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[Brody319]

LordBraxton, on 16 March 2015 - 02:04 PM, said:

i dont play CW, but I want to get into recording, what works best with MWO?

depends, are you willing to pay for software or not?

[Pjwned]

Nice, 20% heatsink loss on side torso loss was pretty much nothing for the benefits that clan XL engines give, so that might make things a little more even now. It's possible even further nerfs would be justified, but that's a good start to make losing 20% of your engine actually matter and it's not unreasonable to say that is enough of a penalty.

[KuroNyra]

Bulletsponge0, on 16 March 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

I wonder how the survivability of an IS light would be if they were going 106 kph instead of the 140 kph lag shield speed they have?

Shhh, don't kill his argument of Clan Hater... He would lost all the remain of credibility he have... Or had...

[EX S]

Rhent, on 16 March 2015 - 10:50 AM, said:

ROFLMO on the complaints for Clan Light mechs.

Lets put this in perspective:
-IS Light mechs almost exclusively run XL's and when they lose a torso they explode.
-Clan Light mechs that lose a torso lose 20% of heat sinks & speed.

Gee, I wonder what faction would rather trade XL engine losses?

Let's put THIS into perspective:
A total noob (myself) would rather run a 20 ton tissue paper armored masochistic chicken walker (Locust) than use the shoot me sized turtle paced clan lights. Not entirely out of personal preference (because I have learned to love the Locust), but because said 20 ton tissue paper armored masochistic chicken walker consistently performs twice as well with less fuss.

If it would let me go 169KPH in an Adder, I'd take an IS XL any day over what the Adder currently has and what is proposed to be dumped on it.

[Artgathan]

Are people not aware that Light Fusion Engines are 75% of the weight of a STD engine versus on the 50% of the XL? Using a 250 LFE instead of a STD frees 3 tons (versus the XL's 6) and using a 300 LFE frees 5 tons (versus the XL's 9.5). That's not exactly enough to put them on par with Clan XL engines.

An Orion with an LFE 375, endo and max armor will only have ~20 tons free compared to the Timberwolf's ~27 tons (which comes with 5 extra DHS already installed), while each have equal critical slots open (though the T-Wolf gets the advantage of lighter + smaller clan equipment).

[Metus regem]

EX S, on 16 March 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

Let's put THIS into perspective:
A total noob (myself) would rather run a 20 ton tissue paper armored masochistic chicken walker (Locust) than use the shoot me sized turtle paced clan lights. Not entirely out of personal preference (because I have learned to love the Locust), but because said 20 ton tissue paper armored masochistic chicken walker consistently performs twice as well with less fuss.

If it would let me go 169KPH in an Adder, I'd take an IS XL any day over what the Adder currently has and what is proposed to be dumped on it.

Welcome to Club Locust EX S, for pointers I would direct you to a wonderful post by Iraqiwalker in the training grounds called "The underrated Locust"

http://mwomercs.com/...errated-locust/

it is full of tips and tricks.

[Kain Demos]

Artgathan, on 16 March 2015 - 02:14 PM, said:

Are people not aware that Light Fusion Engines are 75% of the weight of a STD engine versus on the 50% of the XL? Using a 250 LFE instead of a STD frees 3 tons (versus the XL's 6) and using a 300 LFE frees 5 tons (versus the XL's 9.5). That's not exactly enough to put them on par with Clan XL engines.

An Orion with an LFE 375, endo and max armor will only have ~20 tons free compared to the Timberwolf's ~27 tons (which comes with 5 extra DHS already installed), while each have equal critical slots open (though the T-Wolf gets the advantage of lighter + smaller clan equipment).

The Orion would also have rapid fire gauss rifles, super short duration and cooler lasers, etc.

[Metus regem]

Artgathan, on 16 March 2015 - 02:14 PM, said:

Are people not aware that Light Fusion Engines are 75% of the weight of a STD engine versus on the 50% of the XL? Using a 250 LFE instead of a STD frees 3 tons (versus the XL's 6) and using a 300 LFE frees 5 tons (versus the XL's 9.5). That's not exactly enough to put them on par with Clan XL engines.

An Orion with an LFE 375, endo and max armor will only have ~20 tons free compared to the Timberwolf's ~27 tons (which comes with 5 extra DHS already installed), while each have equal critical slots open (though the T-Wolf gets the advantage of lighter + smaller clan equipment).

With more hard-locked crit locations, due to not having dynamic armour or structure, as well as fixed Jump Jets (S pods), may or may not have Lower Arm Actuators depending on weapons carried, cannot change engine sizes and lastly is locked into one of the biggest engine sizes in the game. So that line about equal critcal slots open, is a total farce, as the Orion can have standard or Endo, Standard or FF armour and both have dynamic placement depending on what else you want to stuff in there.

[Brody319]

Artgathan, on 16 March 2015 - 02:14 PM, said:

Are people not aware that Light Fusion Engines are 75% of the weight of a STD engine versus on the 50% of the XL? Using a 250 LFE instead of a STD frees 3 tons (versus the XL's 6) and using a 300 LFE frees 5 tons (versus the XL's 9.5). That's not exactly enough to put them on par with Clan XL engines.

An Orion with an LFE 375, endo and max armor will only have ~20 tons free compared to the Timberwolf's ~27 tons (which comes with 5 extra DHS already installed), while each have equal critical slots open (though the T-Wolf gets the advantage of lighter + smaller clan equipment).

