711 replies to this topic

[delushin]

*slams huge fist on table*

You will all get what you deserve, when you deserve it. What it is that you will get may not be what you think it should be, but when you receive it you will know what it was all along.

Reminds of something funny that I noticed at the local game shop the other day. I find it so funny now that standard editions of games are now called limited editions. The ones I love the most are the pre-order limited editions that are somewhat sold as being just that, in limited quantity unless you pre-order. Would that not be just be manufacture to order and there for unlimited dependent to demand?

What happened to the truly limited edition glory?

[RedDevil]

Wait, where's that picture from? LL or MWO?

[Uncle Totty]

reddevil, on 03 March 2015 - 05:55 PM, said:

Wait, where's that picture from? LL or MWO?

LL.

[Tikkamasala]

The Shadow Cat looks good so far:


Maybe we can get a larger image like the cauldron born?

[Ovion]

Tikkamasala, on 04 March 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

The Shadow Cat looks good so far:

Maybe we can get a larger image like the cauldron born?

Heh, I posted it in other places before the other art went up, forgot here. xD

Ovion, on 04 March 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:

Just noticed this hidden on the Wave 3 page:

[Twilight Fenrir]

I am super excited about this pack. Can't wait for my Ebon Jaguar and Shadowcat! The Jag looks gorgeous.... The Scat.... I dunno, it doezn't look like a Scat to me, but it still looks good... Minus the ridiculous fist... Seriously? What could that hand possibly be used for without lower arm actuators? But, I see it's there in the art on Sarna, so fair enough

This pack is almost perfectly my dream wave III setup! Never seen the Arctic Cheetah before, but looks like a great mech. Finally a fast clan light mech, with ECM to boot! I don't like the Executioner, the hardpoints just don't suit me... I'd rather have seen the Stone Rhino, but I know the Executioner is more popular.

[Cimarb]

I think more people would like the Stone Rhino, actually, but it is not an Omnimech, so not going to happen until PGI decides to start releasing Clan standard mechs.

[VoodooLou Kerensky]

Marauder IIC, on 03 March 2015 - 11:50 AM, said:

So i get a purble legendary founder? xD Was invited to beta looks good and i bought the founder. ^^

To be honest Marauder I think of it as more of a way for other players to recognize that the player, while not having paid to get into the Closed Beta Testing (which is really a Misnomer since PGI didnt, unlike other CBT's I participated in, didnt give us specific things to do and look for or provide a form to fill out after every testing session), was there to Test the game from the start. I wonder how many non-paying players did they have on the Secret Squirrel Test Server, which from what I understand was actually ran like the other CBT's I mentioned. (BTW I was in the CBT for MW3, MW3:Pirates Moon,Multiplayer Battle Tech:3025, MW4, MW4:Black Knight, MW4:Mercenaries all of which I didnt pay to get into unless you want to count the cost of paying a Notary Public to Notarize and FAX my signed NDA (non-disclosure agreement) and a copy of my ID.) Not everyone has disposable Income and just because someone paid or didnt pay, doesnt increase or decrease the validity of the fact that they were there from the Beginning. But people do tend to pay more attention to suggestions and directives to people with Founders Tags, whether or not they actually did testing. Its kinda like from the Days when you could Buy a Officers Commission, just because his families rich doesnt mean he knows which end of the gun the bullet comes out of.

[Corbenik]

Twilight Fenrir, on 04 March 2015 - 01:04 PM, said:

I am super excited about this pack. Can't wait for my Ebon Jaguar and Shadowcat! The Jag looks gorgeous.... The Scat.... I dunno, it doezn't look like a Scat to me, but it still looks good... Minus the ridiculous fist... Seriously? What could that hand possibly be used for without lower arm actuators? But, I see it's there in the art on Sarna, so fair enough

This pack is almost perfectly my dream wave III setup! Never seen the Arctic Cheetah before, but looks like a great mech. Finally a fast clan light mech, with ECM to boot! I don't like the Executioner, the hardpoints just don't suit me... I'd rather have seen the Stone Rhino, but I know the Executioner is more popular.

