110 replies to this topic

[Adamski]

Bad players are going to have bad matches no matter where they go, I have seen multiple pilots fail to do more than 200 damage in CW across all 4 mechs, and that is with no spawn camping.

It would be nice if PGI had some sort of system to keep extremely inexperienced pilots out of CW like disabling trial mechs.

The rest depends upon players spending the minimum effort to copy paste builds from meta mechs or practice their custom builds in normal Q until they are proficient.

[Burktross]

Joseph Mallan, on 23 April 2015 - 09:13 AM, said:

Boo Hoo! We are playing a niche game that never was going to have a large populace. Add to that that every single player likely played by some level of house rules or another. So playing by "THE Rules" isn't going to sit well with most.

A niche of a niche?
Nicheception?

[Adamski]

Burktross, on 23 April 2015 - 11:04 AM, said:

A niche of a niche?
Nicheception?

actually it would be niche-cursion or recur-niche.

Inception means creation, a thing within itself is called Recursion, its just Facebook idiots and meme generators have gotten it confused.

[Burktross]

Adamski, on 23 April 2015 - 11:11 AM, said:

actually it would be niche-cursion or recur-niche.

Inception means creation, a thing within itself is called Recursion, its just Facebook idiots and meme generators have gotten it confused.

Recurniche has a nice ring to it, then!

[Johnny Z]

All Im going to say is that currently the galaxy map is a festival of synch dropping. Dont expect a fair fight and players will be ok.This weekend star map event may thin out the synch dropping so it should be fun.

Other than that I dont expect to much until the game has expanded the player base alot. The 4 v 4 will help also. Maybe other additions and changes.

Edited by Johnny Z, 24 April 2015 - 11:17 AM.

[Mystere]

Joseph Mallan, on 23 April 2015 - 08:31 AM, said:

Why isn't teh Phoenix Hawk fighting back?

It's a stun lock.

[Stoned Prophet]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 23 April 2015 - 10:51 AM, said:

Stone Prophet man, you wanna not have accounts just to avoid bans. They frown upon that here

Wut? Check me out in game. Im no alt account. Im a trueborborn Ghost Bear warrior here to reclaim the inner sphere from Barbarians such as yourself, freebirth scum solahma.
alternatr put: 1v1 me bbro! I declare a trial of grievance for your lies and slander!
Im on right now! Bet youll redacted out like saying youre at work or some redacted!
and ive already caught their attention. I got redacted for calling a mod redacacted redacted who do you redacted think you are are you so redacted redacted you just sit there redacted yourself? Or roughly the equivalent when they tried to redacted my name. 7 days redacted on the forums. I totally redacted deserved it. but the un Redacted my name as long as i dont talk about redacted.

Sorry for the ot but i thought it was pretty redacted funny...

Edited by Stoned Prophet, 23 April 2015 - 01:40 PM.

[C E Dwyer]

Almond Brown, on 23 April 2015 - 06:38 AM, said:

So PGI's promoting CW is a Bribe? Wow. That glass of yours in quite empty. Is it a bribe when they promote PUG Weekend play too? With Prizes no less?

Just for curiosity. If PGI did not offer any Prizes for the event, would that change the Bribe angle your taking or just change how you would hate on them?

My my bit defensive aren't we, hate is such an extreme word, how about if they had designed it so it was, attention grabbing, then they wouldn't have to be creating new items, to get a workable population for an event that's well somewhat one dimensional, and likely to be filled with ghost drops, with the way even organised groups seem to be giving up on it from todays threads

Edited by Cathy, 23 April 2015 - 01:47 PM.

[Adamski]

Cathy, on 23 April 2015 - 01:42 PM, said:

My my bit defensive aren't we, hate is such an extreme word, how about if they had designed it so it was, attention grabbing, then they wouldn't have to be creating new items, to get a workable population for an event that's well somewhat one dimensional, and filled with ghost drops

2% of matches is not "filled with ghost drops"

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Stoned Prophet, on 23 April 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

Wut? Check me out in game. Im no alt account. Im a trueborborn Ghost Bear warrior here to reclaim the inner sphere from Barbarians such as yourself, freebirth scum solahma.
alternatr put: 1v1 me bbro! I declare a trial of grievance for your lies and slander!
Im on right now! Bet youll redacted out like saying youre at work or some redacted!
and ive already caught their attention. I got redacted for calling a mod redacacted redacted who do you redacted think you are are you so redacted redacted you just sit there redacted yourself? Or roughly the equivalent when they tried to redacted my name. 7 days redacted on the forums. I totally redacted deserved it. but the un Redacted my name as long as i dont talk about redacted.

Sorry for the ot but i thought it was pretty redacted funny...

