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[Zookeeper Dan]

I was really happy to hear that this challenge was based on match score instead of kills, deaths, and/or wins.

But the reality of this challenge has been you need to do okay on a winning team to qualify. If I have an average game and my team wins, I'm above 30 points. If I'm below average or my team loses I don't qualify.

Which brings up the fact of who is this challenge for? C-Bills are always nice, but if you're a good enough pilot the extra money is helpful, but you're probably earning more by just playing. If you're in my boat where every CB counts, you get frustrated having to play a lot of matches and then stare at a 29 point score. Or know that because the Raven was able to chase down a disconnected player before you could even help with the kill your match didn't qualify.

I think this type of challenge has a lot of potential, but I just wish it was step based instead of all or nothing. For example:
15 points - $25,000
30 points - $75.000
45 points - $125,000
Maximum $2,000,000 per weight class.

[Corbenik]

It isn't that hard to get min 30 if you press R and scout the enemies tag what u can and play safe and focus fire at least get 300 damage with doing the other things. ive gotten my 30-50 and i am a crappy player with losses.
This challenge has been way easier than all previous ones and I still play normal, not unlike the others where people go in die and rinse repeat

Edited by Corbenik, 14 March 2015 - 01:45 PM.

[stjobe]

Match score is primarily damage-based (divide your damage by 10, that's the starting point for match score), but there's other factors (a kill is 1 point, an assist is 1 point, as is spotting assists and destroyed components. A win is 10 points.

There's other factors (see these patch notes for a full list of Reward 2.0 rewards - some of them affect match score).

So, basically, if you do nothing else, just doing 300 damage should net you a 30+ match score. Win or lose.

[AThousandD]

It's official: whatever event PGI comes up with, it's always "frustrating" for someone.

No, it shouldn't be step based. I want it all or nothing. I don't want bad games to count and decrease my maximum winnings.

Really.

30 match score.

You can almost do that blindfolded and it can also be pulled off even on bad losses.

[BumbleBee]

Really?

I'm far from being a great player and I have to fail pretty badly, or be pretty damn unlucky (first contact, caught away from cover and focus fired while friendlies run away type of unlucky) to get less than 30 on a loss. I mean, it happens, but I've failed to hit 30 maybe 4 times in a 6hr play with most matches being solo.

I'm fine with these challenges. Whilst some will go stupid with friendly fire, most people realise 30 points is not very high at all, and that they will get it if they just play normally. Fire on enemy targets with your allies, it doesn't matter if you get the kill or not, and im pretty sure friendly fire can effect your score (may be wrong here) so just watch your shots.

[Armorine]

Knew it!!!! We couldn't get through one challenge. Where's the cheese!

[Mirumoto Izanami]

[stjobe]

BumbleBee, on 14 March 2015 - 01:54 PM, said:

im pretty sure friendly fire can effect your score (may be wrong here)

Yeah, you're wrong. A team kill is -5 match score (as well as an XP and CB penalty), but just team damage does not affect your match score.

BumbleBee, on 14 March 2015 - 01:54 PM, said:

so just watch your shots.

This, on the other hand, is excellent advice.

[Xetelian]

30 points is a good baseline for participation points.

[CocoaJin]

30pts is tremendously easy to get in a light or medium...no kills, no component destruction, sub-200 damage...on a loss mind you! Scouting helps, but just grouping up with and escorting the Assaults works just fine for me...easy-peesy.

Edit:
I forgot to mention I palsy on a craptop, I get between 6-12FPS on all the maps...some maps are on the lower half of that FPS range, some on the higher end of the range. Sometimes my mouse clicks don't event register it's so bad. Still, easy-peesy.

Edited by CocoaJin, 14 March 2015 - 10:47 PM.

[Spheroid]

30 points is nothing, almost any chassis is capable of achieving it sans getting stomped.

[Zookeeper Dan]

Sorry to be "that guy" but it's almost like there are two different games being played here. I've been checking the scores for everyone and at the bottom of PUG land where I reside all but 3-4 players on a winning team are more than 30 points, and all but 3-4 players on the losing team are under 30 points. So saying that you can get 30 points with your eyes closed is not the case for a sizable number of players.

