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[InnerSphereNews]

[Tennex]

That Ebon Jaguar's lower body is way too big and calves are too long

[-Skyrider-]

NO! Dont make the Ebon Jag's Legs SO high!! In lore it was always a low rider!

[Odanan]

The Ebon Jaguar body is perfect, but the legs... too big, too tall.
Could you make the mech shorter by compressing the legs down?

EDIT: Suggestion:

Adjustments done: lower legs shortened and bent; upper leg slightly narrowed; arms' pods moved up and inward a little (better shield, better convergence and less shooting the ground); reduced the telescopic arm struts (for aesthetics), compressed the legs mount, removed one hole in the nose and made it a little more long-nosed.

PS: I guess I could get used to the current model, but the concept art looks so much better...

Spoiler

Edited by Odanan, 19 April 2015 - 08:07 AM.

[Tarogato]

Eek, legs are a bit too big and straight. It needs to be low profile and have the right proportions between the upper and lower body. Hope it's not too late to fix. Otherwise, it's looking pretty sexy.


I was expecting something more like this, pay attention to how bent the legs are and how forward and aggressive the torso is; very imposing:




Because I understand that we can't have the following, due to it not having a hip and lacking torso twist:




This is what I'd love to see:

Edited by Tarogato, 19 April 2015 - 02:01 AM.

[Tincan Nightmare]

Does anyone else but me think that the model they have created for the Ebon Jaguar could make a decent Reseen Marauder.

[Wintersdark]

I'm really happy with it. Shorter would be good, but in all honesty being taller won't hurt it either. Height isn't a disadvantage in MWO, it's much more of a mixed bag.

Now, I understand those who's complaints re: height stemming from this being a very low slung mech in lore, and I don't argue that. Just... Well, I don't care so much about that. In my personal opinion (YMMV) this looks sexier than all get out. It wouldn't be harmed by being shorter, but I don't mind the height, and as the height is all in legs, I actually like it.

While as I said above, height is a mixed bag, the higher off the ground it's arms are the happier I am. Thus, height due to long legs is good: less shooting of dirt.

Also: THOSE SHOULDER HARDPOINTS OMG I'M IN LOVE.

[Rubberanvil]

Height wouldn't be an issue, except the Ebony Jaguar looks like Steve Urkel with the stance.

[Asmosis]

It probably needs a particular leg height so its doesn't look ridiculous when moving at full tilt. I would say make the upper torso/arms etc bigger, but then it would probably end up in assault class size which is what led to the compromise. we're going for human run rather than duck waddle after all.

[EAP10]

Oh wow, just wow! That Cauldron-Born looks amazing! All I can say right now, with those hard points, is...



2xPPc 1xGauss. Done deal.

[Hayato1983]

Ebon looks good, but can you make it shorter? seems a bit tall.

[Dakkss]

Those legs are ridiculous, I hope the pose in the video is the Jag with it's legs at full extension (which shouldn't really happen at all). They gotta bend like in the model images above.

[M A S E]

I agree, it is standing pretty tall... but.. crouching was also a thing back in the MW4 days.

[G SE7EN7]

Ebon with extra height!!! move over timber!!!!
Those top mounted weapons are going to be amazing.

[DigiEXE]

Hope the Ebon's legs are scaled down a little. It seems to be pretty tall compared to older MW Games and TT Models, but it does look great!

[SgtMagor]

I like it, just the way it is., Clan 65ton Death Dealer should be lots of fun.

[Tedarin]

So is that mech mounting peashooters or what are those teeny-weeny weapons.

Upscale ALL weapons already. AC:s, Gauss, PPC:s... Those just look ridiculous compared to the big mech frame.

Edit: ...except lrm:s, srm:s.

Edited by Tedarin, 19 April 2015 - 03:19 AM.

[Tidy]

Why is no one talking about the arms of the Ebon?
Concept art = gun placement just under cockpit
3D model = Nearer the hips

I'm pissed tbh dual gauss will be pointless on this model.

Why does pgi make all clan mechs knuckle draggers?

Edit: the more I look at it the more I hate it, all they did was telescope the arms out more than the concept art, SHORTEN the damn arms it looks bloody stupid!

Edited by Tidy, 19 April 2015 - 03:41 AM.

[Túatha Dé Danann]

I have to agree to several points said above. While the Cauldron Born may be a beast towards its loadout and has many hardpoints, it is already outbalanced by the fact, that it cannot mount JJ or ECM - so it NEEDS to be pretty straight forward in terms of firepower, esp looking left and right towards the Hellbringer and the Mad Cat. So nerfing the mech by giving it a bad geometry is not a good choice. The arms stick out too wide to the sides and heightwise cannot shield the side-torsos, the legs look much too high and need to be compressed (see first post), the side-torso weapon mounts look good and could be dropped down a little bit, esp. regarding using the arms as shields. Other than that, the center "nose" could be made a little bit more awesome looking like in the concept art, but its looking "okay" for now.

All in all, make a new geometry pass. This mech is the newest in the Clan lineup and should look badass.

[Navid A1]

Please lower the stance on the ebon jaguar...please.

And do the same for timberwolf and maddog while you're at it.