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[Vlad Striker]

Win rate can be compared only 12 vs 12.11+1pug vs 12 pug is not comparable.

[Jody Von Jedi]

Proud to be associated with OLD.

[sCOREscream]

Really interesting statistic. Shows the skills of the playing pilots. Awesome battle and I'm really impressed of the pilots in CW in my unit. I'm proud to be a WidowMaker.
And yes Jody Von Jedi.....OLD done a really good job!

Edited by sCOREscream, 05 May 2015 - 12:14 PM.

[WVAnonymous]

Caffeine Zombie, on 05 May 2015 - 10:59 AM, said:

For those who want to see winrate.
Under spoiler now, for making page shorter a little:

Spoiler

I'm particularly impressed by KCom with 59 wins/player. That's a lot of effort (although it may have taken less total time to get those games than it took us to get ours. The IS queue was horrible) and a lot of fighting.

[Brother MEX]

Deathlike, on 05 May 2015 - 10:30 AM, said:

Some units carry. Other units don't.

It's shocking what some factions and units are doing in CW.

We are just a small planetary militia from a Deep Pheriphery world ... as most of our members are inactive or playing solo, I am surprised that 49 of them participated

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Rank FRR - Unit Name Tag Members Played Matches Wins
14 Brotherhood of Randiest BoR 232 49 491 161

Edited by Brother MEX, 05 May 2015 - 12:39 PM.

[Caffeine Zombie]

Here is an actual .xls file for those who do not want to make it themselves.
2nd page is more suitable for sorting.

Edited by Caffeine Zombie, 05 May 2015 - 12:59 PM.

[Taj]

TOP 20 - IS

Rank	Name	Tag	Matches	Wins	Win Rate
1	North Kurita	NKVA	538	487	90,52%
2	Varangian Guard	VRGD	1430	1254	87,69%
3	228th IBR	228	3442	3011	87,48%
4	Night's Scorn	NS	1888	1509	79,93%
5	Antares Scorpions	AS	1812	1430	78,92%
6	Black Hawk Mercenaries	BHM	31	24	77,42%
7	331st RBMD-The Minnesota Tribe-EU	331	577	444	76,95%
8	313th Czechoslovak Mech Company	313t	1124	848	75,44%
9	Black Outlaws Mercenary Company	-BO-	430	318	73,95%
10	Old Dragon Battle Group	OLD	1325	953	71,92%
11	Phoenix Legion	PHL	2969	2089	70,36%
12	Tikonov Commonality Armed Forces	TCAF	3786	2614	69,04%
13	The Remnant	REM	183	125	68,31%
14	12th Donegal Guards Battle Group	12DG	2944	1998	67,87%
15	T A M A R - J A E G E R DE	-TJ-	1477	1002	67,84%
16	1st Grunwald Iron Fist Regiment	GIFR	489	329	67,28%
17	1. Kampfkompanie Franken	KKF	409	272	66,50%
18	Russian Death Legion	RDL	490	324	66,12%
19	SexGamesAndRocknRoll	ORCS	399	260	65,16%
20	Aseveljet	ASE	1784	1153	64,63%

TOP 20 - Clans

Rank	Name	Tag	Matches	Wins	Win Rate
1	EmpyreaL	EmP	95	89	93,68%
2	Steel JaguaR	SJR	971	902	92,89%
3	Kell's Commandos	KCom	1734	1605	92,56%
4	White Death Mercenary Company	WDMC	1012	920	90,91%
5	EmpyreaL	EmP	458	411	89,74%
6	Battle Magic Mercenary Unit	BMMU	1064	932	87,59%
7	RageQuit Mercenary Corporation	QQ	1887	1596	84,58%
8	Russian Clan Wolf	RCW	1036	865	83,49%
9	Black Spikes	BSMC	1092	890	81,50%
10	Mercstar	-MS-	7236	5664	78,28%
11	KFC	KFC	1133	877	77,41%
12	House of Lords	Lord	237	183	77,22%
13	Falcon Guards International	FGI	166	126	75,90%
14	Clan Smoke Jaguar Competitive	CSJx	223	167	74,89%
15	Clan Jade Falcon Prime	JFP	2427	1811	74,62%
16	Smoking J's	4 20	3079	2296	74,57%
17	Outer Heaven	-OH-	64	47	73,44%
18	TooL	TooL	73	53	72,60%
19	Death Watch	-DW-	817	589	72,09%
20	Russian Clan Ghost Bear	RCGB	792	565	71,34%

