphim) were helping out Kurita for a week but as soon as we joined we were pretty much abandoned, so we left for Rasalhague.



Abandoned? How so? I thought the Mercs were taking care of the Clan border? Did you sign up as mercs to work towards House Kurita's goals or do your own thing? If it is the latter then I don't know what to tell you... Don't expect to join HK and expect all the loyalists to just drop what they are doing and do what you want us to do.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:05 PM

View PostRoadbeer, on 19 February 2015 - 11:51 AM, said:

LOL,
Kurita temper tantrum continues


idk man, launching an unannounced faction-wide invasion to mark the end of a 3-month ceasefire because you don't like how a dozen or so guys post sounds a lot more like a temper tantrum to me.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:07 PM

Oh my God. The butthurt here reminds me of usenet

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:07 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 19 February 2015 - 12:02 PM, said:




Well, you guys decided to attack us, so of course we are going to tell you how the Dragon will crush you and put you in your place for deciding to try to teach us a lesson. Don't take it personally.
That wasn't the problem I had. That's all in good fun. Most of what I saw would get you banned if Pgi even cared hahA. It got worse when ever we would win. Sorry but you're not on the good guys side. I guess every game needs a bad guy sorry for you they never win.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:11 PM

View Postcranect, on 19 February 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

The Seraphim moved to the FRR on Friday after our contract with Kurita expired and we decided not to stay. I know that a problem some of us had was that on the clan border there would be support and then it would all just disappear after a point and then we would be outnumbered and all the work that had been accomplished would be reversed. Now if the overall queue numbers had disappeared it wouldnt have been all that bad because as much as we might like the game sadly real life comes first. The frustrating part was when we would consistently win in a 8-12 man group and the gains on the planet would still be reversed. Then when we would look at the queue it would seem like everyone who had been attacking the clans had decided to attack Davion instead. So while you did attack the clans it seemed like after you deemed it good enough you all went to fight Davion even though the number of Clan defenders had not decreased. Anyway that is just how it seemed to at least a few of us.


This sounds oddly framiliar, almost like the reason we gave for evading the Jags lol. Hey look at that, BWC came to the same view we had

Now the silly thing is there is a thread in the NS forums discussing our short term plan of action, one that BWC AND marik would like, and instead we are delayed by pissing around with a worm hole.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:12 PM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 19 February 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

That wasn't the problem I had. That's all in good fun. Most of what I saw would get you banned if Pgi even cared hahA. It got worse when ever we would win. Sorry but you're not on the good guys side. I guess every game needs a bad guy sorry for you they never win.


Bad guys win constantly son. Every single day. The only place they don't win are bad novels.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:12 PM

Facts
1)You voted to remove yourselves from the SLDF
2) You told everybody publicly that you would continue attacking Davion
3) You broke every agreement you had with Marik
4) When we tried to help u in your struggle against the clans by leaving your border alone for a 2 week period end of January beginning of February, at the request of 9th SD, you decided to repay us by attacking us with out provocation or warning and then NS and NKVA specifically decided to trash talk all Davion units and basically treat every one they came in contact with in a very unsportsmanlike manner..Including units that don't even speak back to you during game..You continue to do this to this day...
5) You have generally treated every unit, other than the house units, that have come to your space like inferior people and have treated your friends and enemies alike with disdain and condescending attitudes.
6) You have taken advantage of the fact that Davion population is low to force your way into Davion Space...Remember we tried working with you before our population went to crap...

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:12 PM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 19 February 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

That wasn't the problem I had. That's all in good fun. Most of what I saw would get you banned if Pgi even cared hahA. It got worse when ever we would win. Sorry but you're not on the good guys side. I guess every game needs a bad guy sorry for you they never win.


You attacked us. You are the bad guys. That's how it works. The Clans and the Davions are the bad guys too. Liao and Steiner are currently neutral/good guys. For now, that is what we have.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:12 PM

View PostRapidFire7, on 19 February 2015 - 12:02 PM, said:

The Marik leadership tends to stay on the Free World's League Enjin forums

Yeah we (Seraphim) were helping out Kurita for a week but as soon as we joined we were pretty much abandoned, so we left for Rasalhague.


Ok so this is just flat out incorrect.

Both Marik loyal merc units left as a result of HK not joining the nSL.
Statements were made before going to FRR. We were informed that certain merc units needed to support nSL members and would be leaving.

We understood this and went our separate ways.

This latest attack and informal declaration of War is a direct result of the same resentment involving HK not joining the nSL.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:13 PM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 19 February 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

It got worse when ever we would win.


So it never got worse? I'm not seeing what the problem is.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:15 PM

View Poststratagos, on 19 February 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

Oh my God. The butthurt here reminds me of usenet


Usenet! Oh the glory.

Alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk

Back when you actually knew all the trolls on the internet by name.

