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#1 HellJumper

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 10:33 PM

Hello

now that its is confirmed that CW will be getting a new map this month and another one next month (in April).

so the question is simple. when will maps for normal matches start to come again?

its pretty much obvious that tha major population is not in CW atm. now i am not saying that maps should not be bring in CW. they are necessary required. but ignoring the other side where the most population is also wrong. If i am not wrong the last map was in november, this will mean almost 5 months (till april) before the next map comes, if its coming.

This is so wrong imo and very bad for the game itself. A casual/new player dont dive in CW straight away. they will play non CW mode more and when they start to realise that new new maps are planned or coming out, well they will start to leave as well.

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 11:13 PM

A new map is unlikely going to happen.

The best you can hope for are environmental effects like a sandstorm or something on Tourmaline.

Of course, anything is better than just *insert map name* Night Edition.

It is what it is.

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 11:18 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 14 March 2015 - 11:13 PM, said:

Of course, anything is better than just *insert map name* Night Edition.

I for one would love more night versions. And just delete night and heat vision from the game. I don't even care, they're ugly, and they completely ruin the entire point of playing sparsely lit night maps.

More night. Less green and black and white.

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 11:37 PM

Great, more rubbish night versions like river city = more reasons to alt f4.

Frozen city night is ok but river city is awful with those vision modes I never feel like playing it.

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 11:41 PM

CW only has like 3 maps right now I think, so they are focusing on that for now till they fill it up or finish that other game mode they plan to add to CW that lets them use any of the non-cw maps on it. I imagine after that they will add some new maps for regular play.

#6 Big Tin Man

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 11:44 PM

I'd personally like to see the original very foggy bog come back. Crazy easy for them to put in, and it has a totally different feel. They just need to make the range on thermal less effective, like 3-400m effective.

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 12:45 AM

View PostBrody319, on 14 March 2015 - 11:41 PM, said:

CW only has like 3 maps right now I think, so they are focusing on that for now till they fill it up or finish that other game mode they plan to add to CW that lets them use any of the non-cw maps on it. I imagine after that they will add some new maps for regular play.


ya it has less maps atm but how long will they focus completely on it? how many maps? even if they go with one map per month and plan to have a total of 10 maps for CW we are looking at another 7 months of maps being added to CW and nothing for your normal queue for a looong time.. your population is in normal pug matches not CW atm and i highly doubt it will change drastically in the coming months...

thats a huge amount of time for CW focus only.... yes this number can be much shorter lets say 5 maps but we dont even know how many maps or game modes they plan to add to CW before shifting back to your normal queue ...

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 01:49 AM

You know mechs in BT had lights nad some mechs had powerful spotlights that can go illuminate areas even 1 km away.

On top of that but there are flares as well... which behave like NARC but is very bright and lights up an area...

There are many ways to make night maps more interesting...

I beleive there is also illumination NARC warheads and illumination LRM warheads as well as tracer rounds for AC's which clearly show where your bullets are heading. good for low vis battles.

Who here wants maps at dusk/ dawn? Not forcing night vision or thermal but useful in some areas as well as pretty sky?

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 03:23 AM

Your in the wrong place for this argument. PGI will do nothing from any suggestion here. You need to be on twitter.

PGI has abandoned new players and it will remain that way for as long as their teat is in NGNGs grasp.

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 03:45 AM

Still waiting for a caustic variant. Pre volcano go boom with more trees come on pgi you know you wanna.

#11 HellJumper

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 05:44 AM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 15 March 2015 - 03:23 AM, said:

Your in the wrong place for this argument. PGI will do nothing from any suggestion here. You need to be on twitter.

PGI has abandoned new players and it will remain that way for as long as their teat is in NGNGs grasp.


ya well i did ask and they said next two maps are for CW... end of story

they should just shut down the forums and tell everyone to come on twitter...

we have zero clue whats going to happen..and not focusing on new players mean the game wont grow..which is very very bad

#12 Weeny Machine

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 06:03 AM

I wonder how they want to keep new and old customers (especially once the game goes live on Steam).

