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[Szkarlat M]

MSI GS30 with the dock?

[MrEdweird]

I use an ASUS ROG G751JY - i7-4720HQ / GTX 980M.
Equivalent from ASUS is G750JY if you prefer the older chassis. Much more expensive but really good for the money. Runs cool, goes to about 80 degrees when gaming for hours. Quiet, good keyboard, great screen.
Runs MWO on max setting with MSAA on and vsync at 60fps. And it runs at 60fps. I don't know how much further it will go because of vsync . Also, G-SYNC will supposedly soon be supported by the G751 because of some sort of software-level feature support.

Would not recommend the Y50, terrible non-cooling system. It's good for the money, though. That thing goes to 90 degrees temps, which are fine and it will function without a problem but life expectancy is therefore reduced.

Edited by Edweird, 26 May 2015 - 04:09 AM.

[Catamount]

The Y50 is capable of getting much hotter still. It just thermally throttles so that you only lose performance instead of killing your machine.

[MrEdweird]

Catamount, on 26 May 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:

The Y50 is capable of getting much hotter still. It just thermally throttles so that you only lose performance instead of killing your machine.

Right, which makes the money you paid for it over the lesser models not well spent. You're literally bleeding performance. For the thing to throttle it has to reach about 95 degrees, which is just ... not good for a computer.

[M A S E]

Just run something equivelant to the i5-2500k and gtx 660ti and you will be fine.

[Lord Letto]

M A S E, on 27 May 2015 - 01:54 AM, said:

Just run something equivelant to the i5-2500k and gtx 660ti and you will be fine.

Good Luck Finding a Laptop CPU that can keep up with a 2500K
as for GPU, Looking at Toms Hardware GPU Hierarchy, the 660Ti is on the same Level as the 880M with the 970M a Step up from it followed by the 980M a Step above that.
here's a MSI GT70 2PE-1040US Dominator Pro for $4K Canadian: http://www.newegg.ca...E16834152576CVF
i7-4930MX (3GHz Quad Core, While the i5-2500K is a 3.3GHz Quad)
880M = Same Level as the 660Ti
http://www.newegg.ca...E16834152576CVF

For you Americans:
DELL Alienware ALW18-34490sLV for $5100
i7-4940MX (3.1GHz, Still 0.2GHz Short of a 2500K)
880M, 660Ti Equivalent
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834300726

[xWiredx]

Lord Letto, on 27 May 2015 - 06:35 AM, said:

Good Luck Finding a Laptop CPU that can keep up with a 2500K
as for GPU, Looking at Toms Hardware GPU Hierarchy, the 660Ti is on the same Level as the 880M with the 970M a Step up from it followed by the 980M a Step above that.
here's a MSI GT70 2PE-1040US Dominator Pro for $4K Canadian: http://www.newegg.ca...E16834152576CVF
i7-4930MX (3GHz Quad Core, While the i5-2500K is a 3.3GHz Quad)
880M = Same Level as the 660Ti
http://www.newegg.ca...E16834152576CVF

For you Americans:
DELL Alienware ALW18-34490sLV for $5100
i7-4940MX (3.1GHz, Still 0.2GHz Short of a 2500K)
880M, 660Ti Equivalent
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834300726

To match an i7 2500K at stock clocks, an i7 4720MQ (or HQ) would do the job. Then there are still the 48xx and 49xx mobile i7s to consider. A person savvy enough to unlock their manufacturer's BIOS and properly cool the system could also unlock these chips for some limited overclocking.

Toward the GPU end, yeah, an 880M or better would go toe to toe with the 660Ti. I have an 870M and it does require slightly lower settings than my single 660Ti did.

Edited by xWiredx, 27 May 2015 - 08:08 AM.

[Lord Letto]

xWiredx, on 27 May 2015 - 08:06 AM, said:

To match an i7 2500K at stock clocks, an i7 4720MQ (or HQ) would do the job. Then there are still the 48xx and 49xx mobile i7s to consider. A person savvy enough to unlock their manufacturer's BIOS and properly cool the system could also unlock these chips for some limited overclocking.

Toward the GPU end, yeah, an 880M or better would go toe to toe with the 660Ti. I have an 870M and it does require slightly lower settings than my single 660Ti did.

