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[Tina Benoit]

Hey MechWarriors!

You might notice a change to the quirk design process starting with this patch. We are going to be switching to a more iterative quirk design process for the near future. As such, these quirk changes in general are not as large as some of those that were previously added. We will evaluate the performance of these quirks and make further adjustments in the future as warranted based on the results.

The quirks that are highlighted in white italics are either new or have been changed in the March 17th patch.

Inner Sphere Mechs

Trebuchets

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TBT-3C	TBT-5J	TBT-5N
Additional Structure (RA&LA) +8	Additional Structure (RA&LA) +8	Additional Structure (RA&LA) +8
Additional Structure (RT&LT) +6	Additional Structure (RT&LT) +6	Additional Structure (RT&LT) +6
Additional Structure (RL&LL) +6	Additional Structure (RL&LL) +6	Additional Structure (RL&LL) +6
LRM Family Cooldown +10%	SL/ML/LL Laser Range +20%	Missile Cooldown +10%
LRM Heat Gen -5%	SL/ML/LL Laser Duration -20%	Missile Heat Gen -5%
LRM Family Velocity +5%	SL/ML/LL Heat Gen -20%	Missile Velocity +10%
LRM Family Spread -10%	Missile Cooldown +10%	LRM Spread -5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen -12.5%	Missile Heat Gen -5%	SRM Spread -5%
Laser Duration -12.5%	Torso yaw rate +25%	Energy Heat Gen -12.5%
Acceleration Rate +20%	Arm Movement Rate Yaw +10%	Energy Range +12.5%
Torso yaw rate +25%	Arm Movement Rate Pitch +10%	Laser Duration -12.5%
	Turn Rate +10%	Energy Cooldown +12.5%
	Reverse Speed -10%	Turn Rate +10%
		Torso yaw rate +25%
TBT-7K	TBT-7M	TBT-LoupDeGuerre
Additional Structure (RT&LT) +12	Additional Structure (RA&LA) +8	Additional Structure (RA&LA) +8
Additional Armor (RT&LT) +12	Additional Structure (RT&LT) +6	Additional Armor (RA&LA) +8
Additional Structure (RL&LL) +12	Additional Structure (RL&LL) +6	Additional Structure (RT&LT) +6
AC/5 Cooldown +10%	LRM Cooldown +20%	Additional Structure (RL&LL) +6
Ballistic Cooldown +10%	Missile Cooldown +20%	Missile Cooldown +10%
AC/5 Velocity +10%	LRM Heat Gen -10%	Missile Range +10%
Ballistic Velocity +10%	Missile Heat Gen -10%	Medium Pulse Range +7.5%
PPC Cooldown +10%	NARC Velocity +5%	Energy Range +7.5%
Energy Cooldown +10%	Torso yaw rate +25%	Energy Heat Gen -10%
PPC Heat Gen -10%		Energy Cooldown +10%
Energy Heat Gen -10%		Torso yaw rate +25%
Missile Cooldown +12.5%
Torso yaw rate +25%

Quickdraws

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QKD-4G	QKD-4H	QKD-5K	QKD-IVFOUR
Additional Armor (LA&RA) +10	Additional Armor (LA&RA) +10	Additional Armor (LA&RA) +10	Additional Armor (LA&RA) +10
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +7	Additional Structure (LL&RL) +7	Additional Structure (LL&RL) +7	Additional Structure (LL&RL) +7
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +7	Additional Structure (LT&RT) +7	Additional Structure (LT&RT) +7	Additional Structure (LT&RT) +14
Medium Laser Range +12.5%	Missile Cooldown +20%	Medium Laser Range +12.5%	AC/5 Cooldown +20%
Energy Weapon Range +12.5%	Missile Velocity +5%	Energy Weapon Range +12.5%	Ballistic Cooldown +20%
Medium Laser Heat Gen -12.5%	Missile Heat Gen -10%	Medium Laser Heat Gen -12.5%	Ballistic Velocity +10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen -12.5%	Missile Spread -5%	Energy Weapon Heat Gen -12.5%	SRM Cooldown +10%
Laser Weapon Duration -15%	Medium Laser Cooldown +10%	Large Laser Duration -12.5%	SRM Velocity +5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%	Energy Cooldown +10%	Laser Weapon Duration -12.5%	Energy Cooldown +10%
Missile Cooldown +5%	Energy Heat Gen -12.5%	Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%	Energy Range +20%
Missile Velocity +10%	Torso Yaw Rate +10%		Arm Movement Rate Yaw +35%
Missile Spread -10%	Torso Turn Angle +5		Arm Movement Rate Pitch +35%
Acceleration Rate +5%			Acceleration Rate +25%
Deceleration Rate +5%			Deceleration Rate +25%

