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[Creovex]

How about our new community manager hop in and fix this. I am with Bishop on this, they had a crappy time frame that needed to be fixed but waiting till the last second and putting people in awkward positions at home is unnecessary and those 8 day window buyers should get at least a few days of premium time or something for the drama.

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 01 March 2015 - 12:00 PM, said:

I'm just curious how many will buy the Arctic Cheetah or Shadow Cat A la Carte?

Always felt the a la carte option needed to scale ...because I should NOT be spending the same amount for a Cauldron Born as I do an Executioner, etc.

Well, for C-bill/MC pricing, that should be true.

On the other hand, all the mechs "cost the same" when you consider the pack structure and the work that needs to be done on the whole.

So... good luck with that train of thought.

[Sjorpha]

My personal gripe is that the fourth variant was restricted to begin with, and at the same time an absolute requirement for the optimal builds in at least 3 of the 4 mechs. The gift store new clan variants have the same problem.

The fact that competitive players will not even be able to buy these variants before cbill release forces any competitive setup to ban use of any those omnipods which is extrememly difficult with omnipods that isn't immediately discernible.

I would have preferred if there was at least the option to add on the 4th variants by paying extra, cutting them off completely creates a lot of problems.

The change of a given deadline is lame, but I don't know what to think since having cruical-for-optimisation variants be the early reward is so extremely lame to begin with.

I still like the package enough to buy the cauldron born, but it's gonna feel a bit dirty pushing the limit with those pods...Guilty pleasures I guess I have to admit to looking forward to the exclusive period of ownership with all it's whining and flaunting, am I a bad person?

My guilty conscience would be a little soothed if the factions where actually balanced ton for ton by then, so i could feel that the unfettered bloodthirst and sadistic ecstacy i am planning to enjoy in these mechs where pure and untainted by any legitimate balance concern, but I guess that is much to hope for.

Edited by Sjorpha, 01 March 2015 - 12:15 PM.

[Vassago Rain]

Sjorpha, on 01 March 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

My personal gripe is that the fourth variant was restricted to begin with, and at the same time an absolute requirement for the optimal builds in at least 3 of the 4 mechs. The gift store new clan variants have the same problem.

The fact that competitive players will not even be able to buy these variants before cbill release forces any competitive setup to ban use of any those omnipods which is extrememly difficult with omnipods that isn't immediately discernible.

I would have preferred if there was at least the option to add on the 4th variants by paying extra, cutting them off completely creates a lot of problems.

The change of a given deadline is lame, but I don't know what to think since having cruical-for-optimisation variants be the early reward is so extremely lame to begin with.

I still like the package enough to buy the cauldron born, but it's gonna feel a bit dirty pushing the limit with those pods...Guilty pleasures I guess I have to admit to looking forward to the exclusive period of ownership with all it's whining and flaunting, am I a bad person?

No, but it makes you look foolish grabbing deals from PGI when we all know loyalty, deadlines, and exclusivity mean very little to them. For all we know, they could celebrate early access release day by handing out free cauldron borns to everybody in a grind event.

Or they'll introduce even better 5th variants, that you don't get in the grab deal package.

[Shatara]

>People complain about window being too short
>PGI extends window
>People complain because they already bought it in the short window

I'm glad they extended it, and I already bought mine. A small token of thanks, like an extra cosmetic or some premium time would be nice, but demanding such is rather childish.

Maybe a title? "Blind Faith" perhaps? Or "Shut Up And Take My Money"?

[Mystere]

Sjorpha, on 01 March 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

The fact that competitive players will not even be able to buy these variants before cbill release forces any competitive setup to ban use of any those omnipods which is extrememly difficult with omnipods that isn't immediately discernible.

I keep seeing people hint about so-called "competitions". Just what are these? Where are they held? Who are sponsors and governing bodies? What are the prizes awarded? How much are the monetary awards worth? Are there endorsement deals to be had?

Edited by Mystere, 01 March 2015 - 12:18 PM.

[Mad Strike]

Catalinasgrace, on 01 March 2015 - 11:03 AM, said:

Pushing back the early bird special on the Wave III pack is pretty crappy. Some of us took some large Pulse Laser and Machine Gun fire from the wife over this... What exactly do you plan to do for those that actually blindly showed support even though we couldn't see what two of the mechs even looked like, and had only a few days to do so???

Make your minds up and stick to your guns... You look pretty silly when you fold and change your mind... Just sayin...

Happened because i asked for it on their Facebook page lol

[Chagatay]

Vassago Rain, on 01 March 2015 - 11:45 AM, said:

I wouldn't know about client stability and etc, as I took a break between december 28th to february 17th, but I'll take your word for it.

Actually, when I was helping my boys and girls grind during the raven event, I had problems adjusing to how poor the game seemed compared to november and december.

It is pretty bad at least as I can tell (crash early crash often). New and exciting bugs though have me at the edge of my seat as I never know when I will hit F on instinct at the WORST possible moment and spin like a washing machine.

