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[Frosted]

You must be new on the internet Spleenslitta.
In video games you will notice that there are two types of players.
Those tham blames others for there short comings and those that will learn from there short comings.
Some people simply cannot accept that they are **** at the game they have spent countless hours on it.

[Mister Blastman]

Dino Might, on 15 April 2015 - 08:25 AM, said:

[Redacted]

Political agenda has no place on these forums. Sexual orientation has no place on these forums. That was my point and that is what the code of conduct says. It has no place here. Keep it focused on the game.

[Mar-X-maN]

I like to talk trash, but its only good fun. At least, I hope its regarded as such.

[Mystere]

Ialdabaoth, on 15 April 2015 - 02:13 AM, said:

Out of curiosity, in what model of human psychology does heaping ridicule on someone new cause them to try harder to improve, rather than deciding that your criticism was unfair and develop an adversion to learning?

Roadbuster, on 15 April 2015 - 03:59 AM, said:

How are these people going to survive in our modern economy?
Real life isn't that nice and nobody will take your hand and carry you through life.
Even if, from a psychological aspect, you're right, the harsh reality is different.

Haven't you heard of the story of that ex-jock who now works by cleaning toilets in the building owned by the nerd he used to bully during high school?

Edited by Mystere, 15 April 2015 - 01:55 PM.

[anonymous161]

Stopped reading after making your I'm Aethiest, after that I knew there was no point in respecting any viewpoint on what you are saying. Aethiest seem to revel in negative attention and love spreading it around.

You are not the flag holder here everyone has those days where they are hitting bad team after bad team and get frustrated.

Trash talking because you lost or because you won...dude what are you in your 50's or something how can you not be used to this kind of gaming culture at this point. you are coming off pretty newbie in your perception of gamers. I grew up with this kind of stuff you basically adapt. I do believe you can put people on ignore thats what the feature is their for.

K TOWN!

[InspectorG]

Compered to other online games ive played...pleasant if not frustrated at times.

MWO has a steep learning curve in an era where players expect to be insta-good.

Nope! One spawn. Failures will hurt. Welcome to Fight Club. If its your first night, you HAVE to pilot.

[cSand]

InspectorG, on 15 April 2015 - 02:06 PM, said:

Compered to other online games ive played...pleasant if not frustrated at times.

MWO has a steep learning curve in an era where players expect to be insta-good.

Nope! One spawn. Failures will hurt. Welcome to Fight Club. If its your first night, you HAVE to pilot.

haha,

word

Mechs tonight?

(round 7:30 or 8 PM PST ? depending on how much sushi I eat?)

[InspectorG]

cSand, on 15 April 2015 - 02:08 PM, said:

haha,

word

Mechs tonight?

(round 7:30 or 8 PM PST ? depending on how much sushi I eat?)

I think so!!!

Depend if go out to eat with my GF. I have a new Stalker to power level.

[anonymous161]

kamiko kross, on 15 April 2015 - 01:56 AM, said:

Interesting post there op.....kinda agree with some of it BUT.....

We here in modern times, have a very coddling attitude towards each other. No one can say mean thing lest someone's feelings get hurt.
People here on this thread ridicule the rager, it's always their fault right? Except it isn't always. You council understanding of others, yet won't extend that to the rager. People never try to understand WHY that person is mad at you. They could have had a bad day, and it's a steam release or you could have done something to make them mad at you. You might think you haven't, but you may well have blocked them or left them supportless, if you have it is your fault.
If you are experiencing verbal thrown at you most games, it may be a good idea to look at what you are doing-as your behaviour might be triggering it after all.
Peeps here have said it's "never their fault" (the rager) but the same applies to the coddled.
It's never your fault someone is mad at you is it?

I agree I feel socieity has gotten way too sensitive everyone wants to get someone in trouble for no reason other than it makes them feel special. Like for example facebook I cant post an opinion on something without someone trying to skin me alive over it my own relatives have been doing this to the point I finally decided to just black list them from my life since I realize just what kind of people they are when not putting on their mask during family reunions like holiday events. I realize just how bigoted and worthless they are as a member since for example one of them posted what color is anger too you? I made a stupid comment saying blue because guy with ********** is someone to be feared he will kill to get that *****. I apparantly opened a huge can of worms with 3 of the kids on one side the 17 year old telling me I'm disgusting, her sister trying to be my mom and putting me in my place and their brother telling me ever say anything like that again because she is 17 "which I forgot" will give me a black eye" All over a dirty joke thats been said forever now and in fact his response gives it some credit. Teenagers these days especially women have no...balls for anything anymore too coddled and protected from everything...**** I been looking at porn since I was 10 years old I've never had a sexual joke cause me any discomfort to the point I would treat them with hostile attitude.