Catapults

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CPLT-A1	CPLT-C1	CPLT-C4
Additional Structure (RA&LA) +20	Additional Structure (RA&LA) +10	Additional Structure (RA&LA) +10
Additional Armor (RA&LA) +20	Additional Armor (RA&LA) +10	Additional Armor (RA&LA) +10
Additional Structure (CT) +10	Additional Structure (CT) +10	Additional Structure (CT) +10
Missile Weapon Heat Gen -10%	Additional Structure (LT&RT) +8	Additional Structure (LT&RT) +8
Missile Weapon Cooldown +10%	LRM/15 Cooldown +10%	LRM/20 Cooldown +12.5%
LRM Spread -5%	Missile Weapon Cooldown +10%	Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
SRM Spread -5%	Laser Duration -12.5%	LRM/20 Heat Gen -12.5%
LRM Velocity +5%	Energy Weapon Range +12.5%	Missile Weapon Heat Gen -12.5%
SRM Velocity +5%	Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%	Energy Weapon Range +15%
		Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%

The K2 and Jester are unchanged.

Highlanders

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HGN-732	HGN-733	HGN-733C
Structure Strength (LL&RL) +10	Structure Strength (LL&RL) +10	Structure Strength (LL&RL) +10
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +10	Additional Structure (LT&RT) +10	Additional Structure (LT&RT) +10
Additional Structure (CT) +14	Additional Structure (CT) +14	Additional Structure (CT) +14
Additional Armor (LA&RA) +15	Additional Armor (LA&RA) +15	Additional Armor (LA&RA) +15
Gauss Cooldown +7.5%	AC/10 Cooldown +7.5%	AC/20 Cooldown +5%
Ballistic Cooldown +7.5%	Ballistic Cooldown 7.5%	Ballistic Cooldown 5%
Missile Cooldown +10%	Laser Duration -10%	Ballistic Velocity +7.5%
Laser Duration -10%	Missile Cooldown +10%	Acceleration Rate +5%
Acceleration Rate +5%	Missile Velocity +5%	Deceleration Rate +5%
Deceleration Rate +5%	Acceleration Rate +5%	Turn Rate +5%
Reverse Speed +5%	Deceleration Rate +5%	Speed +5%
Speed +5%	Turn Yaw Amount +5
	Torso Yaw Rate +5%
	Speed +5%
HGN-733P	HGN-HM
Structure Strength (LL&RL) +10	Structure Strength (LL&RL) +10
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +10	Additional Structure (LT&RT) +10
Additional Structure (CT) +14	Additional Structure (CT) +14
Additional Armor (LA&RA) +15	Additional Armor (LA&RA) +30
PPC Velocity +20%	Ballistic Cooldown +10%
Laser Duration -10%	Ballistic Velocity +10%
Energy Range +10%	Laser Duration -10%
Missile Cooldown -10%	Missile Cooldown +10%
Acceleration Rate +5%	Acceleration Rate +7.5%
Deceleration Rate +5%	Deceleration Rate +7.5%
Reverse Speed +5%	Speed +5%
Speed +5%

Clan Mechs

Adders

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ADR-Prime Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (1E)	RT Omnipod (1AMS)	CT Omnipod (1E)	LT Omnipod	LA Omnipod (1E)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +6	Acceleration Rate +2.5%	Acceleration Rate +20%	Acceleration Rate +2.5%	Additional Structure +6	Additional Structure +12	Additional Structure +12
ERPPC Velocity +7.5%	Deceleration Rate +2.5%	Deceleration Rate +20%	Deceleration Rate +2.5%	ERPPC Velocity +7.5%
ERPPC Cooldown +2%	AMS Range +10%	Reverse Speed +10%		ERPPC Cooldown +2%td]

ADR-A Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (1M)	RT Omnipod (1E)	CT Omnipod (1E)	LT Omnipod (1E)	LA Omnipod (1M)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +6	Laser Duration -1%	Acceleration Rate +10%	Laser Duration -1%	Additional Structure +6	Additional Structure +12	Additional Structure +12
LRM Spread -2%		Deceleration Rate +10%		LRM Spread -2%
SRM Spread -2%		Torso Turn Angle +12		SRM Spread -2%
		Torso Yaw Rate +10%

