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[Jaeger Gonzo]

Not sure why most of you don`t realize that insane low TTK since first quirk pass did that to game play.

[Sandersson Jankins]

Coming from the small point of view of an FRR loyalist CW-only player (only play "normal" modes when CW is dead or ceasefire'd):

CW matches I play in are frequently better matched than normal matches. I've seen mostly stomps from my side in normals today, although we were stomped as well. No close matches. Maybe my ELO hasn't set properly since I almost NEVER play normals (record is awful, only stats from my first few games lol)

[Metus regem]

Joseph Mallan, on 07 April 2015 - 03:30 AM, said:

MM is working fine. Its the players not playing as a team that causes games like that. I was in a rough game over the weekend, We were rolled by a team that stuck together and fought better than we did. MM cannot manage how WE as players work together. Complaints like Novakaine's is just players wanting their hand held so they don't have to face the reality that sometimes... they will get their butt kicked.

Not really, I went through a series of 7 or 8 games last night, that were all losses, and some real stops too 1 to 12, 0 to 12, 4 to 12.... I'm average maybe, decent at best but when I see multiple people in [228] or the likes on the OPFOR, I tend to worry... and that worry get's rewarded with getting my face kicked in... makes it hard to level a chassis from fresh....

Still I did manage to make a guy from the 228 work to kill my LCT-1V, on Canyon last light... made him chase me all over the map.

[Apnu]

Metus regem, on 07 April 2015 - 07:13 AM, said:

Still I did manage to make a guy from the 228 work to kill my LCT-1V, on Canyon last light... made him chase me all over the map.

Its always amusing to see players freak out over that last fast moving light. I see calls about how bad it is, and how annoying it is, and how much time is wasted. People seriously ***** about the last man standing, and all I can think is: "You're dead, he's doing better than you idiots."

[Metus regem]

Apnu, on 07 April 2015 - 07:32 AM, said:

Its always amusing to see players freak out over that last fast moving light. I see calls about how bad it is, and how annoying it is, and how much time is wasted. People seriously ***** about the last man standing, and all I can think is: "You're dead, he's doing better than you idiots."

I think I used the words:

"If it's so bad, and I suck for running a Locust, how come I'm still alive, and your not?"

We lost, but I had a higher damage score than anyone else on my team, all 287 points that game... run in, zap, zap, zap, run like hell for a while, loop back, zap, zap, zap...

[Joseph Mallan]

Metus regem, on 07 April 2015 - 07:13 AM, said:

Not really, I went through a series of 7 or 8 games last night, that were all losses, and some real stops too 1 to 12, 0 to 12, 4 to 12.... I'm average maybe, decent at best but when I see multiple people in [228] or the likes on the OPFOR, I tend to worry... and that worry get's rewarded with getting my face kicked in... makes it hard to level a chassis from fresh....

Still I did manage to make a guy from the 228 work to kill my LCT-1V, on Canyon last light... made him chase me all over the map.

I tend to rub my hands together and and get ready to see just how good I really am. Every time I go into group Que with my Fellow Lawmen, I find out just how good I am not. MM and Elo working perfectly. My fellow Lawmen are better than me (Higher Elo) so when I have enough of getting kicked around I switch to the PUG Que, and see my fair match of opponents. Which I do good some games and crap others. Elo working as intended.

[Metus regem]

Joseph Mallan, on 07 April 2015 - 08:16 AM, said:

I tend to rub my hands together and and get ready to see just how good I really am. Every time I go into group Que with my Fellow Lawmen, I find out just how good I am not. MM and Elo working perfectly. My fellow Lawmen are better than me (Higher Elo) so when I have enough of getting kicked around I switch to the PUG Que, and see my fair match of opponents. Which I do good some games and crap others. Elo working as intended.

When I was with CGBI, I dropped a lot with their comp team... I was the token flunky... thing is, we got a lot of wins, and I think that put me a bit higher in chassis than I should be in PUGlife...

[Joseph Mallan]

Metus regem, on 07 April 2015 - 08:19 AM, said:

When I was with CGBI, I dropped a lot with their comp team... I was the token flunky... thing is, we got a lot of wins, and I think that put me a bit higher in chassis than I should be in PUGlife...

Same with me and the Law. It took me quite some time to level off my Elo playing strictly PUG. But now unless its an event, I can hold my own in most matches.

[Mystere]

TwentyOne, on 07 April 2015 - 03:17 AM, said:

I just dont understand how some, if not many, players are SO ******* BAD AT THIS GAME. HOW CAN YOU ONLY DO 50 DAMAGE IN AN ASSAULT MECH. THAT'S LIKE 1 ALPHA. Why does this game have such aweful players. If you go play a game like battlefield, the worst guy on the team still has 5 kills and 20 deaths.

The assault got ambushed after being left behind by team mates?

Before 3/3/3/3, light wolf packs were feared for a really good reason. Nowadays, it's unusual to see the light queue at above 10%.

Edited by Mystere, 07 April 2015 - 08:25 AM.

