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#61 Revis Volek

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:44 PM

View PostLordMelvin, on 17 March 2015 - 06:29 AM, said:

I think it's entirely reasonable to explore the effects of mobility quirks first before we start handing out weapon quirks. As mentioned earlier in the thread the "Fist of Thor" thunderbolts running around were a result of throwing quirks to the wolves before testing them out. Once people experiment with the quriked mechs and a consensus is reached regarding the new effectiveness we'll probably see the weapon quirks get doubled.


tl;dr: Calm your ****, not everything needs to be DOA



I agree, the Clan mechs dont have an issue with killing things so why even throw weapon quirks our way first? I would rather see structure and Mobilty to the mechs that need it like slow lights and such.

But a 4% cooldown on a weapon that is already too hot is nothing but a nerf.

#62 Xetelian

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:47 PM

View PostShredhead, on 17 March 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

No, that's your strawman. Throwing a hissy fit, demanding someone to get fired and taking a refund all the while insulting PGI and certain persons is rude. It's whiny, entitled, bratty behaviour.



Not only do I not insult PGI, ask for a refund, or threw a hissy fit and I haven't seen much of that besides in this thread by you.

#63 Yokaiko

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:51 PM

View PostProf RJ Gumby, on 17 March 2015 - 12:41 AM, said:


The first time I see a mmo dev actually deciding to alter things step-by-step and realize the effects or their actions may not be exactly what they plan them to do. MMO devs usually prefer turning everything around with one 'revolutionary' patch that throws half of game balances and imbalances into the trashcan and replaces it with a set of other balances and imbalances. Been there, seen that. No fun.


Yeah, just like jump jets, and the Paulconomy™, and colisions........

View PostProf RJ Gumby, on 17 March 2015 - 12:41 AM, said:

I would advise some people to take a deep breath. You may need to wait a bit more, but there's a bigger chance the balance won't get completely screwed once the changes come. Isn't that good? I think it's good.


No because if you don't scream and they go live with it, its that way for YEARS.

View PostProf RJ Gumby, on 17 March 2015 - 12:41 AM, said:

Dunno about Summoner though. By the rate this thing is(not) played, nerfing anything about it may in fact not be the best decision.
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EDIT: don't get me wrong, I've not just got here to preach clanners. I've really like running MLXes and would love to see something done to their arms. You know, those two hitbox-wise oversized limbs that have all the mech's weapon hardpoints and fall off all the time? I need to have patience too.



Summoner hell, its at least usable

Gargoyle? Did you see the prime arms? Great 20% increase in rate of fire on a mech that can only carry a couple tons of ammo like three if you keep the SRM, strip the slas AND a half ton of armor.

......how the hell is that going to help?

#64 Shredhead

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:59 PM

View PostXetelian, on 17 March 2015 - 01:47 PM, said:



Not only do I not insult PGI, ask for a refund, or threw a hissy fit and I haven't seen much of that besides in this thread by you.

Look here. I actually don't even mind your OP, because you weren't throwing a tantrum. Unlike others, in other threads. It made me angry.

View PostCaliburZero, on 16 March 2015 - 02:59 PM, said:

If these buffs are as pathetic as this is seeming, then Support is going to have a long talk with me about refunds.

View Postkf envy, on 16 March 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

PGI just added a new Clan quirks

∞% players send in support tickets for an refund on the WaveIII
30%-50% clan players get pissed at PGI
15% players uninstall MWO and get there refund

russ seems to read his twitter so maybe the best way to let him know how unhappy we our with these quirks would be to let him know.
https://twitter.com/russ_bullock


#65 Xetelian

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 02:00 PM

View PostShredhead, on 17 March 2015 - 01:59 PM, said:

Look here. I actually don't even mind your OP, because you weren't throwing a tantrum. Unlike others, in other threads. It made me angry.



Why not perpetuate the stupidity by getting overly mad about it.

Edited by Xetelian, 17 March 2015 - 02:04 PM.


#66 Lily from animove

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 03:17 PM

View PostThrashInc, on 16 March 2015 - 03:46 PM, said:




The response on twitter is that we should not act as if these quirks make our mechs worse and that we are attempting to avoid powercreep. All I really see is an Adder that I would still never purchase and that my CW dropdeck remains SCR SCR SCR TBR/HBR.



and the only way to change this dropdeck is to nerf tbr and scr's because otherwise you will never find a buff not being a powercreep that will make people actually go for a non tbr and scr heavy laodout.

Edited by Lily from animove, 17 March 2015 - 03:17 PM.


#67 Widowmaker1981

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 03:19 PM

View PostLily from animove, on 17 March 2015 - 03:17 PM, said:



and the only way to change this dropdeck is to nerf tbr and scr's because otherwise you will never find a buff not being a powercreep that will make people actually go for a non tbr and scr heavy laodout.


Yes, you will. Its called the release of wave 3

#68 CaliburZero

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 03:37 PM

View PostShredhead, on 17 March 2015 - 01:59 PM, said:

Look here. I actually don't even mind your OP, because you weren't throwing a tantrum. Unlike others, in other threads. It made me angry.


If the ridiculously stupid clan quirks was the only thing they were kicking clans in the teeth with since you decided to quote me, yeah... you do know of the XL engine nerf that's also coming our way, right? So yeah, between those two things you can bet people who have dropped hundreds of our cash on stuff that is DOA, and then watching as incredibly stupid blanket-nerf balancing happens, you can bet there are plenty that want their money back.

I personally, will wait to see if the XL nerf actually happens. As a paying customer, getting mad on the forums doesn't do much. If you want someone to listen, you vote with your wallet.

#69 Davers

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 04:17 PM

View PostWidowmaker1981, on 17 March 2015 - 03:19 PM, said:


Yes, you will. Its called the release of wave 3

That is hardly addressing the issue though.





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