Yea and if given the choice between a Clan XL locked, and the IS engines but customizable engines, I would go with the IS engines.

STD engines are more survivable, and a lot of the clans are using an engine that is way to big anyway. yea running 106 in a Stormcrow is nice, but personally I would rather run like 89 after tweak, and use the saved tonnage to mount more firepower.

Timberwolf I would be willing to go down to like about 75 kph after tweak and use the saved tonnage.

[EX S]

Metus regem, on 16 March 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

Welcome to Club Locust EX S, for pointers I would direct you to a wonderful post by Iraqiwalker in the training grounds called "The underrated Locust"

http://mwomercs.com/...errated-locust/

it is full of tips and tricks.

Thanks! I've already lurked around that thread my share of times, and I've mastered my main Locust already.

My second mech (before the Nova) was a Kit Fox, and that was so frustrating I dropped it almost immediately.The only way I found to do well in it was to sit back and fire LRMS which didn't sit right with me. Then I found the glory that was the Locust and almost never looked back. I say almost because I wanted to use an Adder (It's probably my favorite mech design wise), but if the Kit Fox made me want to pull my hair out I can't imagine the horrors the Adder would show me.

Edited by EX S, 16 March 2015 - 02:29 PM.

[Burktross]

Kain Thul, on 16 March 2015 - 02:18 PM, said:

The Orion would also have rapid fire gauss rifles, super short duration and cooler lasers, etc.

Go pilot an Orion.
Just go right now.

Come back to me about its super powers.

[Bulletsponge0]

Artgathan, on 16 March 2015 - 02:14 PM, said:

Are people not aware that Light Fusion Engines are 75% of the weight of a STD engine versus on the 50% of the XL? Using a 250 LFE instead of a STD frees 3 tons (versus the XL's 6) and using a 300 LFE frees 5 tons (versus the XL's 9.5). That's not exactly enough to put them on par with Clan XL engines.

An Orion with an LFE 375, endo and max armor will only have ~20 tons free compared to the Timberwolf's ~27 tons (which comes with 5 extra DHS already installed), while each have equal critical slots open (though the T-Wolf gets the advantage of lighter + smaller clan equipment).

you mean IS can change engines?

wow...must be a nice luxury to have

[Kain Demos]

Burktross, on 16 March 2015 - 02:31 PM, said:

Go pilot an Orion.
Just go right now.

Come back to me about its super powers.

Why would I? The Thunderbolt is vastly superior in every way.

[KuroNyra]

Burktross, on 16 March 2015 - 02:31 PM, said:

Go pilot an Orion.
Just go right now.

Come back to me about its super powers.

Go pilot a Summoner
Just go right now.

Come back to us about its super powers.

Edited by KuroNyra, 16 March 2015 - 02:36 PM.

[Metus regem]

EX S, on 16 March 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

Thanks! I've already lurked around that thread my share of times, and I've mastered my main Locust already.

My second mech (before the Nova) was a Kit Fox, and that was so frustrating I dropped it almost immediately.The only way I found to do well in it was to sit back and fire LRMS which didn't sit right with me. Then I found the glory that was the Locust and almost never looked back. I say almost because I wanted to use an Adder (It's probably my favorite mech design wise), but if the Kit Fox made me want to pull my hair out I can't imagine the horrors the Adder would show me.

My Adder build of choice:

COUGAR-PRIME

She's nothing special, but fin to run.

Edited by Metus regem, 16 March 2015 - 02:39 PM.

[Burktross]

KuroNyra, on 16 March 2015 - 02:36 PM, said:

Go pilot a Summoner
Just go right now.

Come back to us about its super powers.

What?
How is that even relevant? You called the Orion a rapid fire gauss machine. No mention was made about the Summoner.
Lot's of straw men today.

Ehem, on your newly decided topic, the summoner needs quirks? I agree?

[ThrashInc]

I honestly can't even imagine that this is a real suggestion, might as well just make a ST loss kill you.

[Mystere]

Well if we have:

• Clan Mechs = Reskinned IS Mechs
  
• Clan Weapons = IS weapons with different color and sound effects
  
• Clan Equipment = IS Equipment

Then perfect balance will be achieved.

Edited by Mystere, 16 March 2015 - 02:48 PM.

[Burktross]

Mystere, on 16 March 2015 - 02:45 PM, said:

Well if we have:

• Clans Mechs = Reskinned IS Mechs
  
• Clan Weapons = IS weapons with different color and sound effects
  
• Clan Equipment = IS Equipment

Then perfect balance will be achieved.

the clan mechs would be too ugly pls nerf

[BARBAR0SSA]

LordBraxton, on 16 March 2015 - 02:04 PM, said:

i dont play CW, but I want to get into recording, what works best with MWO?

Ok well, I'd hold off on blanket statements calling mechs easy mode, different ballgame in CW. Still a great mech though, however it may anger about half the forums hah. (Kind of like how people thought the 9s wasn't OP at all because in 12 v 12 it didn't get to show off its damage potential before the game was over where in CW with 48 mechs to shoot at it was a monster )

Software wise:

Shadowplay for Nvidia and Raptr(Doesn't work with MWO currently because it's looking for wrong exe from what i've read) are both free and work with your card depending which it is.

There's a few others but they cost money mainly, there are a few free ones that are a bit more complex and ones that are great like Action! recorder. But if you want a simple button push sort of setup the graphics card included with drivers ones should work just fine.

Edited by shad0w4life, 16 March 2015 - 02:52 PM.