711 replies to this topic

[dragnier1]

SHADOW CAT!!!!!!!!!!!

Darn...i still have 15 free mech bays...decisions...

Hopefully i can decide by 27/28 Feb...

Edited by dragnier1, 20 February 2015 - 10:44 PM.

[Bloodweaver]

The Boneshaman, on 20 February 2015 - 08:36 PM, said:

don't know about the face on the executioner.... don't know if I like it or dislike it. but I think it can grow on me.

Pretty much how I feel about it, as it is right now. I do prefer the old, '80s MUR-DERP face which is both slightly amusing and terrifying at once. But this concept still works. And who knows, maybe the Prime (I) variant will be a stronger callback to the old face...

[The Red Priest]

I'm not going to give you any more money until you fix the MANY broken things in this game, PGI.

[DrRedCoat]

Seeing the Shadow Cat has greatly piqued my interest. I'm disappointed the faction content doesn't involve the second wave factions, though. I would like to slap Nova Cat paint jobs on that Shadow Cat.

[ilKhan_OrHan]

Alexander Garden, on 20 February 2015 - 04:12 PM, said:

Only with the non-Prime [I] Variants.

The Prime [I] Variants will have unique Patterns that cannot be changed.

The eventual MC/C-Bill Prime Variants, which won't be designated with an [I], will be able to use Patterns.

So you can't apply a camo to the Prime Variant in your mech pack because it is a Champion mech. But you can apply camo to the other 3 variants of the mech in the pack?

[jeht]

Hi PGI, the gifting for Wave 3 isn't implemented yet? https://mwomercs.com/gifts

Do you have an ETA on that?

[Thorn Hallis]

VoodooLou Kerensky, on 20 February 2015 - 02:30 PM, said:

Will the Cauldron Born beable to mount LBX 50 (Dual LBX 20's+LBX10)? If so I might have to rob someone to get this.

Sure, if you plan to go with not much ammo and/or armor.

[GonaDie]

OMG!OMG!OMG! HE SAID SHADOW CAT! SOMEBODY HOLD ME!!!!
*tears of joy*

[-Skyrider-]

So when can we see the rest of the concept art?

[Thanatos31]

Alex G.,

Will polygon invasion camo will be available for early adapters, like in the other waves or just the faction, un-editable camo patterns?


Also, Russ mentioned the Color channels being opened for customization on Faction camo; when will this be?


Thank you!

[Lsq78]

Arctic cheetah, Shadow cat and Cauldron born?...
In one package?...

There goes my money.
AGAIN.

(My evil imagination already conjured up a 13 SPL executioner. Combined with masc... Hmmmm)

Edited by Lsq78, 21 February 2015 - 01:25 AM.

[Thanatos31]

Cimarb, on 20 February 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

IS packs have mechs with XL engines and other "advanced tech" as well. Light mechs (regardless of pack) cost the exact same as Assault mechs (regardless of pack). Quit being so bullheaded and look at the actual facts of the pricing...please.

This!

The argument of "clan has everything that's why it's more pricy" doesn't work when the IS packs also have XL , DHS mechs.
It comes down to PGI knowing we will pay more, because we are so in love witht the game/faction; reminds me of medallions, that where sold for double the MC during a Sale. (1000mc instead of 500mc, and then ultimately sold for 750mc)

[KuroNyra]

To get or not to get the full package...
Hard question for me.
Especially since I am more looking at the Shadow Cat and the Ebon Jaguar.

[Lsq78]

Damn. Looking at the arctic cheetah, this thing is going to be the #1 clan competitive light mech, bar none. It looks on par with the IS lights ,with speed tweak.

[Tsuki Ookami vas Mugunghwa]

nice selection of mechs. viper would have been nice as well to get one for each tonnage. but Shadow cat with MASC is just too awesome.

on another note. could we please get the (L) mechs from 15 years event to be sellable now? with the early adopter incentive from wave 3, some players will get the Crab/atlas/cent pack a third or even a fourth time!

i know, i know, it's free and all. but having the very same mech 3 to 4 times without being able to sell it or otherwise filter it out of the mechlab screen is just... stupid.

[J Blue]

This looks very good indeed.
I'm more an IS'ler from the bottom of my heart but i MUST have the Shadow Cat!

Next IS pack maybe something like Phoenix MK II including the Marodeur or Warhammer? Because i think you did a great job with e.g the Battlemaster or the Shadow Hawk.

[Ryoken]

Shar Wolf, on 20 February 2015 - 08:15 PM, said:

Which Cbill variants?

The primes?

No special geometry mech gets any paint-scheme changes
So if those are what you are referring to - then no.
Those will not get the faction camo either (again - par for course)

PGI workers have several times said that it is in the plans for them to eventually get access to them
(In which case I would only assume retro-actively - if only because of how camo unlocks work)
But also that it would not be any time soon.

I am still confused as to why you are even asking this (assuming I am finally reading you right) as this has been talked about several times already (if not in this thread - every time a new package has been announced!)

Good mornin Shar Wolf,
yeah I just want to make people aware, that if they buy the packaged mechs they won't be able to put the advertised clan content camo on their packages special variants as well as they won't be able to put the polygone camo (also advertised for preorder wave II) on it. Or any other camo...

This is a ridiculous condition for a free to play title to forbid individualization to the paying customers!

Instead of creating more and more cockpit items and what not at least one person of the art team could start building filters to implement the exsisting camo patterns for all the c-bill bonus mechs.

Again OVER 90% of the players asked are annoyed by PGI's non-exsisting camo options on premium mechs!