TOP 50 - ALL

Rank	Name	Tag	Matches	Wins	Win Rate
1	EmpyreaL	EmP	95	89	93,68%
2	Steel JaguaR	SJR	971	902	92,89%
3	Kell's Commandos	KCom	1734	1605	92,56%
4	White Death Mercenary Company	WDMC	1012	920	90,91%
5	North Kurita	NKVA	538	487	90,52%
6	EmpyreaL	EmP	458	411	89,74%
7	Varangian Guard	VRGD	1430	1254	87,69%
8	Battle Magic Mercenary Unit	BMMU	1064	932	87,59%
9	228th IBR	228	3442	3011	87,48%
10	RageQuit Mercenary Corporation	QQ	1887	1596	84,58%
11	Russian Clan Wolf	RCW	1036	865	83,49%
12	Black Spikes	BSMC	1092	890	81,50%
13	Night's Scorn	NS	1888	1509	79,93%
14	Antares Scorpions	AS	1812	1430	78,92%
15	Mercstar	-MS-	7236	5664	78,28%
16	Black Hawk Mercenaries	BHM	31	24	77,42%
17	KFC	KFC	1133	877	77,41%
18	House of Lords	Lord	237	183	77,22%
19	331st RBMD-The Minnesota Tribe-EU	331	577	444	76,95%
20	Falcon Guards International	FGI	166	126	75,90%
21	313th Czechoslovak Mech Company	313t	1124	848	75,44%
22	Clan Smoke Jaguar Competitive	CSJx	223	167	74,89%
23	Clan Jade Falcon Prime	JFP	2427	1811	74,62%
24	Smoking J's	4 20	3079	2296	74,57%
25	Black Outlaws Mercenary Company	-BO-	430	318	73,95%
26	Outer Heaven	-OH-	64	47	73,44%
27	TooL	TooL	73	53	72,60%
28	Death Watch	-DW-	817	589	72,09%
29	Old Dragon Battle Group	OLD	1325	953	71,92%
30	Russian Clan Ghost Bear	RCGB	792	565	71,34%
31	Clan Kodiak	CK	1253	882	70,39%
32	Phoenix Legion	PHL	2969	2089	70,36%
33	Smoke Adders	-SA-	1411	982	69,60%
34	Tikonov Commonality Armed Forces	TCAF	3786	2614	69,04%
35	The Remnant	REM	183	125	68,31%
36	12th Donegal Guards Battle Group	12DG	2944	1998	67,87%
37	T A M A R - J A E G E R DE	-TJ-	1477	1002	67,84%
38	Restless Adders	(RA)	698	472	67,62%
39	1st Grunwald Iron Fist Regiment	GIFR	489	329	67,28%
40	Clan Ghost Bear International	CGBI	4192	2789	66,53%
41	1. Kampfkompanie Franken	KKF	409	272	66,50%
42	Clan Nova Cat International	CNCI	326	216	66,26%
43	Russian Death Legion	RDL	490	324	66,12%
44	DERP	DERP	728	475	65,25%
45	SexGamesAndRocknRoll	ORCS	399	260	65,16%
46	Clan Wolf - Germany	CWG	494	321	64,98%
47	Battle Clam Invasion	BCLI	233	151	64,81%
48	Aseveljet	ASE	1784	1153	64,63%
49	POWN TRAIN	PoWn	168	108	64,29%
50	57th Squadron	57th	304	195	64,14%

Edited by Taj, 05 May 2015 - 01:29 PM.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

LOL. Grats an einige Einheiten für die Stats. Mann darf nur nicht übersehen das nicht alle 12er nur aus Elite Piloten bestanden.
Dabei wundert mich die geringe Winrate einiger competive Gruppen schon.

[StUffz]

Marc, ist einfach zu erklären. Es gibt die Competetive Groups und Casual und wild zusammen gewürfelte Truppen. Und die "Auslandslegionen" wo Spieler aus gemischten Einheiten einen 12er bilden. Das wirkt sich auf die W/L der einzelnen Spieler aus.

[Kyynele]

meteorol, on 05 May 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

Wouldn't read too much into those W/L stats, since they don't show if the unit actually dropped together. If you have a few guys solo pugging the event because they don't find a time to play together in one unit, it will totally screw their W/L. Solo pugging CW against 12mans usually doesn't end up with a 85% winratio.

