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#21 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 06:43 PM

View Postluxebo, on 16 March 2015 - 06:07 PM, said:

PLEASE PGI PLEASE

Seriously if every mech had the strength of:
Lights: Arctic Cheetah

i dont think you can say that until its released,
there is no way for us to know how big it will be,
after all just look at the GrassHopper,

#22 Evan20k

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 06:51 PM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 16 March 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

i think most would like to see weapon Quirks doubled,
i talked with Russ on Twitter and he Said,


its possible hes just testing the water with the Structure and Acceleration Quirks first,
and the weapon Quirks are just placeholders for when the above data comes in,


Nah that sounds far too reasonable. Throw more entitled tantrums!

#23 process

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 07:25 PM

It's been said before, Clan quirks really need to only affect the weapons mounted on their pod. Otherwise you get the problem that PGI is trying to solve, with things like energy buffs potentially multiplying across 6, 7, 8 energy hardpoints. The current solution disproportionately affects mechs and pods with fewer hardpoints.

#24 kf envy

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 07:26 PM

PGI just added a new Clan quirks

∞% players send in support tickets for an refund on the WaveIII
30%-50% clan players get pissed at PGI
15% players uninstall MWO and get there refund

russ seems to read his twitter so maybe the best way to let him know how unhappy we our with these quirks would be to let him know.
https://twitter.com/russ_bullock

Edited by kf envy, 16 March 2015 - 07:32 PM.


#25 Xetelian

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 08:37 PM

View Postkf envy, on 16 March 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

PGI just added a new Clan quirks

∞% players send in support tickets for an refund on the WaveIII
30%-50% clan players get pissed at PGI
15% players uninstall MWO and get there refund

russ seems to read his twitter so maybe the best way to let him know how unhappy we our with these quirks would be to let him know.
https://twitter.com/russ_bullock




It'd be to much to ask that they read their game's forum.

#26 Jackie Hawker

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 08:50 PM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 16 March 2015 - 06:43 PM, said:

i dont think you can say that until its released,
there is no way for us to know how big it will be,
after all just look at the GrassHopper,

considering it's capabilities according to lore and the revealed hardpoints the Hankyu is indeed quite comparable to the firestarter, and in some ways arguably better, with clan weight saving tech and superior DHS it's not all that farfetched to think that quad ERML Hankyus are going to dominate the meta the instant they drop.

Edited by Tecar, 16 March 2015 - 08:50 PM.


#27 Xetelian

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 08:53 PM

View PostTecar, on 16 March 2015 - 08:50 PM, said:

considering it's capabilities according to lore and the revealed hardpoints the Hankyu is indeed quite comparable to the firestarter, and in some ways arguably better, with clan weight saving tech and superior DHS it's not all that farfetched to think that quad ERML Hankyus are going to dominate the meta the instant they drop.


a MLX can do 4 ERMLs

Just so you know.

#28 John80sk

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 09:02 PM

So... basically... The Summoner is getting nerfed? Er, thanks PGI, I guess...

Not to mention this system basically encourages boating a single weapon system as it's the only way to get a semi-significant increase.

Seriously, don't even release this, go back to the drawing board.

View PostXetelian, on 16 March 2015 - 08:53 PM, said:


a MLX can do 4 ERMLs

Just so you know.
There's a big difference between doing something and doing something well.

#29 ThrashInc

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 09:05 PM

View PostTecar, on 16 March 2015 - 08:50 PM, said:

considering it's capabilities according to lore and the revealed hardpoints the Hankyu is indeed quite comparable to the firestarter, and in some ways arguably better, with clan weight saving tech and superior DHS it's not all that farfetched to think that quad ERML Hankyus are going to dominate the meta the instant they drop.

Energy Heat Generation -15%
Energy Duration -15%
C-ER ML Heat Generation -15%
C-ER ML Duration -15%

#30 Ursh

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 10:22 PM

I guess I won't be taking my 3 summoners out to finish mastering them after all.

I paid cbills for them, not really being in love with the timberwolf and not wanting to meta too much. Don't I look like a fool?

#31 kf envy

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:07 PM

View PostXetelian, on 16 March 2015 - 08:37 PM, said:




It'd be to much to ask that they read their game's forum.

i believe it is.

#32 Alistair Winter

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:25 PM

View PostCaliburZero, on 16 March 2015 - 02:59 PM, said:

If these buffs are as pathetic as this is seeming, then Support is going to have a long talk with me about refunds.

Any update on that? :)

#33 Shredhead

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:31 PM

ITT -> whiny entitled brats.

#34 charov

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:37 PM

Guys, stop talking about refunds. It's just silly. Also, dear IS-only players, can you avoid trolling, please? Especially if you haven't played the Clan mechs affected by these quirks.

I think that everyone appreciate the effort of PGI to avoid another thunderbolt incident and also, the idea of pod-related quirks is very interesting. However, they will gave the wrong quirks this evening. I have already mentioned the 2x ER PPC Adder in other threads, but let's do this again: what's the point in a cooldown quirk in a mech with heat efficiency <1? Give it a heat generation quirk, it's not so difficult!

So, I hope they will finish off this quirk pass much better in the next patch, addressing most of our concerns.

#35 Manei Domini Krigg

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:44 PM

Clans almost balanced vs IS

PGI add some quirks to clans. Clan-players wine! Where is logic?
Your clanmechs will be some better. You not nerfed...

#36 charov

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:48 PM

View PostKrigg, on 16 March 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

Clans almost balanced vs IS

PGI add some quirks to clans. Clan-players wine! Where is logic?
Your clanmechs will be some better. You not nerfed...

Actually some of them are nerfed. Have you checked the current quirks on the summoner?

Btw, let's make a deal: let's exchange the quirks on the panther with the ones on the Adder. You can have the Clan XL too.

#37 Johnny Z

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:55 PM

I took the reward Adder out for a spin before I sold it. I got match top damage with no modules and not even basic skills.( I may be partly kidding in the reply but I am serious about match top damage and no skills etc.)

The Adder is a peek a boo light mech with a massive 30 point alpha, with extreme range. The quirks make it way to OP. These clan quirks are way way to much for easy mode.

Edited by Johnny Z, 16 March 2015 - 11:59 PM.


#38 CaliburZero

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 12:04 AM

View PostJohnny Z, on 16 March 2015 - 11:55 PM, said:

I took the reward Adder out for a spin before I sold it. I got match top damage with no modules and not even basic skills.( I may be partly kidding in the reply but I am serious about match top damage and no skills etc.)

The Adder is a peek a boo light mech with a massive 30 point alpha, with extreme range. The quirks make it way to OP. These clan quirks are way way to much for easy mode.


wat

#39 charov

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 12:13 AM

View PostCaliburZero, on 17 March 2015 - 12:04 AM, said:


wat

He's just a troll, don't worry. The pedo-gargoyle has probably touched him and now he hates the Clans ^_^

#40 Johnny Z

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 12:16 AM

An adder with no basics and no modules getting top match damage, isnt trolling its showing that they dont suck.

The light mech Adder using dual ERPPC's with a 30 point alpha with extreme range is OP.

Its funny Clan players cry about the Firestarter with 32 alpha at 300 meters max think the 30 Point Alpha at 900 meters of the Adder is weak. The range disparity is actually ALOT worse than this but I dont know the exact ranges off hand.

Get real pro snivelers.

Edited by Johnny Z, 17 March 2015 - 12:19 AM.






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