Instead of being reasonable and going well it's not that big of a deal just dont post a dirty joke like that again they go on the attack against their own family member they turn into snarly dogs over nothing thats whats happening with society anymore you cant say anything someone else will be offended about even your own family wont have your back. My response was sorry about that but I'm not gonna be speaking to you guys again now that I know how little you really think about me. I've always been nice to these kids and now one stupid insensitive comment they show their true colors.

My point is just ignore them and move on. Hell troll them if they cant get over it go around in circles and do nothing for like half the match and then just quit out if after you actually tried to do well but had a bad round your aiming hand getting sore or something and just cant land those lucky shots then screw them. You likely paid money to play the game like most of us, your entitled to at least a few bad matches once in a while.

[Telmasa]

I feel like I'm pretty good-natured when the game is played out without blatantly obvious gimmicks afoot.

I spend alot of my time being frustrated-in-denial, however, as that's the current state of affairs: a glorified B.S. contest.

[Bagheera]

Hopefully someone already mentioned this, but that behavior isn't unique to MW:O and isn't even remotely new.

I played Tribes in the mid-late 90s (whenever the hell that game was out) and some people made the exact same kinds of comments as some people do now in this and every other team based online game.

Some people are just immature ass-hats who can't take responsiblity for themselves and blame the rest of the world for all their problems.

Is there some legitimately bad play? Sure. Is that an excuse to be an ass-hat? No.

Moving on.

[Zensei]

Spleenslitta, on 14 April 2015 - 02:47 PM, said:

We have all seen it. A guy dies and blames everybody on his team.
He says: "Why do i always end up with the noob team?" or he just starts cursing and insulting everyone.
Then he either continues to rant or leaves before anyone can even respond.

I'm going to speak my mind about this and i don't care how much i'm hounded/ridiculed/hated for it.
For those that don't go around saying foul things to your teammates: You don't need to read all this.

A lot of people will say i'm some naive blue eyed hyper religious guy who is possibly into other men as well as reading the bible three times a day.
Those that think so please click the spoiler button.

Spoiler

Sorry but your wrong on most accounts.
My eyes are green.
I'm very naive. An old lady swindled me for about 2500 NKR (316 USD). So your right about the naivete.

Religion? I'm an atheist.
But if i meet this guy calling himself god i would dropkick him within 5 seconds because of the horrible stuff he allows to happen around the world.

Reading the bible? I read a lot of books but the bible sounds outright boring.
Reviews and sales says it's a good book.
But the maincharacter is too overpowered to make it interresting. No jokes. No sense of humor.
What kind of a fantasy book doesn't have goblins causing mayhem?

If said god was an incredibly hot busty woman i would scold her for it.
Both for the lack of goblins in her book and whats happening in the world.
I just scold her because i don't hit women. I got some common decency afterall.
Then i would proceed to stare at her and drool just like any other straight guy.
So i'm definitivly straight.

The internet allows us anonymity and we often blow our tops to let out steam.
I get that, but there are limits.

Anyone who has cursed his teammates needs to ask themselves some serious questions.
These questions are
Would you say such foul words to a team you play sports with in public in front of your family?

Spoiler

Family which could include everyone from your grandparents, kind religious uncle, niece, children, parents, the kindly elderly neighbor who always had a sweet for you when you came to visit as a kid...heck why not include the family pet too.

What would your grandparents think of you if they knew the stuff you say just because you can do so without consequences?

Do Football/NBA/soccer/quidditch/golf players stop in the middle of the match to yell out words at their teammates/caddies that would get them sued or beaten to a pulp on the spot?
I hope they don't...i don't watch sports so i wouldn't know.

We have all seen the word noob being used often. But we also see stuff that's far over the line.
We see players making assumptions about other players sexual preferances for example.

