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[Jody Von Jedi]

My GPU (GTX 650ti) is hitting 100C playing on medium levels now. It will crap out on me occasionally, and crash to desktop or reboot.

I'm considering a GTX 960 as a replacement.

I've owned EVGA mostly, but would consider MSI, Asus, or Gigabyte branded.

Any advantage of one over the other brand?

[DarkExar]

Read some test and reviews for cards from mentioned brands, as the main difference is cooling system designed, power system and quality of components used (capacitors etc). Choose the most heat efficient after seeing numbers in benchmarks. Most friendly warranty conditions are also ones to consider.

All cards are all made in china anyway with more or less different vendor's name popped on the box so don't get fooled by some stupid marketing.

[Goose]

EVGA has kissed my behind repeatedly when honoring warranties … This is a good thing.

[DieGruneMorder]

Skip the 960 and spend a little more for the 970....its a way better deal per dollar...almost 2x. All the brands you named are great. I just got a Giga 970gtx windforce and besides the length of the card it is the most impressive piece of computer hardware i have ever purchased....worth every penny. :-)

kyrdragon, on 20 April 2015 - 05:00 PM, said:

I'd say stick with EVGA, ASUS is probably good as well, but in-depth technical reviews of EVGA show they have a lot going for them.

Otherwise EVGAs customer support has always been phenominal and fast for me, especially when dealing with warranties. And you know how customer service is a dying thing these days.

kyrdragon, on 20 April 2015 - 05:00 PM, said:

I'd say stick with EVGA, ASUS is probably good as well, but in-depth technical reviews of EVGA show they have a lot going for them.

Otherwise EVGAs customer support has always been phenominal and fast for me, especially when dealing with warranties. And you know how customer service is a dying thing these days.

EVGA is usually my first choice

[YakkSlapper]

QUESTION, about your cpu temp, NOT to treat you like a moron, but, when IF EVER, was the last time you opened up your system and cleaned out the dust build up in your heat sinks n fans? you8r shut down/reboot is your system emergency temp setting turning it off befor you blow up, so try cleaining out the INSIDES of your system, (many many many times have ppl asked me to fix there systems cause of similar stuff, only to discover its only a dust/dirt buildup interfering with the airflow n cooling)

also, is your CPU cooling fan still working? dead fan= heat shutdown just like a mech. so check for dust clogs and if your fan is running 1st then worry about new parts.

[Lord Letto]

YakkSlapper, on 20 April 2015 - 06:19 PM, said:

QUESTION, about your cpu temp, NOT to treat you like a moron, but, when IF EVER, was the last time you opened up your system and cleaned out the dust build up in your heat sinks n fans? you8r shut down/reboot is your system emergency temp setting turning it off befor you blow up, so try cleaining out the INSIDES of your system, (many many many times have ppl asked me to fix there systems cause of similar stuff, only to discover its only a dust/dirt buildup interfering with the airflow n cooling)

also, is your CPU cooling fan still working? dead fan= heat shutdown just like a mech. so check for dust clogs and if your fan is running 1st then worry about new parts.

http://blogs.nvidia....-cpu-and-a-gpu/

Edited by Lord Letto, 20 April 2015 - 06:38 PM.

[9erRed]

Greetings all,

The max temp for that card is 105C from the spec's.

Is the heat sink even working?
Is the fan(s) actually working?

Have U ever 'popped' off the heat sink(s) and checked/replaced the thermal paste?
- quite often the original thermal layer paste is nothing more than a 'stick-on' label or heat foam tabs.
- cleaning and applying quality paste and reseating the sink (clean the fan blades also) can radically change what it's capable of.

As was stated, a lot of the vid boards are made at the same location, with small changes to components or clocks for the different 'providers'. Some of these use 'not the best' cooling devices or methods and show it in lower prices.
- If your happy with the capability of that card, there are 'after market' solutions for most major brands of video cards.
- From air cooling to H2o solutions, and not really that expensive.

Judging the performance of a vid. card using MWO may not be your best solution, run dedicated benchmark tests. See if the card is preforming as it should for those tests. Then decide if 'fixing' or replacing is the way to go.

UPDATE: Have you installed a clean set of Nvidia drivers?
- Latest is from 17 March 2015 ver. 374.88 WHQL certified

Just some idea's,
9erRed

Edited by 9erRed, 20 April 2015 - 07:29 PM.

[Jody Von Jedi]

Thanks for all the replies.

Yes, my case is clean.

No, it's not my CPU, it's my GPU that's giving me issues.

Yes, all of the fans are working, Case, CPU, GPU.

I do have another question:

My CPU is an i5-2320. With that piece of information, would anyone still recommend the GTX-970? Would I be CPU bound with MW:O?

Just FYI: 8 GB ram too.

[Arkbird_]

Jody Von Jedi, on 20 April 2015 - 07:08 PM, said:

My CPU is an i5-2320. With that piece of information, would anyone still recommend the GTX-970? Would I be CPU bound with MW:O?

If you play other games? Definitely. Thing is a beast. I ultra settings literally every other game out there with it and a non overclocked FX 8350 and only have to drop settings in games where it is CPU bound (MW:O is one of the rare few examples i can't max out but that's their problem for not optimizing cpu usage) so yes you WILL be cpu bottlenecked in this game and a few others as well. But if you play literally anything else not so CPU reliant you will probably be able to max it out with a gtx 970 easy.