ADR-D Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (1B)	RT Omnipod (1M)	CT Omnipod (1E)	LT Omnipod (1M)	LA Omnipod (1E)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +12	Missile Velocity +2%	Acceleration Rate +10%	Missile Velocity +2%	Additional Structure +6	Additional Structure +12	Additional Structure +12
Ballistic Cooldown +5%		Deceleration Rate +10%		Laser Duration -2%
UAC Velocity +10%		Torso Turn Angle +6
UAC Jam Chance -5%		Torso Yaw Rate +20%

ADR-B Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (1E)	RT Omnipod (1E)	CT Omnipod (1E)	LT Omnipod (1E)	LA Omnipod (1B)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +6	Laser Cooldown +1%	Acceleration Rate +10%	Laser Cooldown +1%	Additional Structure +12	Additional Structure +12	Additional Structure +12[/i]
Energy Cooldown +2%		Deceleration Rate +10%		Ballistic Cooldown +5%
		Turn Rate + 10%		LBX Velocity +10%
				LBX Spread -5%

Ice Ferrets

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IFR-Prime Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (1M)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod	LT Omnipod	LA Omnipod (2E)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Missile Cooldown +2%	Additional Structure +6	Acceleration Rate +20%	Additional Structure +11	Additional Structure +14	Additional Structure +11	Additional Structure +11
LRM Spread -2%	Reverse Speed +2.5%	Deceleration Rate +20%	Reverse Speed +2.5%	ERPPC Velocity +7.5%
SRM Spread -2%		Torso Turn Angle +13		Energy Cooldown +2%
Missile Velocity +2%		Torso Yaw Rate +5%
		Overheat Damage -5%
		Reverse Speed +5%

IFR-A Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (1 AMS /1E)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod (1E)	LT Omnipod	LA Omnipod (1B)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +7	Additional Structure +6	Acceleration Rate +20%	Additional Structure +11	Additional Structure +14	Additional Structure +11	Additional Structure +11
AMS Range +10%	Acceleration Rate +2.5%	Deceleration Rate +20%	Acceleration Rate +2.5%	Ballistic Cooldown +5%
ER Laser Duration -2%	Deceleration Rate +2.5%	Turn Rate +5%	Deceleration Rate +2.5%	Ballistic Velocity +5%
ER Laser Cooldown +2%		Overheat Damage -5%		Ballistic Heat Gen -5%
		ER Laser Duration -2%
		ER Laser Cooldown +2%

IFR-C Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (1M)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod (1E)	LT Omnipod (1M)	LA Omnipod (1M)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +7	Additional Structure +6	Acceleration Rate +20%	Additional Structure +6	Additional Structure +7	Additional Structure +11	Additional Structure +11
Missile Cooldown +2%	Torso Turn Angle +13	Deceleration Rate +20%	Missile Cooldown +1%	Missile Cooldown +1%
LRM Spread -2%		Torso Turn Angle +13	LRM Spread -1%	LRM Spread -1%
SRM Spread -2%		Torso Yaw Rate +5%	SRM Spread -1%	SRM Spread -1%
Missile Range +2%		Overheat Damage -5%	Missile Velocity +1%	Missile Velocity +1%
		ER Laser Duration -2%
		ER Laser Cooldown +2%

IFR-D Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (2E)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod (1E)	LT Omnipod	LA Omnipod (1 AMS / 1E)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +7	Additional Structure +6	Acceleration Rate +20%	Additional Structure +6	Additional Structure +7	Additional Structure +11	Additional Structure +11
Pulse Laser Duration -1%	Overheat Damage -2.5%	Deceleration Rate +20%	Overheat Damage -2.5%	AMS Range +10%
		Torso Turn Angle +13		Pulse Laser Duration -1%
		Torso Yaw Rate +5%
		Overheat Damage -5%
		Pulse Laser Duration -2%
		Pulse Laser Cooldown +2%

Summoners

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SMN-Prime Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (1E)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod	LT Omnipod (1M)	LA Omnipod (1B)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +11	Additional Structure +8	Acceleration Rate +20%	LRM Spread -2%	Additional Structure +11
ERPPC Velocity +7.5%	Acceleration Rate +5%	Deceleration Rate +20%	SRM Spread -2%	LBX Cooldown +5%
ER PPC Range +2%	Deceleration Rate +5%	Speed +5%	Missile Velocity +2%	Ballistic Cooldown +5%
Energy Cooldown +2%				LBX Velocity +10%
				LBX Spread -5%
				Arm Movement Rate Pitch +2%

