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[Dirk Le Daring]

Mordin Ashe, on 21 February 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

I just had an interesting game. 12man (NS from kurita, great job btw) against 12 complete pugs.
-SNIP-

Because VOIP is in the game people can now coordinate better...... Nerf VOIP ?

I have noticed much better teamwork since VOIP came in.

Edited by Dirk Le Daring, 21 February 2015 - 01:17 AM.

[DownRightFierce]

Mordin Ashe, on 21 February 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

AND be invincible
/rant

Hey guys, IS is invincible. Wars over. ggclose..

[Onmyoudo]

Entire thread is OP getting trashed by Kurita. Guess he didn't get enough in game, so brought it to the forums, too?

Out of interest, do any other clanners legitimately believe in the OP's assessment of balance?

[Abivard]

I think OPs point was that the IS ERLL on the best quirked mech variant with ERLL has almost the same range as his C-ERLL equipped on any clan mech, this is very unfair to the clan player.

How can one expect the average clan player to win an even fight?

[Crockdaddy]

Onmyoudo, on 21 February 2015 - 01:27 AM, said:

Entire thread is OP getting trashed by Kurita. Guess he didn't get enough in game, so brought it to the forums, too?

Out of interest, do any other clanners legitimately believe in the OP's assessment of balance?

It isn't really a trash post. Just a bit of late night humor. I understand many points the original OP was making even if I don't agree with all of them.

[Aleraen]

Mordin Ashe, on 21 February 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

They killed 25 of us before we even managed to return the fire.

God. Could I live in this world where this was a thing? I mean, it would be like being Batman surrounded by the Joker's goons.

But all trolling aside, we do appreciate the match, and of course recognize that you guys played well despite the mixed unit. GG.

Edited by Aleraen, 21 February 2015 - 01:44 AM.

[LoklanZFG]

thank you for the compliment, Mordin. But I would like to point out that with a range module, the C ERLLs have the same optimal range as our best quirked IS mechs. On top of that, you can take T-comps. What you experienced was just a 12 man that has done erll sniping on Boreal A LOT.

[Onmyoudo]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 21 February 2015 - 01:36 AM, said:

It isn't really a trash post. Just a bit of late night humor. I understand many points the original OP was making even if I don't agree with all of them.

I didn't mean trash post like that, I just meant that it's been all Kurita pilots calling him out on his obvious QQ. OP's issue is with encountering an organised 12 man who can play, and then coming to the forums to cry for blanket nerfs to IS weapons/mechs to make himself feel better.

Edited by Onmyoudo, 21 February 2015 - 01:47 AM.

[Will HellFire]

Please do ignore the rantings of someone who obviously is not thinking about game balance but only about himself.

I get killed by ERLL?Forum post to complain.
I get killed by PPCs? Forum post to complain.
I get beaten by Generator rush? Forum post to complain.
I get beaten by Dropzone occupation? Forum post to complain.

Summary: I get killed or beaten, I complain.

Its better if we just ignore these kind of people. Dont feed the troll!

[Crockdaddy]

Onmyoudo, on 21 February 2015 - 01:45 AM, said:

I didn't mean trash post like that, I just meant that it's been all Kurita pilots calling him out on his obvious QQ. OP's issue is with encountering an organised 12 man who can play, and then coming to the forums to cry for blanket nerfs to IS weapons/mechs to make himself feel better.

I will say the OP was good to us, so OP don't take our late night troll to heart. Balance in this game is always frustrating as you well know. I would love to take my Madcat and Ryoken out for a spin. It it has been sooo long since I last dropped in one.


PS, please don't tell Road Beer that we dropped all night against you guys. He won't believe it anyway.

PS PS ... Die Clanner!

[zortesh]

well massive massive problems with this.

1: clans don't have theoretical better dps, they have vastly better burst dps, they dominate midrange poking.
2: we don't outrange you guys, atall, clan erll's have more range, since we bug out at 1500m for erll... you build a dedicated clan sniper it will ourtrange us.

Clans are vastly better generalists.
Is can be better specialists given how much you can customize them.

You went against a team full of specialized snipers, that were playing well, in a situation that is literally the most favorable situation they can fight from in this game, while playing with a team of disorganized pugs in crappy builds with no effective sniper loadouts.

