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[XX Sulla XX]

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I don't use photoshop. I'm a poor peasant.

Ok Gimp then http://www.gimp.org/

Edited by XX Sulla XX, 15 March 2015 - 04:05 PM.

[Burktross]

XX Sulla XX, on 15 March 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Ok Gimp then http://www.gimp.org/

Tried GIMP, but Paint.net is my tool of choice, I just need to re-learn it. I'll install GIMP just in case.
Note: Paint.net is not Ms Paint

Edited by Burktross, 15 March 2015 - 04:07 PM.

[Redhook]

Burktross, on 15 March 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Yes, I keep saying this.
Edited away rudeness.

So I assume you will be Piloting this mech as you would an atlas then it seems

[XX Sulla XX]

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Tried GIMP, but Paint.net is my tool of choice, I just need to re-learn it. I'll install GIMP just in case.
Note: Paint.net is not Ms Paint

Here is a thread that tells how to check surface area in Gimp. Might work for paint no idea.

http://www.graphicsg...a5036ef5b41.htm

"Let me explain in more detail...

Edit save selection saves your current selection and automatically drops you in
the saved channel which represents your selection. You are no longer in the
current layer, even though you have not done anything special to select the
saved selection channel! Right?
Step 2.
The next command Histogram will work on the saved selection...
You can now make precise calculations by dragging the mouse on the histogram
* Pixels Gives the total number of pixels you have/
* Count gives the number of pixels under the area you have selected in
Histogram
Others give extra information but we do not need right now.
Check this image out:
http://groups.yahoo....election.xcf.gz
It is 450*300 pixel = 135000 pixels
I made a 150*100 pixels selection = 15000 pixels, saved...
(Go to saved selection channel... Image/ Histogram)
Select some area under histogram by dragging the mouse:
Count for the right end of histogram reads: 15000 (This is exactly my selected
area)
Count at the left end of Histogram : 120000 (=135000-15000) (This is uselected
area)Nevit"

[Bishop Steiner]

Ultimatum X, on 15 March 2015 - 04:04 PM, said:

Thank you for once again ignoring all of my actual points. You're quite good at evading the meat of posts.


You spend how long making how many threads (at least 4 direct/indirect threads on it by my count) to get your pet Summoner buffed?


Including everything from fairly LARGE quirks, and unlocking Endo and sending Russ frequent tweets on it.



So it's OK when your pet mech doesn't turn out how you wanted it to, to lobby for buffs particularly quirk buffs for your pet mech, but when someone else suggests that quirks are important for a mech they have high hopes for then suddenly it's the "Self fulfilling metawhore prophecy"?


This is even after you forgot the GRH even had quirks assigned to it because they were so uninteresting?





Could you possibly be any more hypocritical?

Yup. I could take things out of context and twist was said. Kinda like you just did. What else is new?

Not sure how me not remembering what quirks the GRG was getting makes me a hypocrite, but hey, since you are always right, I'll take your word for it.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 15 March 2015 - 04:12 PM.

[Burktross]

Redhook, on 15 March 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

So I assume you will be Piloting this mech as you would an atlas then it seems

Alas, I very well might need too.
Damn, I regret not learning how to Atlas better.

[LordBraxton]

XX Sulla XX, on 15 March 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

Even now you are using arbitrary comparisons. And if it is about design and not volume tonnage ratios then you might want to say so in your original post instead of talking about scaling.


Height is not a bad thing. A tall thin mech is a good over all design. If the volume is any where close to correct then there is zero problem with the over all design of the mech.

Also metamechs is not just talking about comp play. The Shadowhawk height and thinness is true for all play.

I did say that in the OP, when I stress that this isnt about the grasshopper being DoA etc. etc.

In the Battletech that I know, assault mechs are considerably larger than heavies.

If we get real, all mechs are incredibly lightweight for their size, and please dont throw any sci fi soft science at me.

The minis often are terribly scaled, but it's pathetic that a video game is managing to do even worse in some cases. The grasshopper comes up to an atlas's chest.

I also think most mechs are far too squished in MWO however. The Centurion in particular lost all of the grace from Alex's sleek artwork.

Edited by LordBraxton, 15 March 2015 - 04:13 PM.

[Troutmonkey]

Burktross, on 15 March 2015 - 04:07 PM, said:

Tried GIMP, but Paint.net is my tool of choice, I just need to re-learn it. I'll install GIMP just in case.
Note: Paint.net is not Ms Paint

Love paint.net. It's like MS paint, but with layers!

Anyway say what you want about being tall being great for firing positions, JJ's can get you high anyway. For this mech height is going to be a real pain with a lot of cover being smaller than it. Smaller mechs have a lot easier time finding cover that will obscure them completely, especially when it comes to hiding from LRMs. This Grasshopper? Yeah it's going to have a real hard time finding good cover.