SMN-B Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (2M)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod	LT Omnipod (1AMS/1M)	LA Omnipod (2M)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
LRM Spread -1%	Additional Structure +8	Acceleration Rate +10%	AMS Range +10%	LRM Spread -1%
SRM Spread -1%	Reverse Rate +5%	Deceleration Rate +10%	NARC Cooldown +2%	SRM Spread -1%
LRM Velocity +1%		Reverse Rate +5%	NARC Velocity +2%	LRM Velocity +1%
SRM Velocity +1%		Speed +5%		SRM Velocity +1%

SMN-C Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (2E)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod	LT Omnipod (1M)	LA Omnipod (1B)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Laser Duration -2%	Additional Structure +8	Acceleration Rate +10%	Streak SRM Cooldown +2%	Additional Structure +11
Energy Heat Gen -4%	Turn Rate +5%	Deceleration Rate +10%		UAC Cooldown +5%
		Turn Rate +5%		Ballistic Cooldown +5%
		Speed +5%		UAC Velocity +10%
				UAC Jam Chance -5%
				Arm Movement Rate Pitch +2%

SMN-D Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (2E)	RT Omnipod (1AMS/1B)	CT Omnipod	LT Omnipod (1AMS/1B)	LA Omnipod (2E)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
ER Laser Cooldown +1%	AMS Range +15%	Acceleration Rate +10%	AMS Range +15%	ER Laser Cooldown +1%
Laser Cooldown +1%	Machine Gun Range +2%	Deceleration Rate +10%	Machine Gun Range +2%	Laser Cooldown +1%
		Torso Yaw Rate +5%
		Torso Turn Angle +5
		Speed +5%

Gargoyles

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GAR-Prime Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (1B/1M)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod (1E)	LT Omnipod (1AMS)	LA Omnipod (1B/1M)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +13	Reverse Speed +2%	Acceleration Rate +5%	AMS Range +10%	Additional Structure +13
Additional Armor +13		Deceleration Rate +5%	Reverse Speed +2%	Additional Armor +13
Ballistic Cooldown +10%		Reverse Speed +4%		Ballistic Cooldown +10%
LBX Velocity +10%				LBX Velocity +10%
LBX Spread -3.5%				LBX Spread -3.5%
Missile Velocity +2%				Missile Velocity +2%
LRM Spread -2%				LRM Spread -2%
SRM Spread -2%				SRM Spread -2%

GAR-A Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (2E)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod	LT Omnipod	LA Omnipod (4E)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +7	Torso Yaw Angle +1	Acceleration Rate +5%	Torso Yaw Angle +1	Additional Structure +7
ERPPC Velocity +7.5%	Torso Yaw Rate +2%	Deceleration Rate +5%	Torso Yaw Rate +2%
ERPPC Range +2%		Torso Yaw Angle +3
Energy Cooldown +2%		Torso Yaw Rate +4%

GAR-C Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (6E)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod	LT Omnipod	LA Omnipod (1B)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +7	Turn Rate +2%	Acceleration Rate +5%	Turn Rate +2%	Additional Structure +13
		Deceleration Rate +5%		Additional Armor +13
		Turn Rate +4%		Ballistic Cooldown +10%
				UAC Velocity +10%
				UAC Jam Chance -5%

GAR-D Omnipods

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RA Omnipod (2E)	RT Omnipod	CT Omnipod (2E)	LT Omnipod	LA Omnipod (2E)	RL Omnipod	LL Omnipod
Additional Structure +7	Acceleration Rate +2.5%	Acceleration Rate +10%	Acceleration Rate +2.5%	Additional Structure +7
Additional Armor +13	Deceleration Rate +2.5%	Deceleration Rate +10%	Deceleration Rate +2.5%	Additional Armor +13

[FupDup]

I like that the Clan mechs are being done on a per-Omnipod basis. I also like that many identical pods, such as CT's, are being somewhat differentiated (even if not much).

...But the values on most of them seem pretty darn low. -1% laser duration? 2% missile velocity? Quirks like that won't really change the mechs' effectiveness very much.


I will say however that the +12 internal structure on the Puma's legs is pretty strong. Nearly all of the weapon quirks however...not so much.

Edited by FupDup, 16 March 2015 - 12:19 PM.

[Rebas Kradd]

Cool.

Quick thought -

If you'd like to make the quirks more immersive and fun for the BT enthusiasts, you should have someone in-house come up with creative roleplaying tidbits to explain them. Such as -

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The Trebuchet-7K comes equipped with yadda yadda experimental system to provide it with high cooldowns on all weapon systems.

...without breaching lore, of course.

[Kain Demos]

The weapons ones did not blow my skirt up but some of these structure/armor and general agility bonuses are really nice. The Ice Ferret with 20% accel/deccel? I cannot wait for that though I bet I will not notice the weapons related quirks.