[Apnu]

Metus regem, on 07 April 2015 - 07:52 AM, said:

I think I used the words:

"If it's so bad, and I suck for running a Locust, how come I'm still alive, and your not?"

We lost, but I had a higher damage score than anyone else on my team, all 287 points that game... run in, zap, zap, zap, run like hell for a while, loop back, zap, zap, zap...

You did better than most of your team.

[RazorbeastFXK3]

If it was directed at the OP I wouldn't know 'cause I wasn't in that battle.

If it was directed at me, I haven't run a LRM boat in a while. Lately I've been running SRMs, Lasers, PPC, MGuns, LB10X and AC working on the c-bill variants for Shadow Hawk. But when five members of your team die within 5 minutes of battle, you know you're up against some better than average players.

Gas Guzzler, on 06 April 2015 - 03:25 PM, said:

I bet you were running lurms too.

Nothing to see here guys, move along.

[HelBound]

It happens. Dropped with my team 5RCT this weekend, we had one game (5man on TS) where our team got rolled by clan muscle.
Then we did some rolling, then got rolled but mostly had even fights.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

there are games that as you make the adversary no harm ... 30 seconds duration fire from 200m to a Cataphract with 4xUAC 5 of the torso flickered in lock diagram on something visually all results =poor 100 Damage !!!!in return gave an alpha of two 'Mechs to my King Crab to scrap ... a timber fires in the run on a AFK Spider, and ACs only separates his left leg, then the left torso off without another hit zone even to scratch ..more than excellent Aim

[Just a Sandwich]

Gamuray, on 06 April 2015 - 03:17 PM, said:

This happened to me right after the voip introduction (not that those two things are related) as well. I payed close attention to my match results and numbers and checked my match history in my profile and was getting weird inflation with my amount of matches and inconsistency with recorded wins and losses (losses were maybe 1-2 off, but I should've only had a couple wins, yet it was recording many (which has since corrected). I would suggest keeping tally of your matches and keeping track of your match history and making sure it is recording it correctly. (if it's not recording it right, then there is no way that the MM will work properly for you).

(if you find inconsistencies, let support know. They know that I had the issue and I am on "let us know if it happens again" terms)

So I had a weird discrepancy on my stats too. I had more deaths than matches played in a couple of my hunchbacks. Support got back w me on it. Turns out there was a period of time right after they released the new game mode for CW, counterattack. It was counting those matches in the stats for a week or something. Anyways hope that helps shed some light on it.

[Crazy Billy Joe Bob]

nobody understands how how the match making is done, not even PGI.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Joseph has the right of it, MM works fine for the most part, the PLAYERS are the problem.

Team oriented game putting 12 individuals per team together and it expects them to play as a team.

Humans being humans, that doesn't happen all the time and you get the 12-0/2 stomps due to the OTHER team playing as a team.

Yell carry harder all you want, it's a team game, lack of teamwork shows very clearly.

[Novakaine]

Raggedyman, on 07 April 2015 - 03:47 AM, said:

so you got steamed 12/2 and that's bad but then you steamed 3/12 and that's good?

can someone explain that to me really slowly....

Ok slowly for ya.
It's not a about lurms or really MM
It's about a total lack of any real effort.
It's about the pure unbridled noobery
Done with it.
"Don't be that noob!"

Edited by Novakaine, 07 April 2015 - 02:17 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

RazorbeastFXK3, on 07 April 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

If it was directed at the OP I wouldn't know 'cause I wasn't in that battle.

If it was directed at me, I haven't run a LRM boat in a while. Lately I've been running SRMs, Lasers, PPC, MGuns, LB10X and AC working on the c-bill variants for Shadow Hawk. But when five members of your team die within 5 minutes of battle, you know you're up against some better than average players.

Was not directed at you.

Jaeger Gonzo, on 07 April 2015 - 05:20 AM, said:

Not sure why most of you don`t realize that insane low TTK since first quirk pass did that to game play.

It is only bad when you screw up.

When you die in seconds, it may be hard to admit, but you did something wrong to get into that position.

[Tarogato]

Alistair Winter, on 06 April 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

I'd love to see a screenshot contest to see if we can find who's been on the team that had the lowest possible average score. Not counting people who did literally 0 damage, because those are usually AFK or disconnected. But matches where everyone tried their best. Does anyone have screenshots with an average below 100 damage?

Close. Two from this morning. I get REALLY imbalanced games very frequently during EU hours.

Average: 122.25 damage





Average: 109.42 damage

[Jaeger Gonzo]

Gas Guzzler, on 07 April 2015 - 02:21 PM, said:

Was not directed at you.



It is only bad when you screw up.

When you die in seconds, it may be hard to admit, but you did something wrong to get into that position.

I`m talking about over all influence that low TTK did to game play. It did more stomps and you guys are funny thinking all the time only about MM. Now we can discuss why low TTK has hit game play like this.
Teams do not have a time to react. First team that create death ball win and will win always, no matter what and how skilled individuals really are. So there is no other tactics other then death ball, all of this has gone after introducing insane low TTK. As I think about it, ECM inflation is influencing this as well in a bad way.