It does not mean sphere is op..........

If yall took 12 warhawks with 4 erll, erll modules, and targeting computer 7's you'd make what we did seem wimpy and pathetic in comparison.


So short version... Your just angry you got stomped, Sphereopids aren't op, we don't have more range, also gg thanks for target practice

[Leeroy Mechkins]

Actually I think the whole Clan and IS balance is going to change dramatically.

First of all, Clan Wave 3 is coming, this time with great mechs.

Second, IS may have some increased drop deck allowance.

Third, Clan mechs may have a quirk pass.

After all these 3 take place, the whole balance picture may look a whole lot different!

[JohnnyBlue07]

You can review 4 hours of our matches against clanners here and I assure you that teamwork, coordination, and skill is what won those matches - not unbalanced IS weapons or quirks.

[Ax2Grind]

johnnyblue007, on 21 February 2015 - 02:54 AM, said:

You can review 4 hours of our matches against clanners here and I assure you that teamwork, coordination, and skill is what won those matches - not unbalanced IS weapons or quirks.

This is some impressive doctored twitch footage. Which IS team agreed to dress up in clan mechs? I'm kidding of course, its not that impressive. If you look closely at the "clan" mechs you can see where the various Davion parts are duck taped together to make it appear as if a mech is clan. Nice try Kurita. Nice college try. Everyone knows Kurita doesn't attack the clans. Maybe this will fool the average Pugger from the Outer Periphery but you can't fool me!

[JohnnyBlue07]

Ax2Grind, on 21 February 2015 - 03:06 AM, said:

This is some impressive doctored twitch footage. Which IS team agreed to dress up in clan mechs? I'm kidding of course, its not that impressive. If you look closely at the "clan" mechs you can see where the various Davion parts are duck taped together to make it appear as if a mech is clan. Nice try Kurita. Nice college try. Everyone knows Kurita doesn't attack the clans. Maybe this will fool the average Pugger from the Outer Periphery but you can't fool me!

Oh noes. He has seen through our clever disguise Coordinator-senpai! Shamefur dispray!

[zortesh]

Mordin Ashe, on 21 February 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

We could crush them from range by LRMs (noone took AMS) but guess what, PGI is still stupid enough to keep ECM stacking going on, meaning that as long as they had 2 ECM there were immune to any CAP/ECM we could push their way.

Just saw this lrm part, missed it on first read through.... i have one thing to say in rebuttal to anyone that thinks lrms can be decisive vs a good organized team.

HAHAHhahaahHAHAHAhahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahHAHAHAHAhahaHHAHAHAHAHahHAHAHahahahHAHAHAHAHA
*stops for breath*
AHAHAHahahahaHAHAHAHAHahahahahHAHAHAHahahahahaHAHAHAHahahahahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahHAHAHAHAhahahahahHAHAHAHAhahahahahHAHAHAhhahahahaahHAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha

Okay okay I'm done now.

Thanks for the good laughs.

Edited by zortesh, 21 February 2015 - 03:39 AM.

[hopterque]

Haha no but seriously he's right LRMs are the only viable counter to inner sphere mechs at all at any range and they should in fact be employed en masse, especially in your heaviest mechs.

[Karl Marlow]

I'm confused. Don't Clanners have ERLL's as well? Do you not have access to range modules? Don't your LL's do more damage and have more reach than IS ones? Serioujsly the only imbalance I see was 12 man premade vs 12 pugs and 12 man coordinating their fire is going to steamroll pugs. End of story.

Edited by ThomasMarik, 21 February 2015 - 05:07 AM.

[SteelWarrior]

Ax2Grind, on 21 February 2015 - 03:06 AM, said:

This is some impressive doctored twitch footage. Which IS team agreed to dress up in clan mechs? I'm kidding of course, its not that impressive. If you look closely at the "clan" mechs you can see where the various Davion parts are duck taped together to make it appear as if a mech is clan. Nice try Kurita. Nice college try. Everyone knows Kurita doesn't attack the clans. Maybe this will fool the average Pugger from the Outer Periphery but you can't fool me!

Dispatch an ISF spec ops team to eliminate this clanner, he knows too much.

[Lacewing]

Wow, it's a Kurita invasion.