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#81 Serpieri

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:40 PM

So when are clans getting an Assault with ECM?

#82 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:41 PM

I don know, is there some 90 tonner with ECM? That would be perfect because they still need a 90 tonner.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:45 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 04 May 2015 - 05:17 PM, said:

Also in the OP.

PPC in the arm with an ML, an AC5, and ML in the other arm.


My bad.

Most likely, the left arm will get the expanded hardpoints, given "legomechs"... minimum 2E, but possibly 3E.

It would require a bit more effort to make the RT a 2B hardpoint (let alone 3).

For the record, the Cataphract-3L is in the data, but we can already build it for the most part (barring the MASC part).

I suspect that might be available for the PTS as a side thing for the Mechlab upgrade.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:47 PM

View PostGyrok, on 04 May 2015 - 12:25 PM, said:

So, IS gets 55 ton ECM medium and 70 ton ECM heavy?

Clans get 65 ton ECM heavy and 45 ton ECM medium...

...

<_<

And yet both those Clan mechs will still be vastly superior to the IS counterparts.

#85 darkchylde

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:51 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 04 May 2015 - 05:41 PM, said:

I don know, is there some 90 tonner with ECM? That would be perfect because they still need a 90 tonner.


Turkina 95T - Production Year 3052

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Blood Asp 90T Production Year 3060

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Edited by darkchylde, 04 May 2015 - 05:54 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:52 PM

View Postdarkchylde, on 04 May 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:



Blood Asp

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Prepare for our new meta overlords. My body is ready.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:54 PM

View PostFupDup, on 04 May 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:

Prepare for our new meta overlords. My body is ready.


I forgot to add one :P - updated

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:56 PM

blood asp hardpoints...

#89 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 05:59 PM

The Blood Asp is so sick

#90 Serpieri

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:01 PM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 04 May 2015 - 05:56 PM, said:

blood asp hardpoints...


and 42 tons of pod space....

I must endeavor to become a bondsman for Clan Star Adder.

Edited by Serpieri, 04 May 2015 - 06:03 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:24 PM

View PostSerpieri, on 04 May 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

So when are clans getting an Assault with ECM?


Give it to my Warhawk! :lol:

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:25 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 04 May 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

What? I would think as a Clanner you'd rejoice seeing a IS Heavy slot taken up by a mediocre to bad chassis. ECM is useful, but the CTF-0X is no Hellbringer. For every one of them in a drop deck, that's one less TDR-5SS or 9S on the OpFor.

IS drop decks are stiff going to be far better served by relying on their Ravens and Spiders for ECM.

View PostGas Guzzler, on 04 May 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:


Why? It's going to be lacking in firepower compared to other 70 ton options. Same situation as Hellbringer vs Ebon Jaguar for example.


lol Bishop contrary to popular belief not all clammers are biased and non objective to the game... i may have some strong opinions about certain topics ECM included but all im after is a fun MWO that survives a long while.

most definitely at first glance it doesnt look like a great mech and less stk and tdr is better for everyone as would be less tbr and scr..... ECM in its current form is an abomination imho and unfortunately i dont really have any ideas to put forth on how to change or fix it. apart from having it only cover one mech that being the one it is carried by :-/

Gas Guzzler i wouldnt call it a similar situation as ebon and helbie, yea the ebon will cary more firepower but the hbr is still gonna be a strong mech no matter how you cut it, all im saying is more ecm as it is now isnt good for the game imho

#93 El Bandito

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:27 PM

View PostSerpieri, on 04 May 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

So when are clans getting an Assault with ECM?


Better question is, do Clans need an Assault with ECM to perform better, or it is just a novelty? If it is the latter, then there is no need to rush.

Besides, we needed ECM rework yesterday.

Edited by El Bandito, 05 May 2015 - 01:01 AM.


#94 darkchylde

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:31 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 04 May 2015 - 06:27 PM, said:


Better question is, do Clans need an Assault with ECM to perform better, or it is just a novelty? If it is the latter, then there is no need to rush.

Besides, we needed ECM rework yesterday.


Well, Fair is Fair - isn't that the reason that PGI added an IS Heavy because clans had one?

Yeah - ECM need to be set to TT standards.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:37 PM

View Postdarkchylde, on 04 May 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:


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Clan Wave 4:

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Medium: Huntsman
Heavy: Night Gyr
Assault: Turkina

GG Inner Sphere.

View Postdarkchylde, on 04 May 2015 - 06:31 PM, said:


Well, Fair is Fair - isn't that the reason that PGI added an IS Heavy because clans had one?

Yeah - ECM need to be set to TT standards.

So then the Clan's ECM assualt should be as garbage as the DDC, right? Fair is fair.

Edited by Kevjack, 04 May 2015 - 06:40 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:42 PM

View PostFupDup, on 04 May 2015 - 12:43 PM, said:

Maybe the RT ballistic(s) will be high-mounted like the original artwork?

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That might help.


This. So much this. High mount gauss on an ECM phract, yes please! B)

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:44 PM

View PostKevjack, on 04 May 2015 - 06:37 PM, said:

So then the Clan's ECM assualt should be as garbage as the DDC, right? Fair is fair.


Mr Gargles. It's canon.

It's a Hero, with FutureTech™. A CT mounted Light Tag, which could be replaced with an ERSL.


That variant also brings 2 additional ST mounted Missile hardpoints.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:58 PM

View Postdarkchylde, on 04 May 2015 - 06:31 PM, said:


Well, Fair is Fair - isn't that the reason that PGI added an IS Heavy because clans had one?

Yeah - ECM need to be set to TT standards.

TT ECM would make it pretty much useless, unless they revamped the whole system. As it is every mech under 80 tons is usually quick enough to make LRMs merely an inconvenience.

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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:58 PM

View PostBush Hopper, on 04 May 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

More ECM mechs. Why don't they just remove LRMs completely from the game and be done with it?

OR......... and i know this is hard for the standard lurmer to comprehend, bring TAG & spot for yourself. TAG breaks ECM. My Hunchback 4J never has problems with ECM, but then i TAG my own locks from 3-400metres, i dont sit back 700m and await my team to get locks and hide with no fear of being targeted.

Edited by Ace Selin, 04 May 2015 - 06:59 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2015 - 06:59 PM

i just realized that ctf-0x sounds almost as kit fox...
definitely will have ecm then





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