complaining about Sscats fist, man look at the stormcrow prime at least scats fist looks intimidating :X

[CyborgDragon]

Twilight Fenrir, on 04 March 2015 - 01:04 PM, said:

I am super excited about this pack. Can't wait for my Ebon Jaguar and Shadowcat! The Jag looks gorgeous.... The Scat.... I dunno, it doezn't look like a Scat to me, but it still looks good... Minus the ridiculous fist... Seriously? What could that hand possibly be used for without lower arm actuators? But, I see it's there in the art on Sarna, so fair enough

It's not just the simply for show, by default the Prime actually had a lower arm and hand actuator on its left arm
http://www.solaris7....nfo.asp?ID=2405
None of the other available configs used them stock, but I assume we'll be able to equip them if we want. You'll also be able to remove the Prime's hand if you really don't like it

[Twilight Fenrir]

Cimarb, on 04 March 2015 - 01:21 PM, said:

I think more people would like the Stone Rhino, actually, but it is not an Omnimech, so not going to happen until PGI decides to start releasing Clan standard mechs.

Oh, I forgot about that... I suppose, technically then, the Stone Rhino would be primarily a garrison unit, like the Kodiak. Which would make it unlikely to show up in the 'invasion' hence, invasion packs...

Also, I guess there's only one configuration for the Stone Rhino at this time. The other two sport technology unavailable in 3050. (Heavy Lasers, ATMs, etc)

I wonder how they'll handle the hitboxes on mechs like that, and the Marauder. (God I wish we could get the Marauder) Obviously you can't stick a gauss rifle in the center torso with the engine... would you have to divy up the hitboxes? Left side of the barrel counts as left torso, right as right? Maybe with front and back of it being the C-torso?

How was the Marauder addressed in Table Top?

Corbenik, on 04 March 2015 - 06:17 PM, said:

complaining about Sscats fist, man look at the stormcrow prime at least scats fist looks intimidating :X

It does have a fist that looks like it'd punch your lights out... but, it's got the T-Rex dilemma... it's upper arm is so short, it's not really good for anything!

CyborgDragon, on 04 March 2015 - 06:38 PM, said:

It's not just the simply for show, by default the Prime actually had a lower arm and hand actuator on its left arm
http://www.solaris7....nfo.asp?ID=2405
None of the other available configs used them stock, but I assume we'll be able to equip them if we want. You'll also be able to remove the Prime's hand if you really don't like it

So it does o.o But, as I said above, with that little tiny upper arm, it's not going to be punching anything it's not already kissing XD It's certainly not going to be picking up anything either, unless it goes into a full crouch... I suppose you could give it a hand-held range weapon to hold...


I think it's the cockpit, more than anything that's throwing me off... it really needs to have that [Y] shape to it. Annoying as that may be to look out from, it's just not a Shadowcat without it

Edited by Twilight Fenrir, 04 March 2015 - 07:15 PM.

[Evengar Dragonis]

Shadow... CAT? REALLY?
FAIL. Not Good...

Spoiler

Seriously, his head like a dog penis. Or female clitoris.

Edited by Leonid, 04 March 2015 - 08:54 PM.

[G-LOC]

Leonid, on 04 March 2015 - 08:51 PM, said:

Shadow... CAT? REALLY?
FAIL. Not Good...

Spoiler

Seriously, his head like a dog penis. Or female clitoris.

I know what you mean, if it looked more like a male clitoris it'd be okay, but a female one, utter madness!

[Nightshade24]

Sentinel373, on 28 February 2015 - 04:03 AM, said:

It kind of sucks to not give us the concept art for all the mechs before the early adopter program ends. Even star citizen shows you what you're buying before they ask you to fork over the cash.

Mate, here's the flaw in your logic.

They put the "Early adopter program" for THIS EXACT REASON.

They do not have all concept art out yet. Hence this special offer. for "stepping into the dark".