Well, 1 loss with a 12-man counts for just as many losses as losing 12 matches solo. So, I'd argue that playing in a 12-man and losing is a much more efficient way to totally screw your unit's W/L, compared to solo pugging.

With that said, my solo pugged games ended up with 88% W/L. Apologies WDMC, for dragging the rest of you down. I just really wanted to get that Warhawk.

[Kageru Ikazuchi]

Now this is something interesting ... thanks for opening the shades a bit more, and for us to get some more data to chew on!

[Caffeine Zombie]

Kyynele, on 05 May 2015 - 02:03 PM, said:

Well, 1 loss with a 12-man counts for just as many losses as losing 12 matches solo. So, I'd argue that playing in a 12-man and losing is a much more efficient way to totally screw your unit's W/L, compared to solo pugging.

Have to agree with you. Being a TCAF recruit, I could say that while our regular companies have winrate approaching to 100%, mixed recruit / allied units members drops got pwned by pugs sometimes, spoiling overall unit statistics.

[IdolElite]

I'm loving all the stats from this event, there's 2 more things i'd really like to see though.

1. The average match score of each unit's members would be awesome.

and

2. Each unit's 12 man win loss ratio would be nice.

That is all.

[Gorgo7]

Nice stats.

[mr bear]

Thanks for the stats. Nice to know even a small unit like mine (256th Bear Cav) can still make the cut.

[Freebrewer Bmore]

A great example of how, as much as individual performance can be dragged down by playing with disorganized pugs, it can be boosted by playing with people who use teamwork: Outer Heaven, 1-man unit, 64 matches, 47 wins, 73% rate?

Somehow I don't think he was dropping solo into pugilicious groups. Similarly, I have a feeling there are plenty of smaller units who contributed to filling out some nasty 12-mans in combination with other units, thereby boosting each other's numbers. All it really takes to wipe the floor with pugs and hold your own against typical 12's is 11 competent pilots willing to follow orders and a skilled drop commander issuing them.

Note that most units with 200+ members struggled to get above 55% wins (only TCAF in IS, more in Clan, but I kinda think Clans have a different baseline.) I'm guessing that, even tho assembling teams may have been easy for them, putting those teamwork elements together was a bit of a struggle for the largest units, who maybe had not enough good drop commanders to go around, or had their performance limited by having to carry a couple disobedient and/or unskilled pilots in each 12. Their top pilots and commanders are probably capable of much more.

So yeah, the numbers can be tricky in all sorts of ways, but they're great to have all the same. Know your enemy, yall!

[Poisoner]

Fangry, on 05 May 2015 - 11:07 AM, said:

The most supprising thing is that none of the Steiner units managed to get past 68% win rate.

Also only 11 IS units made it past 70% vs 21 Clan units.

Roleplay.

[meteorol]

Kyynele, on 05 May 2015 - 02:03 PM, said:

Well, 1 loss with a 12-man counts for just as many losses as losing 12 matches solo. So, I'd argue that playing in a 12-man and losing is a much more efficient way to totally screw your unit's W/L, compared to solo pugging.

With that said, my solo pugged games ended up with 88% W/L. Apologies WDMC, for dragging the rest of you down. I just really wanted to get that Warhawk.

Yeah, but the Chance of losing is way higher when solo puggin. 88% is impressiv, but it's highly depended on luck. I was solo pugging and it got rolled all the time. I played with 11 pugs against a 12 man for easily 40% of my games. I had a single MS 8 man on my Team for 50 games. The rest was me an 11 pugs. I was the best player on my Team for all but 3 matches. On average, only 4 guys on my team (me included) got above 1k DMG. If the pug lottery screws you, you will never get a 88% winrate. And the chance oft puglottery screwing you is was higher than losing with a 12 man

Edited by meteorol, 05 May 2015 - 08:17 PM.

[Kiiyor]

Well, I did some arbitrary number magic. A few of the totals seem odd, probably because the figures presented by our intrepid PGI overlords are only part of the picture. I'd be interested on getting my hands on EVERYTHING.

So bear in mind, this data is only for the top 25 units for each faction.



WALL OF UNITS!

I noticed that there were a couple of factions that did the ol' faction switcheroo. I added their totals together.

Edited by Kiiyor, 06 May 2015 - 01:51 AM.

[Túatha Dé Danann]

Odd, 95% of all matches I played have been won. This difference between mixed drops and the drops I did with my primary company is terrifying - esp. regarding the joined forces attempt. Someone dragged our W/L ratio down into oblivion.