Spoiler

Imagine you did say the foul version of the word associated with men who like other guys when something ticked you off in a match.
You pull out all the stops and let it rip. Everyone except your real life friend who is playing with you in this match gets cursed.
You would never say such things to your real life buddy because he has been your friend since kindergarden.
He is like your brother.

Then 1 week later he confesses he is into other men and that he is dating another guy.
Now you understand how much you hurt his feelings in that match and how you judged him too.
To make matters worse your sister has her room right next to yours and you said all those foul things into the mic.
She heard that through the wall and she has been struggling with the fact that she likes other girls for 2 years.
She was thinking about talking to you. Her brother. But then she hears what you say into the mic as you play MWO.

So do you regret what you said or do you grimace and run away out of embarrasment?
I you don't regret it then i hope the next march filled with people bearing rainbow colored flags is scheduled to walk over you.
Yup...right over you. Stomping on your nose as often as possible.

Am i saying these situations are real?
No. It's just supposed to make you understand how serious things could be if they were real.

To you this sounds like it would never happen. Never. Your friends are not like that.
Your family members are most certainly not like that.
Guess what? Things do not become the way you say it has to be just because you said so.

This is also kind of my decleration that i will keep my chat turned off in future games.
Furthermore i won't post nor read anything more in this thread.
So i won't know nor respond to anything you might say whether it's meant to support, ridicule or curse me.
Whether it's ingame or right here in this thread. PM's with....foul content will be reported to support.
Now i'm glad i have that option....to just tune everyone out and enjoy the game.

Because that's what MWO is. It is a game which you're meant to enjoy.
Losing a match is not the end of the world.

If losing a match means so much to you that you need to throw curses at everybody around you-
-Then i'm seriously worried about your mental health. I'm completly utterly serious here.
No joking. I really am worried.

Wear a blanket when you are playing it will keep you warm, watch the HBO documentary 'Going Clear', reboot and try again, remember L Ron created science and fiction, you'll be fine

[cSand]

InspectorG, on 15 April 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

Depend if go out to eat with my GF.

That what the kids are callin it these days?

[InspectorG]

cSand, on 15 April 2015 - 02:44 PM, said:

That what the kids are callin it these days?

Kids? Maybe.

Old farts like me? It just means getting dinner.

[mekabuser]

so its bad form and or childish.. Ignore or tell them stfu in some creative way, end of story.
I ignore bec its so pitifully lame to blab on about how ur so great and no one else knows wat they do.

[-Vompo-]

I sometimes understand people getting pissed at their team. It is not rare to see players do quite stupid decisions in games which screw other players over. Usually these things happen early in the game such as leaving a direwolf to die at the start or blocking the entrance to the crater in Mordor after few guys have gone up.

Then again we see players causing their own deaths by being stupid and blaming their team for it... Hey you cannot cure stupidity.

[Novakaine]

Herein the real problem.
Gits
1. A completely ignorant, childish person with no manners.
2. A person who feels justified in their callow behavior.
3. A person who thinks it's totally cool to act like a moron on the internet, only because no one can actually reach through the screen and punch their lights out.

"That n00b is behaving like a bloody git."
Novakaine personally likes # 3.
On a side note most of you guys rock and a pleasure to play with
Some of the rest not so much.

[Burktross]

Darth Bane001, on 15 April 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

I agree I feel socieity has gotten way too sensitive everyone wants to get someone in trouble for no reason other than it makes them feel special. Like for example facebook I cant post an opinion on something without someone trying to skin me alive over it my own relatives have been doing this to the point I finally decided to just black list them from my life since I realize just what kind of people they are when not putting on their mask during family reunions like holiday events. I realize just how bigoted and worthless they are as a member since for example one of them posted what color is anger too you? I made a stupid comment saying blue because guy with ********** is someone to be feared he will kill to get that *****. I apparantly opened a huge can of worms with 3 of the kids on one side the 17 year old telling me I'm disgusting, her sister trying to be my mom and putting me in my place and their brother telling me ever say anything like that again because she is 17 "which I forgot" will give me a black eye" All over a dirty joke thats been said forever now and in fact his response gives it some credit. Teenagers these days especially women have no...balls for anything anymore too coddled and protected from everything...**** I been looking at porn since I was 10 years old I've never had a sexual joke cause me any discomfort to the point I would treat them with hostile attitude.