I was going for Base Clocks, Not Turbo Clocks. if Turbo mode could be toggled on or off and work on all cores like a OC instead of just 1 core or whatever then a lot of the Mobile I7s would beat the i5-2500K

but going for Base Clocks Vs Base Clocks, The Closest i7 mobile Quad Core to the i5-2500K (3.3GHz) is:
i7-4940MX (3.1GHz)
i7-4930MX (3.0 GHz)
i7-3940XM (3.0 GHz)

[xWiredx]

Lord Letto, on 27 May 2015 - 08:32 AM, said:

I was going for Base Clocks, Not Turbo Clocks. if Turbo mode could be toggled on or off and work on all cores like a OC instead of just 1 core or whatever then a lot of the Mobile I7s would beat the i5-2500K

but going for Base Clocks Vs Base Clocks, The Closest i7 mobile Quad Core to the i5-2500K (3.3GHz) is:
i7-4940MX (3.1GHz)
i7-4930MX (3.0 GHz)
i7-3940XM (3.0 GHz)

Ah, yeah, definitely. I think the turbo clocks for 1 and 2 active cores are probably pretty relevant for MWO, too, though. The IPC increase between SB and HW is something to note, too. You can definitely compare a HW chip to a SB chip that is 200-300MhZ faster. Something to consider.

[Lord Letto]

just for the heck of it, I just looked up for PassMark Scores to find Mobile Chips higher than the i5-2500K (@ 3.3GHz=6469), Results:
5 just Above:
i7-3612QE @ 2.1GHz=6481
i7-2820QM @2.3GHz=6598
i7-3635QM @2.4GHz=6635
i7-2760QM @2.4GHz=6685
i7-2840QM @2.4GHz=6766

5 Highest:
i7-4980HQ @2.8GHz=10167
i7-4960HQ @2.6GHz=9941
i7-4940MX @3.1GHz=9916
i7-4910MQ @2.9GHz=9726
i7-4930MX @3GHz=9571

For Reference, the i7-4790K is scored @ 11241 while the i5-4690K is @ 7770, the #1 is the Xeon E5-2699 v3 @ 2.3GHz with a Score of 24601

https://www.cpubench...h_end_cpus.html

Edited by Lord Letto, 27 May 2015 - 09:43 AM.

[Lord Letto]

Just had a Look on Newegg for some Options (From Cheapest to $1500 US, Cheapest Per Brand):
Open Box: GIGABYTE P25XV2-CF3 for $1196.05: http://www.newegg.co...82E16834233087R
i7-4810MQ (2.8GHz, Passmark Score of 8743)
GTX 880M 8GB GDDR5 (8GB GDDR5 660Ti/760)
2x8GB DDR3 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, 128GB SSD
15.6" 1080P
Windows 8.1 64 Bit

Refurbished: ASUS ROG G751 Series G751JT-CH71 for $1300: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834232464
i7-4710HQ (2.5GHz, Passmark Score of 7950)
GTX 970M 3GB (3GB 580, 670 or 960)
2x8GB 1600MHz DDR3, 1TB 7200RPM HDD
17.3" 1080P
Windows 8.1 64-Bit

Refurbished MSI GT72 Dominator-406 for $1300: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834152803
i7-4710HQ (2.5GHz, Passmark Score of 7950)
GTX 970M 3GB (3GB 580, 670 or 960)
8GB+4GB 1600MHz DDR3, 1TB 7200RPM HDD
17.3" 1080P
Windows 8.1 64-Bit

DELL Alienware 17 ANW17-2136SLV for $1400: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834299296
i7-4710HQ (2.5GHz, Passmark Score of 7950)
GTX 970M 3GB GDDR5 (3GB GDDR5 580, 670 or 960)
2x4GB 1600MHz DDR3, 1TB 5400RPM HDD
17.3" 1080P
Windows 8.1 64-Bit
Free NVIDIA Witcher 3: Wild Hunt GTX game with purchase, ends soon

Edited by Lord Letto, 27 May 2015 - 12:02 PM.

[MavRCK]

Just an FYI - thermal limitations of yoru computer will throttle your cpu despite the use of throttlestop

I just redid my thermal paste on my Y50 with Gelid Extreme - running 3.4ghz all 4 cores for hours and hours with max temp of 84C - HUGE improvement from 3.2 ghz with max temps of 92C