The game lacks..
1. Maps / Map Quality
Not just CW but also Solo Queue maps are problematic. Some are really crappy and not fun: Forest Colony, Therma and LRM Va...err Caustic Valley come to mind.

2. Warfare
This game is, sorry to be harsh, a glorified deathmatch. Objectives hardly matter because in most cases it is much easier to simply kill of the enemy.

It would be cool to have "missions" where you have to split up your team in order to accomplish anything. If it is technical possible stuff like pve tanks or aerospace fighters could be added.

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 07:24 AM

+1...or a gazillion, for new maps. Not everyone enjoys CW. Gameplay is stale in the other game modes. Out of the 7 or so active members we have currently in my unit, only 1 plays CW.

There were grand hopes for CW when it was launched. But it offers nothing for casual units like mine. We have nothing to show for playing many CW matches in the beginning. Therein lies the problem with CW - if a unit participates at all in a match they should get something so they feel like they haven't wasted their time. Currently, there is nothing. Getting a planet with your tags under it is underwhelming, and close to impossible for any casual group. That's another topic.

But, yes, need more maps. As was pointed out, it has been several months since we had a new map, and since nothing thru at least April, that means another month and a half of same old routine.

Edited by Coolant, 15 March 2015 - 07:25 AM.


#14 SkyHammyr

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 08:13 AM

I wonder how hard it would be to put the CW maps in Public and Group Queue Rotations?
Seems to me, that would be an easy fix.

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 08:34 AM

I wonder anyway why they put more resources into a niche mode of a niche game. I'd understand it, if the mode were made more attractive (like PuG vs PuG queue) for the casuals

Edited by Bush Hopper, 15 March 2015 - 08:35 AM.


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 09:33 AM

View PostSkyHammr, on 15 March 2015 - 08:13 AM, said:

I wonder how hard it would be to put the CW maps in Public and Group Queue Rotations?
Seems to me, that would be an easy fix.



that is my suggesstion as well if they dont want to go around making new maps.. put the CW maps in..change the spanw points and thats it..should give some variety for a small time atleast..like couple of months

View PostCoolant, on 15 March 2015 - 07:24 AM, said:

+1...or a gazillion, for new maps. Not everyone enjoys CW. Gameplay is stale in the other game modes. Out of the 7 or so active members we have currently in my unit, only 1 plays CW.

There were grand hopes for CW when it was launched. But it offers nothing for casual units like mine. We have nothing to show for playing many CW matches in the beginning. Therein lies the problem with CW - if a unit participates at all in a match they should get something so they feel like they haven't wasted their time. Currently, there is nothing. Getting a planet with your tags under it is underwhelming, and close to impossible for any casual group. That's another topic.

But, yes, need more maps. As was pointed out, it has been several months since we had a new map, and since nothing thru at least April, that means another month and a half of same old routine.



ya it makes me sad to not expect new maps :(

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 09:29 PM

having variants of maps wont bring too much into it as they will still ahve the same zones where teams are fighting. the difference will be only aesthetics wise and nothing gameplay wise imo.

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 09:30 PM

I don't think we will see a new non-cw map until there are at least 8 to 10 CW maps.

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 09:34 PM

View PostHellJumper, on 14 March 2015 - 10:33 PM, said:

Hello

now that its is confirmed that CW will be getting a new map this month and another one next month (in April).

so the question is simple. when will maps for normal matches start to come again?

its pretty much obvious that tha major population is not in CW atm. now i am not saying that maps should not be bring in CW. they are necessary required. but ignoring the other side where the most population is also wrong. If i am not wrong the last map was in november, this will mean almost 5 months (till april) before the next map comes, if its coming.

This is so wrong imo and very bad for the game itself. A casual/new player dont dive in CW straight away. they will play non CW mode more and when they start to realise that new new maps are planned or coming out, well they will start to leave as well.


They have about 400-500 players at peak times doing CW, they have to keep releasing new maps to support that huge demographic that makes up 5% of their players.

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 11:04 PM

The short answer is "not anytime soon"





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