[Catalinasgrace]

To be honest. I'm not worried about getting something extra for any of this. However, I simply want people and companies to be responsible for their actions. They set the deadline, they choose to do what they did. They made the bed so to speak... I own my company and if I were to have a deal or special clients would freak out and not use me any longer if I told them "Wait, I know you already paid me. However we are changing the deal to make more money. Even though your deal was a special for going ahead and doing it now".

That is a horrible business practice to get into, and one that will often find a company out of paying customers...

[Bishop Steiner]

Catalinasgrace, on 01 March 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

To be honest. I'm not worried about getting something extra for any of this. However, I simply want people and companies to be responsible for their actions. They set the deadline, they choose to do what they did. They made the bed so to speak... I own my company and if I were to have a deal or special clients would freak out and not use me any longer if I told them "Wait, I know you already paid me. However we are changing the deal to make more money. Even though your deal was a special for going ahead and doing it now".

That is a horrible business practice to get into, and one that will often find a company out of paying customers...

a worse business practice is to make a bad decision, then refuse to change course when that becomes obvious. Yes,the customers affected should be compensated, but sticking to a bad idea, "because" is how Government is run, not good business.

[Appogee]

One other consideration: "the boy who cried wolf". I'm sure PGI would want us all to take future deadlines seriously.

[Vassago Rain]

Bishop Steiner, on 01 March 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

a worse business practice is to make a bad decision, then refuse to change course when that becomes obvious. Yes,the customers affected should be compensated, but sticking to a bad idea, "because" is how Government is run, not good business.

PGI's quite guilty of both of those.

Maybe next time, they do it right on the first try instead? They've had years to figure this out, and 'mistakes' aren't actually mistakes, but attempts to get more money.

Honestly, I don't know why you guys put up with their business model and attitude.

[AlexEss]

Catalinasgrace, on 01 March 2015 - 11:40 AM, said:

What are you babbling about exactly? PGI set the deadline not me, therefore those of us that actually bought it have the RIGHT to our exclusive deal... Period...

But YOU... ARE... GETTING... YOUR... EXCLUSIVE... DEAL...

Nobody is taking it away from you....It is still as exclusive as it was before... As i said.. The only thing is that YOU feel that it is watered down because a few more people can get it...

As have been stated before... Going by your line of thought... The next OP mech should be left as is... Because that was how it was made... The next broken map or mechanic should be left untouched.. Because...

That stance is ridiculous

@appogee: Or they could just you know... mark this one down as another notch on the "we actually try to fix bad decimations" belt.

[Vanguard836]

sigh....

Deal is present for a short amount, people complain.
Deal is extended because of it, people complain that it's extended.

Did the price get jacked up ? Did something get removed from the package ? How is this a bad thing that more people can get in on it IF they chose to do so.

[Catalinasgrace]

Vassago Rain, on 01 March 2015 - 12:25 PM, said:

PGI's quite guilty of both of those.

Maybe next time, they do it right on the first try instead? They've had years to figure this out, and 'mistakes' aren't actually mistakes, but attempts to get more money.

Honestly, I don't know why you guys put up with their business model and attitude.

Well after this, I personally will not be buying anything else unless they make it right in a big way... I have spent a TON of money on MWO but this will in fact be my last purchase with these kinds of poor choices by PGI. Yes, I'll continue to play as I enjoy the game. But, they will not see another dime from me. I'll simply convert to c-bill only purchases like so many others. As I think I have 108 mechs with 5 or so empty bays, I'll have room to play as I wish...

[Water Bear]

I don't think it's that big of a deal.

Not to be too rude, but it's not really a community issue if some people have money troubles with their spouses.

[Mcgral18]

This seems appropriate

[Catalinasgrace]

wow, I'm glad a few of those within this community didn't have to live way back in the day... It would simply break my heart to know they were referred to as the village idiots... Where exactly did common sense and logic run off to anyway? I'll put out a reward for it maybe...

Water Bear, on 01 March 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

I don't think it's that big of a deal.

Not to be too rude, but it's not really a community issue if some people have money troubles with their spouses.

That was a joke son...

[Shatara]

I guess some people only bought it because they thought nobody else would be able to.

"But you said it was a special deal JUST FOR ME! Why does HE get one too!?"

AlexEss, on 01 March 2015 - 12:27 PM, said:

As have been stated before... Going by your line of thought... The next OP mech should be left as is... Because that was how it was made... The next broken map or mechanic should be left untouched.. Because...

Sadly, I've seen people make that exact argument. "I bought my Type 59 because it was OP, and then you nerfed it! You're not allowed to do that because I bought it with real money!"

[AlexEss]

Catalinasgrace, on 01 March 2015 - 12:39 PM, said:

wow, I'm glad a few of those within this community didn't have to live way back in the day... It would simply break my heart to know they were referred to as the village idiots... Where exactly did common sense and logic run off to anyway? I'll put out a reward for it maybe..

Wow... Overcompensating much...?

I have not seen that much... well.. posterior pain since... last tuesday...


We are not dealing in tarmogoyf´s here. Only sentimental value... And i am sorry but i rather prefer they deal with monetary value. You ofc have the right to laugh at what can be argued to be poor planning... But here is a hint... PGI will be the vinners in the end any way....

Cheers.