This is nothing. Standard fare. Group of people wanting to troll and not be called trolls and who take the forums and the game stupidly seriously then tell everyone not to take it seriously. Except that they're all bads for not taking winning at it seriously.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:20 PM

So unannounced, many Marik veterans were as surprised as you were.

Given, I come from a nation renowned for caution that borders on paranoia, but consider that it was outrageous enough that it inspired this thread filled with more vinegar than a forest-sized salad, catching the piled fuel like a munitions dump of trolling.

So there were sudden calls for Marik to go attack Kuritan worlds. Who did it? Why, given the Marik penchant for plans within plans would they instead fire up the guns when there was a clearly documentable chain of events that might have led to an attack, but was irrationally skipped in favor of going full derp? Juuuuuust as a major Marik player is getting back into the loop after being out for a critical week?

More incompetent attempts at "starting something" between two factions have been made in the past. This has too many blank spots to be anything but suspicious, and a derailment like this that caters both to the natural trollery of NKVA and the precise points to cause maximum butthurt in Marik has a very short list of who'd feel better about the entire affair.

Look at all this. Someone observed you both, found the weak points, and then pushed your buttons and nobody can say who actually started this in Marik, other than that they took advantage of the Marik penchant for herding up when someone says that something needs to be done. The responsible party(ies) are nowhere to be found.

I smell a rat.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:22 PM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 19 February 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

That wasn't the problem I had. That's all in good fun. Most of what I saw would get you banned if Pgi even cared hahA. It got worse when ever we would win. Sorry but you're not on the good guys side. I guess every game needs a bad guy sorry for you they never win.

If we're the bad guy, and the bad guy never wins, then why is Altiar the only marik planet left in the wormhole?

View PostProphetic, on 19 February 2015 - 12:12 PM, said:

Ok so this is just flat out incorrect.

Both Marik loyal merc units left as a result of HK not joining the nSL.
Statements were made before going to FRR. We were informed that certain merc units needed to support nSL members and would be leaving.

We understood this and went our separate ways.


This latest attack and informal declaration of War is a direct result of the same resentment involving HK not joining the nSL.

Wasn't part of HK's descion not to join the nSL to sidestep diplomatic blowouts like this happening on our end? Because if we did agree to join the nSL then all it would take would be a board 12-man or two to go bully the Davions and we would have been tossed out as soon as we were let in. Joining with the nSL would have meant making promises we know we couldn't keep. So we simply decided that keeping to ourselves was better for everyone rather than flat out lying to our prospective allies, correct?

Edited by IDG, 19 February 2015 - 12:24 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:23 PM

View Postwanderer, on 19 February 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

I smell a rat.


Valar13 surprising quiet today. Ha ha.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:23 PM

Quote

Alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk


alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die is superior, you Fedrat scum.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:25 PM

View PostUniquePilotName, on 19 February 2015 - 10:41 AM, said:




it is hilarious there is all this **** talking about superiority after Kurita got a surge of large merc groups due to their loyalty reward getting bumped up. you guys do realize roughly 90% of your recent success is from ex- marik and clan units right?


Please tell me more about how our daily 80 to 100 loyalist players in NA timezone doesn't matter.

Don't get me wrong we appreciate our mercs like CH, REM, Templars and PHL but to say that they contribute to 90% of our success is ridiculous.

Edited by pwnface, 19 February 2015 - 12:27 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:28 PM

View PostSteelWarrior, on 19 February 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

This sounds oddly framiliar, almost like the reason we gave for evading the Jags lol. Hey look at that, BWC came to the same view we had

Now the silly thing is there is a thread in the NS forums discussing our short term plan of action, one that BWC AND marik would like, and instead we are delayed by pissing around with a worm hole.

Oh yes I know that was the reasoning. It is perfectly sound as well. The problem is that you guys have the numbers to swamp them like they did to you now. The issue is instead of focusing the border it seemed like you would and then you would just leave and go to the other borders. That was the frustrating part. Not the fact that it was happening so much as it seemed like it was happening because you went to another border when we had been winning.

View PostProphetic, on 19 February 2015 - 12:12 PM, said:

Ok so this is just flat out incorrect.

Both Marik loyal merc units left as a result of HK not joining the nSL.
Statements were made before going to FRR. We were informed that certain merc units needed to support nSL members and would be leaving.

We understood this and went our separate ways.

This latest attack and informal declaration of War is a direct result of the same resentment involving HK not joining the nSL.


The Seraphim leaving had nothing to do with that. We decided to go because we felt it was making no impact. There was also some of the whole anti merc trolling or whatever in the forums that was aggrivating as well but I dont think that played as big of a part. I know some of us had a good time with you guys for the first few days of our contract. I know I had a good conversation or two with a Stealth Raptor (I think?). The problem is as the week went on and there was sucess on the clan border it seemed like you guys abandoned it. That may not be true but that is how it seemed. I know that played a huge part in why we personally left.





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