[XX Sulla XX]

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I did say that in the OP, when I stress that this isnt about the grasshopper being DoA etc. etc.

In the Battletech that I know, assault mechs are considerably larger than heavies.

If we get real, all mechs are incredibly lightweight for their size, and please dont throw any sci fi soft science at me.

The minis often are terribly scaled, but it's pathetic that a video game is managing to do even worse in some cases. The grasshopper comes up to an atlas's chest.

See but you have not proven it is not scaled correctly. All you have shown is its kinda tall. Not really much to go on.

[LordBraxton]

Troutmonkey, on 15 March 2015 - 04:13 PM, said:

Love paint.net. It's like MS paint, but with layers!

Anyway say what you want about being tall being great for firing positions, JJ's can get you high anyway. For this mech height is going to be a real pain with a lot of cover being smaller than it. Smaller mechs have a lot easier time finding cover that will obscure them completely, especially when it comes to hiding from LRMs. This Grasshopper? Yeah it's going to have a real hard time finding good cover.

it keeps looking worse.

The phract is already a large mech, and the grasshopper looks a full weight class heavier.

[LordBraxton]

XX Sulla XX, on 15 March 2015 - 04:15 PM, said:

See but you have not proven it is not scaled correctly. All you have shown is its kinda tall. Not really much to go on.

Atlas height is not kinda tall, it's incredibly so.

click on the resistance page and the mechs grow larger from left to right

this mech is gigantic

do you like the scale of the dragon\quickdraw\centurion? do you like '55 ton scale?'

If so we already disagreed on this topic months ago, and will have to agree to disagree,

Edited by LordBraxton, 15 March 2015 - 04:19 PM.

[XX Sulla XX]

It does not look bad just depends on what you are smart enough to hide behind. What looks easier to hit to you?

Edited by XX Sulla XX, 15 March 2015 - 04:22 PM.

[Redhook]

Burktross, on 15 March 2015 - 03:59 PM, said:

Because that's not the only circumstance in which you'll be fighting. It's acknowledged that for every mech, and for combat in general, firing from above is an advantage.

Also, you don't have pretty pictures.

Back to the topic, you'll more commonly be fighting in cover which amounts to the same elevation, so that's how more people see it at first.

But since you have a greater advantage fighting down, you'll have an even worse time fighting upwards.
Also, you best pray that the torso up and down angle is good.

Again depending on the mech I choose to play, I Bait, I deceive, I stalk. I wait. I target first and seek out components that are compimised or lore the enemy in an area of my advantage and his disadvantage. I don't fight "commonly" homie. There are many ways to skin a cat .It looks like you just want to charge in and play this as you would a Atlas. In this case you are correct . This mech is NOT for you

[Burktross]

XX Sulla XX, on 15 March 2015 - 04:21 PM, said:

It does not look bad just depends on what you are smart enough to hide behind. What looks easier to hit to you?

Cover wont be impossible, but definitely harder to find.

Redhook, on 15 March 2015 - 04:22 PM, said:

Again depending on the mech I choose to play, I Bait, I deceive, I stalk. I wait. I target first and seek out components that are compimised or lore the enemy in an area of my advantage and his disadvantage. I don't fight "commonly" homie. There are many ways to skin a cat .It looks like you just want to charge in and play this as you would a Atlas. In this case you are correct . This mech is NOT for you

So a giant light mech, minus the maneuverability and small size?
I have a Jenner for that!

[XX Sulla XX]

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Cover wont be impossible, but definitely harder to find.

Not going to be hard to find at all.

[Ultimax]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 March 2015 - 04:10 PM, said:

Not sure how me not remembering what quirks the GRG was getting makes me a hypocrite, but hey, since you are always right, I'll take your word for it.

No, not that part.

The part where you harp on the Summoner.

For buffs, for unlocked Endo, for how that is so important for your mech.


When someone else does that for a different mech? "Metawhoring".


That part.

[Troutmonkey]

XX Sulla XX, on 15 March 2015 - 04:21 PM, said:

It does not look bad just depends on what you are smart enough to hide behind. What looks easier to hit to you?

Most cover that tall is usually fairly wide anyway. Finding useful cover that tall on most maps it tough to being with.

[Burktross]

XX Sulla XX, on 15 March 2015 - 04:24 PM, said:

Not going to be hard to find at all.

Burktross, on 15 March 2015 - 04:24 PM, said:

Cover wont be impossible, but definitely harder to find.

[Ted Wayz]

Let's talk about survivability without knowing a mechs hitboxes.

Riiiiiggghhhht.

[Greenjulius]

More surface area is never a good thing. Tall is also not a great thing, because it makes it hard to find cover. I'm sure the mech isn't DOA, but I would like to see people stop saying that an oversized grasshopper is somehow a good thing.