Hey, just givin you a heads up; they warned me and threatened to ban me for exactly that so I stopped. Thought you might not know better Stone Prophet

[Stoned Prophet]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 23 April 2015 - 02:46 PM, said:

Hey, just givin you a heads up; they warned me and threatened to ban me for exactly that so I stopped. Thought you might not know better Stone Prophet

That would be excellent advice, if i were indeed an alt for posting on the forums, but no, i am a true blue 100 percent authentic Clammer! Are you thinking, perhaps, of my freebirth brother? It happens. Hes all about the money filthy Lucrewarrior Merc. Hes one of those cowardly Davions so we never fight one another. But hes always hogging my bandwidth

Edited by Stoned Prophet, 23 April 2015 - 06:17 PM.

[Kilo 40]

Joseph Mallan, on 23 April 2015 - 09:13 AM, said:

Boo Hoo! We are playing a niche game that never was going to have a large populace. Add to that that every single player likely played by some level of house rules or another. So playing by "THE Rules" isn't going to sit well with most.

WTF does any of that have to do with the vast majority of the player base not playing CW because it was designed badly?

[Mystere]

Adamski, on 23 April 2015 - 01:45 PM, said:

2% of matches is not "filled with ghost drops"

it's an inconvenient truth.

[Jon Gotham]

Kilo 40, on 23 April 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

WTF does any of that have to do with the vast majority of the player base not playing CW because it was designed badly?

It wasn't designed badly.
It was designed for the wrong market.

[Johnny Z]

How to know your in a synch drop:


Drop into the match and a team mate, lets call him "rat" say's "Oh no we are fighting the mighty and awsome "Gankers united" we are doomed."

Some one on my team says "Another cheerleader for the opposite team, do they make you wear a skirt?"

Rat replies "You suck this is a PUG team and doesnt stand a chance, join a unit and be assimilated or be wiped out every match."

Some one replies "redacted redacted redacted redacted."

Rats co-synch dropper replies "Just quit if you dont like it"

Someone replies "If they are so good why dont they use Inner Sphere mechs and not use synch droppers?"

Rat and co-synch dropper reply "What are you talking about your crazy."

End of match screen shows that only 8 team mates did over 100 damage to the other team.


Even without the colorfull banter, the end of match screen will usually show how many legit players were on each team. 4 mechs is enough to rule out an unlucky drop which happens to everyone resulting in a super low score.

Edited by Johnny Z, 24 April 2015 - 11:41 AM.

[Stoned Prophet]

kamiko kross, on 24 April 2015 - 10:58 AM, said:

It wasn't designed badly.
It was designed for the wrong market.

No, the wrong market wants to play CW. Theres PLENTY of people in the right market that want to play cw. Its just gonna take time before its fully fleshed out. Meanwhile, solo pugs cry because they want to have the team part of the game made easier, AFTER they GOT their solo queue.

[MW222]

destroika, on 21 April 2015 - 06:07 PM, said:

That is the advice I'm getting left and right, "just avoid community warfare." - Unless you're a hardcore unit. Otherwise, you're cannon fodder.

At the same time, I'm being told it's being used as intended. Good communication and coordination along with decent skill as a plus.

So there you have it. In short, CW is working perfectly, so avoid it.

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It just seems like something is wrong with this. Story of MWO. Until I get my free MC from ranks, I won't stop completely pugging in CW, but I will be going less and less, meanwhile, getting more and more burned out. This is good, maybe I will have such a severe distaste and hatred for this game I can finally put it away for good.

First I hear Ya. Take a week off it helps. I also switched to just playing Skirmish mode most of the time.

As to CW. Lets SEE-----Hummmmm. Wait time, Check. Drop-ship Camping, Check. Unable to use any mech with out changing Allegiance, Check. Yup, done here.

[Jon Gotham]

Stoned Prophet, on 24 April 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

No, the wrong market wants to play CW. Theres PLENTY of people in the right market that want to play cw. Its just gonna take time before its fully fleshed out. Meanwhile, solo pugs cry because they want to have the team part of the game made easier, AFTER they GOT their solo queue.

Agreed, but those guys you mention are very loud indeed, VERY entitled and insanely, doggedly..obsessively persistent. Plus, their ego centric viewpoint CANNOT be changed with logic.

The only issue with CW now is it requires teamwork, which is exactly what people are refusing to do.

[Almond Brown]

Kilo 40, on 23 April 2015 - 06:47 AM, said:

I don't hate on PGI, and I completely take responsibility for my skill level, and I don't hate my team for when I do poorly.

The design of CW, in that it caters to large groups at the expense of small groups and solo players was a very poor decision. Stop blaming players for poor design choices.

If those "Players" even knew what a "design decision" actually entailed, I might be more inclined to agree with that statement, but the Forums constant supply of BS "best for MWO content" continues to prove that assumption moot and totally incorrect.

But feel free to carry on "deciding" what you think is best for MWO from your development armchair.

Edited by Almond Brown, 30 June 2015 - 10:45 AM.

[Cyborne Elemental]

Mystere, on 21 April 2015 - 06:34 PM, said:

I only play solo, even in CW. Something must be terribly wrong with me because I do not feel like cannon fodder.

Its because you're playing Clans.

Try dropping in solo as InnerSphere with all the spacepoor pubnubs.