[Goose]

…

So: Go install MSI Afterburner, head to it's Fan tab, and give yourself a moar aggressive curve.

Now, install HWiNFO64 (or 32, whateves,) open up the Sensors, and make a log or seven of gameplay, then look over said log(s) with GenericLogViewer: This will tell you profound things about your bottlenecks.

Make plans to spend money from there …

Also: 350.12 is the latest and greatest from nVidia, and I've not seen many complaints about it; You should uninstall your old video driver with Display Driver Uninstaller, which was up to v.14.3.0.0 last time I checked.

Edited by Goose, 21 April 2015 - 10:02 AM.

[STEF_]

Jody Von Jedi, on 20 April 2015 - 03:18 PM, said:

My GPU (GTX 650ti) is hitting 100C playing on medium levels now. It will crap out on me occasionally, and crash to desktop or reboot.

I'm considering a GTX 960 as a replacement.

I've owned EVGA mostly, but would consider MSI, Asus, or Gigabyte branded.

Any advantage of one over the other brand?

I bought a new pc 3 weeks ago.

I'm very very happy, and with all max, except particells, I have 60 fps. With medium I go for 100-120 fps depending on maps.

This one:
Aspire V 17 nitro - Black edition, laptop
cpu i7 4720 2.60 ghz--> 3.60 ghz
16 giga ram
geforce gtx860 4 giga ram
HD 2 tera

I found it for 1000$, but searcing well I think it is possible to find it at less.

figure that previously I played with 23 fps average

edit: ops just forgot to say why I wrote this, sorry

The fact is that if you starting replacing Gpu, then maybe you can consider replacing cpu, too.
And the adding more ram too, etc.
So, at the end, maybe it can be more economical to buy a new pc.

Edited by Stefka Kerensky, 21 April 2015 - 01:36 AM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Stefka Kerensky, on 21 April 2015 - 01:29 AM, said:

I bought a new pc 3 weeks ago.

I'm very very happy, and with all max, except particells, I have 60 fps. With medium I go for 100-120 fps depending on maps.

This one:
Aspire V 17 nitro - Black edition, laptop
cpu i7 4720 2.60 ghz--> 3.60 ghz
16 giga ram
geforce gtx860 4 giga ram
HD 2 tera

I found it for 1000$, but searcing well I think it is possible to find it at less.

figure that previously I played with 23 fps average

That's a laptop, not a PC.


I would definitely grab afterburner, and set the fan for the GPU to 100% see if that changes the temp results, if it does it's likely your GPU fans were not scaling up enough, so use a custom fan curve to be more aggressive on the fan scaling.

As to your CPU yes maybe, but its not disastrous there is still an outstanding CPU upgrade option, you should be able to find used I5 2500K's and I7 2600K's on ebay for reasonable sums that will resolve any CPU issue.

Edited by DV McKenna, 21 April 2015 - 01:33 AM.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

DV McKenna, on 21 April 2015 - 01:30 AM, said:

That's a laptop, not a PC.

You meant to say desktop instead of PC. ;P


OT, i wouldn't recommened MSI, Their stuff is crapping out more frequently.

[Jody Von Jedi]

I have Geforce Precision X installed. I've played with the fan curve some too. At 100% fan kicking in around 80c, the temp still rises.

I ran a test last night and stopped it when the temp hit 98c, I'm sure it would have continued to rise if I didn't stop it.

[Jody Von Jedi]

Forgot to answer the question about the driver: yes, I have the latest driver.

[Lord Letto]

Hmm, What's Your Budget? that i5 is only a 3GHz with 3.3GHz Turbo, it may be decent enough but just to be safe we could maybe come up with some upgrades within your budget (CPU, MOBO (Unless you already have a Z** to OC on), GPU and Whatever else may be needed (Like a PSU to Handle the GPU Power).

[Goose]

Jody Von Jedi, on 21 April 2015 - 06:58 AM, said:

I ran a test last night and stopped it when the temp hit 98c, I'm sure it would have continued to rise if I didn't stop it.

Clean your Damn Card

[Jody Von Jedi]

Goose, on 21 April 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

Clean your Damn Card

Thanks for the link, but I did. It didn't make any difference. It wasn't clogged up anyway. I'll shoot some pictures tonight.

Budget? I'd like to stay under 200.00 for the video card. I'll stick with my CPU a little while longer.

Edited by Jody Von Jedi, 21 April 2015 - 12:34 PM.

[Lord Letto]

For <$200, The best on the AMD Side is a PowerColor Radeon R9 285 2GB TurboDuo, though I'd recommend going with a 280 instead for a better brand.

on the Nvidia side, The best you could get is a GTX 960. On The Toms Hardware GPU Hierarchy Chart (http://www.tomshardw...iew,3107-7.html) The GTX 960 and the Radeon R9 280/285 is on the same level, 4 levels above your GTX 650 TI.

http://pcpartpicker....1&c=208,167,182

[DemonicDonut]

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but what about your case fans? Do you have good airflow patterns (in the front, out the back. In the side, out the top) and decent cable management?

Has your temp slowly been rising over the past days, weeks, months? Overnight due to patch or any other coincidences?

If you want to buy a new card, I support it 100%. Upgrading is always fun. I'm just trying to figure out whats going on with your current card.