[VanguardMk1]

I have to agree with the majority here. A score of 30 is very easy to obtain. Just support your teammates and don't stand in the open too long and you have it. I played 43 matches for this challenge, only going for the medium and light classes for now. I got 40 qualifying matches and 3 that didn't.

[Raggedyman]

I'm really, really failing to see what the problem is here.

It's a perfectly doable challenge, which almost everyone can get goodies from without having to radically and detrimentally adjust their playing style, and it's got nice rewards.

And yet people *****.

Seriously, the only "difficulty" or "problem" with it is trying to find the time to max out on all the CBills that are dangling there.

Folks have moaned that the challenges were too exclusive, now it's a combination of too inclusive and also tricky to get.

How about going "Gee, thanks for that" just this once???

[Zookeeper Dan]

Ok, please give me advice of things I can do differently to increase my score. I'll try haning out with assaults because my Centurian usually gets put in a lance of Ravens, Firestarters, and Jenners so there's no lance formation bonus for me.

[CTsai]

Lets play a game I like to call, Spot a Scrub.
SPOTTED A SCRUB!!! I WIN.

In all seriousness though, you can easily get above 30 pt in a light with narc and tag. This is coming from someone who cant play light to save his life

Edited by CTsai, 14 March 2015 - 02:35 PM.

[Nightmare1]

A match score of 30 is ridiculously easy to get. Match scores are based on a wide variety factors including kills, assists, damage, spotting, etc. If you're not making 30 points per match, then you're doing something very, very wrong. Make sure that you are pressing "R" on each Mech you fight. Also, don't be afraid to shoot Mechs other than the one you are hunting. Concentrating your damage on one Mech for one kill will result in a lower match score than if you had spread the damage between a half dozen Mechs and gotten a half dozen kill assists.

I've been streaming most of my Pot O' Gold matches on Twitch. If you'd like to see an example of good play tactics, check out my broadcasts from today at NightmareJK on Twitch.Tv.

Link: http://www.twitch.tv...tmarejk/profile

Edit: Just fyi, in my opinion, this is one of the best Challenges PGI has ever done!

Edited by Nightmare1, 14 March 2015 - 02:32 PM.

[stjobe]

Danth Reduviid, on 14 March 2015 - 02:24 PM, said:

Ok, please give me advice of things I can do differently to increase my score. I'll try haning out with assaults because my Centurian usually gets put in a lance of Ravens, Firestarters, and Jenners so there's no lance formation bonus for me.

Read these patch notes. Included a bit down on that page are the things that give you end-of-match rewards, and some of these also increase your match score.

Other than that, try to get a few spotting assists by pressing R whenever you see a non-filled red triangle, try to get as many assists and of course kills as you can, but remember that a destroyed component counts for as much as a kill when it comes to match score.

Oh, and try to do above at least 200 damage before you die. If you manage 300, that's a 30 match score in itself.

Happy hunting!

Edited by stjobe, 14 March 2015 - 02:38 PM.

[Vassago Rain]

Bro, I got 20 wins in my locust, and I didn't do 200 damage once.

30 points is super easy. Just do like 6 assists and drop red smoke on someone.

[Roadkill]

Danth Reduviid, on 14 March 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

I was really happy to hear that this challenge was based on match score instead of kills, deaths, and/or wins.

But the reality of this challenge has been you need to do okay on a winning team to qualify. If I have an average game and my team wins, I'm above 30 points. If I'm below average or my team loses I don't qualify.

I played 22 games in mediums yesterday and only failed to qualify in 2 of them. That was 12 wins and 10 losses. (I think. It might have been 13-9 or possibly even 14-8, but no better than that.)

The two non-qualifying matches were both blowouts in which I was the high scorer (match score) on my team. One of those times I had 239 damage and nothing else and so only got 24 points in a match that took less than 5 minutes. We got steamrolled. The other time I had low 200's damage, but got an assist for my team's lone kill and a couple of spotting/whatever bonuses but still only managed 27 points.

My average match score in those 22 games was 62.

If you play smart it's almost hard to NOT qualify in this format.