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#1 legionofvega

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:03 PM

PGI - The Centurion arm remake was one thing but the completely gimped AC5 arms on the Jagermech and the super tiny AC2' are completely unacceptable. We need to figure out a better solution. I don't even want to play some of my mechs because they look so terrible now.

In a nod to Russ and PGI looking at this, I've toned down the title wording.

Edited by legionofvega, 17 March 2015 - 05:35 PM.


#2 stjobe

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:08 PM

Does anyone at PGI thinks this

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looks good?

Or for that matter, anything even remotely resembling the gun arms on this:

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You have got to stop destroying your beautiful 'mech models with this ridiculous "variable geometry".

Just look at the VCR boxes on the Catapult. Look at the electric-plug arm of the Cent. Look at the ridiculous right arm of the PNT-8Z.

And look, just take a good long look at that Firebrand up there.

Tell me you're proud of it.

Tell me you think it looks good.

#3 Metus regem

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:11 PM

View Poststjobe, on 17 March 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:

Does anyone at PGI thinks this

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looks good?

Or for that matter, anything even remotely resembling the gun arms on this:

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You have got to stop destroying your beautiful 'mech models with this ridiculous "variable geometry".

Just look at the VCR boxes on the Catapult. Look at the electric-plug arm of the Cent. Look at the ridiculous right arm of the PNT-8Z.

And look, just take a good long look at that Firebrand up there.

Tell me you're proud of it.

Tell me you think it looks good.


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#4 Sarlic

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:19 PM

View Poststjobe, on 17 March 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:

Does anyone at PGI thinks this

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looks good?

Or for that matter, anything even remotely resembling the gun arms on this:

Posted Image

You have got to stop destroying your beautiful 'mech models with this ridiculous "variable geometry".

Just look at the VCR boxes on the Catapult. Look at the electric-plug arm of the Cent. Look at the ridiculous right arm of the PNT-8Z.

And look, just take a good long look at that Firebrand up there.

Tell me you're proud of it.

Tell me you think it looks good.


Everytime i see this i burst out laughing. My tears are rolling..

No matter what you say, this has to be aside from the Cats the biggest cometical joke ever.

It looks like a big finger with a tiny bat.

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Edited by Sarlic, 17 March 2015 - 01:20 PM.


#5 KraftySOT

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:21 PM

On one hand, that looks terrible as far as big stompy robots go.

On the other. That looks like a 45mm or larger. Thats perfectly within the realm of being an AC10 or AC5 or even AC2

#6 Tennex

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:21 PM

Mooo

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#7 C E Dwyer

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:23 PM

I think I might have to cancel some pre purchases over this...

I rarely take my JM's out the box these days but FFS this is going to far

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:24 PM

View Postlegionofvega, on 17 March 2015 - 01:03 PM, said:

PGI - The Centurion arm remake was one thing but the completely gimped AC5 arms on the Jagermech and the super tiny AC2' are completely unacceptable. We need to figure out a better solution. I don't even want to play some of my mechs because they look so terrible now.


Could not care less. Please fix hitreg.

#9 KraftySOT

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:26 PM

I do have to admit that they look terrible though.

#10 Kiiyor

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:35 PM

My god, that is terrible.

"WE DO THINGS BY THE BOOK"

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I cannot work with this pea shooter.

#11 dimachaerus

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:35 PM

View PostF4T 4L, on 17 March 2015 - 01:24 PM, said:

Could not care less. Please fix hitreg.


Artists don't work on Hitreg man.


Coders fix Hitreg.

#12 Simbacca

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:40 PM

These auto cannon changes look absolutely terrible. They literally wreck the Jagermech...

#13 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:42 PM

View Postdimachaerus, on 17 March 2015 - 01:35 PM, said:


Artists don't work on Hitreg man.


Coders fix Hitreg.


Since when do their coders fix anything? ... Seems to me their very capable [/sarcasm] coders started working on mech art as well. Epic fail patch.

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:42 PM

Fix the catapult as well while you're busy reverting all these changes...

#15 Zen Idiot

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:47 PM

its bad. the 'artist' who did it should feel bad. if they wanted something to do they should have just swept the floor or painted a wall. ever hear "if it ain't broke don't fix it"....

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:50 PM

Don't really see the problem. ac2s are something similar to 25-30mm cannons, even if a pilot, standing, took up the space from where the torso starts to the top of the cockpit, the guns would be waaaay too big for their size, even after the redo on their scale. The centurion ac2s though, those are kinda silly looking, more like machine guns then anything else. Does it look long barrel-scary? Eh, maybe. Are they about the right length for their pathetic range compared to modern weapons? Yeah. Is the diameter of the barrel way too big for something in those ranges of cannon? Yeah, way too big. Smaller is better anyway, don't see what the issue is.

#17 Tennex

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:55 PM

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 02:00 PM

View Postjlawsl, on 17 March 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

Don't really see the problem. ac2s are something similar to 25-30mm cannons, even if a pilot, standing, took up the space from where the torso starts to the top of the cockpit, the guns would be waaaay too big for their size, even after the redo on their scale. The centurion ac2s though, those are kinda silly looking, more like machine guns then anything else. Does it look long barrel-scary? Eh, maybe. Are they about the right length for their pathetic range compared to modern weapons? Yeah. Is the diameter of the barrel way too big for something in those ranges of cannon? Yeah, way too big. Smaller is better anyway, don't see what the issue is.


The issue is that it looks hideously stupid on a big giant stompy robot to have teeny-tiny guns when they are supposed to be big long barreled cannons in long cooling jackets, surrounded by a thick armored shroud to protect them from weapons fire and impact from slamming them into opposing mechs.

And I think you have your ideas of what size AC's are in milimeters a bit wrong, 20-25mm is what MACHINEGUNS fire.

I refer you to: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Autocannon

Yes, some ac2's may be 30mm guns, but they'd operate more like the gimped Ultras the clans get rather than the big slug it spits out ingame

#19 Metus regem

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 02:00 PM

View PostTennex, on 17 March 2015 - 01:55 PM, said:

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#20 Armorine

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 02:49 PM

..... Wtfdid they do.... That's a major let down man!!!!

Also I remember reading somewhere the ac5 was was 120mm.... Ok Grayson Carlyes ac5 was





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