Instead of being reasonable and going well it's not that big of a deal just dont post a dirty joke like that again they go on the attack against their own family member they turn into snarly dogs over nothing thats whats happening with society anymore you cant say anything someone else will be offended about even your own family wont have your back. My response was sorry about that but I'm not gonna be speaking to you guys again now that I know how little you really think about me. I've always been nice to these kids and now one stupid insensitive comment they show their true colors.

My point is just ignore them and move on. Hell troll them if they cant get over it go around in circles and do nothing for like half the match and then just quit out if after you actually tried to do well but had a bad round your aiming hand getting sore or something and just cant land those lucky shots then screw them. You likely paid money to play the game like most of us, your entitled to at least a few bad matches once in a while.

While I agree with you, it is important to have a balance... alas, we do not. We lean on the oversensitive side of the barrel-- at least here in the (northeastern) USA
Did you know that NJ has anti-bullying laws? It's ridiculous; Not even physical bullying, petty stuff like, "You're fat."
This is coming from the fat kid.

But I fear of derailing the thread, and will end this here.

[Vandul]

I have to tell you, I am pretty disenfranchised with the player base. I mean, Raven 3L's that come back to umbrella the assaults? Guys who spot, lock targets, NARC, UAV and TAG in pug matches? Those idiots who get on VOIP and call targets? And the worst are those pilots who come to help that legged or badly wounded mech getting dry humped by 2 or 3 Firestarters.

I get what you are saying OP. I get it.

[Ano]

Multiquote mayhem: I've edited so I can address specific points -- hopefully the context is preserved.

CptGier, on 14 April 2015 - 04:17 PM, said:

And that seems to be the trend of this game either way, 1-12 or 12-1.....this game's MM is utter fail and really needs to do a better job of putting equal numbers of equally skilled players on either side.
...
If your a "play for fun" person, then you need to be down in teh scrub Q with the other "play for fun" people.
...
Dont yell at the guy yelling about fail teams....its probably more the teams fault.

Perhaps this is a thing for people at really high ELO levels (I'm not there) but this isn't a phenomenon I see. To be clear: I'm not saying I'm never involved in a 12-0 or 12-1 drubbing (on either side) -- it happens, and every so often it happens a couple of times in a row. But streaks are part of random behaviour. I certainly don't see it happening to ME to the extent that I find it particularly distressing.

re: "play for fun people". Actually, if you're a "play for serious" person, then YOU have some limited ability to put yourself in with likeminded folks: you can join/play with a unit, you can play in the group queue (where standards are generally higher), you can play in CW. "Play for fun" people can't do much more than play wherever they can and try to get better. PS: calling people less skilled than you "scrubs" generally doesn't inspire them to to much more than think badly of you.

Ragtag soldier, on 14 April 2015 - 11:01 PM, said:

clearly we're in different ELOs, because i see all kinda of childish rage. or you play when all the kiddies are safe in bed.

Joseph Mallan, on 15 April 2015 - 03:33 AM, said:

What I've seen is in 14 years, the maturity level of forum members have regressed not progressed. Then again in teh early days of the internet... not as many children were on line. Less folks were trying to be cool and edgy.

You know, a lot of nerdrage gets attributed to "the kids" but I'm not so sure. I'm increasingly convinced that there are plenty of 20something, 30something and older people who can't keep a civil tongue (or fingers).

kamiko kross, on 15 April 2015 - 01:56 AM, said:

People never try to understand WHY that person is mad at you. They could have had a bad day, and it's a steam release or you could have done something to make them mad at you. You might think you haven't, but you may well have blocked them or left them supportless, if you have it is your fault.... It's never your fault someone is mad at you is it?

It might well be my fault that I did something wrong. But it's 100% your fault if because you're annoyed, you choose to rant and rave at me like a deranged gibbon.

Roadbuster, on 15 April 2015 - 03:59 AM, said:

How are these people going to survive in our modern economy? Real life isn't that nice and nobody will take your hand and carry you through life.

Sure, reality can be pretty tough, but in 20 years of working as an adult, I've never had a boss or colleague call me a "************* useless sack of ****" (really hoping the profanity filter catches that) and I know fine and well that if they did, I'd have a very legitimate complaint to make. And it's not 'cos I'm Mr. Perfect at work