We were told that hopefully some day wave 1&2 Invasion variants will get clan patterns. But it got silent again and even if it's there this is far from the great camo options available to standard mechs!

So to speed up the process maybe they can make a camo fund raiser for the different premium chassis?
http://mwomercs.com/...e__pid__4219846
Or at least make a on/off switch for special geometry in the time beeing so we can have individual camo patterns and c-bill bonus...

Again this is no rocket science! It's just one filter layer on their graphics or one switch for mech geometry that both allready exsist.

So a good start into the weekend mechwarriors! (ah coffee und mechforums ^.^ )

Edited by Ryoken, 21 February 2015 - 03:18 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

I would like to see some appreciation shown to the people that have put real life hard earned money into this game. I strongly feel that if you bought Waves I & II, you should get III at a discount. Call it a loyalist reward if you will.

[Demos]

Tsuki Ookami vas Mugunghwa, on 21 February 2015 - 01:39 AM, said:

on another note. could we please get the (L) mechs from 15 years event to be sellable now? with the early adopter incentive from wave 3, some players will get the Crab/atlas/cent pack a third or even a fourth time!

You don*t receive the (L) mechs for early adopter, IF you already bought a top-tier package.
So no third or fourth time...

Edited by Demos, 21 February 2015 - 02:41 AM.

[Reno Blade]

Some ppl asked about crazy loadouts (like LBX50 on EJ/CB)...

So I will quote the overview for free tonnage again before answering that.

Reno Blade, on 20 February 2015 - 03:45 PM, said:

Maybe these tonnage listings help people to decide:

from wave 1/2 :

Spoiler

Koshi 25t, 119kph, 6jj, 7.5t and 16 crits space (6tons with full armor)
75% ff armor and endo
10DHS

Kit fox 30t, 97kph, 16t and 25 crits space (14.5tons with full armor)
73% ff armor and endo
10DHS

Adder 35t, 97kph, 16t and 24 crits space (15.5tons with full armor)
96% ff armor and endo
10DHS


Fenris 45t, 129kph, 9.5t and 29 crits space (9tons with full armor)
94% ff armor and endo
12DHS

Nova 50t, 81kph, 16t and 30 crits space (15tons with full armor)
94% std armor and std structure
14DHS

Stormcrow/Ryoken 94kph, 23t and 29 crits (22.5tons with full armor)
98% ff armor and endo
10DHS


Vulture 60t, 84kph, 28t and 38crits space (26tons with full armor)
81%ff armor and std internal
12DHS

Hellbringer/loki 65t, 84kph, 28.5t and 43 crits space (23tons with full armor)
but only 60% std armor and std internal
13DHS

Summoner/Thor 70t, 84kph, 22.5t and 35 crits space (20.5tons with full armor)
83% ff armor and std internal
14DHS

Timberwolf/MadCat 75t, 84kph, 27.5t and 31 crits space (27tons with full armor)
99% ff armor and endo
15DHS


Manowar/Gargoyle 80t, 84kph, 21.5t and 36 crits space (19.5tons with full armor)
85% ff armor and std structure
16DHS

Warhawk 85t, 81kph, 32.5t and 26 crits space (32tons with full armor)
98% ff armor and std structure
20DHS

Direwolf 100t, 48kph, 50.5t and 41 crits space (50tons with full armor)
99% std armor and std structure
15DHS


Normalized to 16DHS and full armor these mechs have following free tonnages:
Stormcrow 16.5t
MadDog 22t
Hellbringer 20t
Summoner 18.5t
Timberwolf 26t
Gargoyle 19.5t

Now Wave3:
Hankyu/Arctic Cheetah 30t, 130kph, 9.5t and 21 crits space (8tons with full armor)
73% ff armor and endo
10DHS

Shadow Cat 45t, 97kph, 17t and 23 crits space (16tons with full armor)
87% ff armor and endo
10DHS

Cauldron Born/Ebon Jaguar 65tons, 81kph, 30t and 33 crits space (28.5tons with full armor)
86% ff armor and endo
13DHS

Executioner/Gladiator 95t, 64kph, 26.5t and 30 crits space (24.5tons with full armor)
88% ff armor and std structure
16DHS


Now if we normalize all clan mechs to 16DHS and full armor these mechs have following free tonnages:

Koshi 0t
Arctic Cheetah 2t
Kitfox 8.5t
Adder 9.5t

Fenris 5t
Shadow Cat 10t
Nova 13t
Stormcrow 16.5t

Hellbringer 20t
Summoner 18.5t
MadDog 22t
Ebon Jaguar 25.5t
Timberwolf 26t

Gargoyle 19.5t
Executioner 24.5t
Warhawk 36t (4t already used by the 20DHS)
Direwolf 49t

With around 30tons free (non-full armor) on the Ebon Jaguar/Cauldron Born, you can have 2x UAC20 for 12tons each = 24tons, add 6t ammo (21shots each) and thats it.
The problem with LBX20s are that they wont fit.
That mech has 2 ff slots on each arm and one slot in the RT and 2 in the LT used up already.
You can try 3x LBX10/UAC10 tho, if you remove 3 more tons of armor (3x 10tons and 3t ammo = 33tons)


That heavy will probably be the only/best clan heavy to use dual Gauss or tripple UAC5.
It has more tonnage than the MadDog C (dual Gauss) so you can pack more ammo or some backup laser.
The D variant comes with 2x UAC10, 2x ERML, 1x ERLL already which is quite good as a baseline for what fits in.