Star citizen doesn't even let you buy stuff that early that gives you extra stuff.

[Nightshade24]

Twilight Fenrir, on 04 March 2015 - 01:04 PM, said:

The Scat....

Scat means 2 things, and one of those meanings is very disgusting and disturbing. I advise you should find another short hand then "SCat".


On top of that... am I the only one to notice a theme here?

Clan wave II: Lots of old Omni's from the clans.

Mist lynx
Ice Ferret
Hell bringer
Gargoyle.

Clan wave III: Lots of new mechs specifically made to replace certain mechs...

Arctic cheetah: made to replace mist lynx.
Shadowcat: made to replace Ice ferret
Couldron Born: Made to replace hellbringer
Gladiator: the "Superior" version of the Gargoyle that can mount MASC.


All these mechs are made to replace the Wave II mechs.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

@Nightshade24: No. From where do you got that? Acc 3058 they are just in differrent Clan:
Look: Fenris: Clan Wolf Shadow Cat: Clan Nova Cat, Smoke Jag , Steel Viper.
Man o war: Wolfes Gladiator Clan GB
Couldron Born: 1. Jaguar Cluster only. Hellbringer: Jade Falcon
Uller: CJF Arctic Cheetah or Short Bow: Clan smoke Jaguar...

[Nightshade24]

Marc von der Heide, on 05 March 2015 - 01:31 AM, said:

@Nightshade24: No. From where do you got that? Acc 3058 they are just in differrent Clan:
Look: Fenris: Clan Wolf Shadow Cat: Clan Nova Cat, Smoke Jag , Steel Viper.
Man o war: Wolfes Gladiator Clan GB
Couldron Born: 1. Jaguar Cluster only. Hellbringer: Jade Falcon
Uller: CJF Arctic Cheetah or Short Bow: Clan smoke Jaguar...

Mechs are used more widely then just clan specific.

For eg the Ice Ferret wasn't even a can wolf design. In fact it was originally made by the ENEMY of clan wolf.
In fact the "Ice Ferret" was originally named "Wolf Hunter" as a way to taunt Clan Wolf.Clan Ice Hellion

Anyway, besides that...

Quote: " The Arctic Cheetah was originally designed by Clan Ice Hellion to replace the Mist Lynx OmniMech. Shortly after they began production in 3037, Clan Smoke Jaguar conquered the factory on Foster that produced the design, enabling the Jaguars to replace their Mist Lynx 'Mechs."

Quote: "The Shadow Cat is a heavily-armed and maneuverable medium OmniMech developed by Clan Nova Cat to replace the Ice Ferret in the early 31st century during preparations for Operation Revival."
" ..., All of these together allow the Shadow Cat to employ more pod space than the Ice Ferret at the expense of speed."

Also the Executioner story I stated was with the Kodiak, not with the Gargoyle. However you can't blame me, they do both use the same legs >.>

Edited by Nightshade24, 05 March 2015 - 02:24 AM.

[Evengar Dragonis]

Nightshade24, on 05 March 2015 - 12:42 AM, said:

Mate, here's the flaw in your logic.

They put the "Early adopter program" for THIS EXACT REASON.

They do not have all concept art out yet. Hence this special offer. for "stepping into the dark".

Star citizen doesn't even let you buy stuff that early that gives you extra stuff.

I hope that will be a good model.
But the art is terrible!
Orange paint color makes it in the form of a claw. And over his head in the center of the torso black hole - what is it?

Spoiler

Solid ledge, no holes.

Claw and black hole

Edited by Leonid, 05 March 2015 - 02:37 AM.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

Sorry Sarna is in this case not correct. Check the original Readouts please. 3050/3058.

[Evengar Dragonis]

Marc von der Heide, on 05 March 2015 - 02:47 AM, said:

Sorry Sarna is in this case not correct. Check the original Readouts please. 3050/3058.

8621 TRO 3058 Original, page 167.

Spoiler

35015 TRO 3058 Upgrade, page 171

Spoiler

One picture from Duane Loose.