The Gargoyle at 15% accel/deccel looks nice too--hopefully it gets its movement profile altered as well.

[Xolin]

anyone else see these as....mediocre?

[Summon3r]

uhh are the clan quirks typos? 1 and 2%'s really? and no change in movement type for GAR from huge to large?

well i am no longer excited clan quirks in any way shape or form, i mean those lbx bonus's alone should cause a massive increase in the use of the Summoners and Gargoyles right? guess if PGI keeps on its course of least used clan mechs for quirks these 4 will be up again for a requirking.

[Alistair Winter]

I like where this is going, but...

Tina Benoit, on 16 March 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

The K2 and Jester are unchanged.

Tina Benoit, on 16 March 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

The K2 and Jester are unchanged.

Tina Benoit, on 16 March 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

The K2 and Jester are unchanged.

Tina Benoit, on 16 March 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

The K2 and Jester are unchanged.

Tina Benoit, on 16 March 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

The K2

Tina Benoit, on 16 March 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

unchanged.

[Goose]

'Cause we need moar "mediocre to OP" tweaks, like for the Firestarters?

[Russ Bullock]

Remember the Clan omnipod amounts are low because players can stack with other pods

[Mcgral18]

Xolin, on 16 March 2015 - 12:14 PM, said:

anyone else see these as....mediocre?

Brah, 4% more MG range!

Less overheat damage?


Well, the Pay-For Suckonner arm has 5% less heat, which is arguably the third best quirk on this list.

Structure will be handy.

[Revis Volek]

FupDup, on 16 March 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

I like that the Clan mechs are being done on a per-Omnipod basis. I also like that many identical pods, such as CT's, are being somewhat differentiated (even if not much).

...But the values on most of them seem pretty darn low. -1% laser duration? 2% missile velocity? Quirks like that won't really change the mechs' effectiveness very much.


I will say however that the +12 internal structure on the Puma's legs is pretty strong. Nearly all of the weapon quirks however...not so much.

I see no point in whatsoever in making your DEV's work to put in a 1-4% quirk as little or as much work as it may be. 5% or it a waste and not needed and even that is arguable IMO. We dont need some fluff and fancy things thrown on these mechs to make us feel better, though some may appreciate it, Giving them things that will make the survive better is what is needed and i thank you greatly for. That is the issue with half if not more of the bad clan chassis'.

Granted a 4% cooldown coupled with the 10% from skills is now 14% which is helping some i guess. I mean its not worse so we cant complain too much. lolz well maybe with cooldown it is....or could be.

Edited by DarthRevis, 16 March 2015 - 12:29 PM.

[Corbenik]

Question, whats lrm spread mean less AOE? or more? or tighter groups?

[FupDup]

Mcgral18, on 16 March 2015 - 12:22 PM, said:

Brah, 4% more MG range!

Less overheat damage?


Well, the Pay-For Suckonner arm has 5% less heat, which is arguably the third best quirk on this list.

Dude, don't underestimate my 2% energy cooldown and 2% laser durations stacked together on my Adder!

[Mcgral18]

Russ Bullock, on 16 March 2015 - 12:19 PM, said:

Remember the Clan omnipod amounts are low because players can stack with other pods

1+1 isn't exactly game changing...

[FupDup]

Corbenik, on 16 March 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

Question, whats lrm spread mean less AOE? or more? or tighter groups?

It makes them tighter, sort of like what smaller launchers already do.

[gl0w]

Summoner quirks will at least make it interesting to build for again. Still needs more/better omnipods to really fit into a niche role.

[Kain Demos]

FupDup, on 16 March 2015 - 12:23 PM, said:

Dude, don't underestimate my 2% energy cooldown and 2% laser durations stacked together on my Adder!

Coming soon to a battlefield near you: Adders with CERLLs with JUST a 1.4s duration!!!

[Quicksilver Aberration]

The maneuverability and structure quirks are in a nice place (I still think the Adder needs those structure boosts for the arm moved to the torso). Though you could untie agility from engine rating and you wouldn't have these sorts of problems.....

The weapon quirks are finally taking advantage of useful quirks like missile velocity/spread or UAC jam rates, as well as family quirks finally, hopefully we will see more of these.

I am a little underwhelmed with the Adder and Clan weapon quirks overall and especially the Catapult quirks but there are definitely some improved direction with the types of weapon quirks.

Edited by WM Quicksilver, 16 March 2015 - 12:28 PM.

[Alienized]

Energy weapon cooldown +15%

does that mean they need longer to refire or shorter...

[TercieI]

Smaller and more iterative.

GOOD.