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[Mister Blastman]

Cathy, on 11 May 2015 - 05:45 AM, said:

Very off topic, but if you have studied nut job sailors you must have heard about Sir Richard Grenville of the Revenge, he to me is the ultimate naval hero, you can forget your drakes and Nelsons and other sea faring types, he is the bomb.

He was one bad dude.

[Mycrus]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 11 May 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

I find that offensive (thats my neck) also; who got murdered because they were unfairly accused of something? Because otherwise then the witch trial label is wrong as well. The label is also wrong when you add that they didnt have video proof of the accusation (which they had in this case).

Looks like you are missing a moon.

[Mister Blastman]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 11 May 2015 - 01:48 PM, said:

I find that offensive

This world would be better off if people would delete that phrase from their vocabulary. I'm tired of political correctness.

[R Razor]

Mister Blastman, on 11 May 2015 - 03:56 PM, said:

This world would be better off if people would delete that phrase from their vocabulary. I'm tired of political correctness.

I wish I could like this at least 5000 more times.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Mister Blastman, on 11 May 2015 - 03:56 PM, said:

This world would be better off if people would delete that phrase from their vocabulary. I'm tired of political correctness.

...and that part was a joke -.-

Mycrus, on 11 May 2015 - 03:47 PM, said:

Looks like you are missing a moon.

Is a combination of


For the goddess
and


For the God
and a pentacle

[JaxRiot]

Just in case someone hasnt seen it yet

https://mwomercs.com...-on-cheat-tools

Edit- I tried to copy/paste it but it came out badly so here is a portion of what they had to say

Our current moderation policy is that we do not discuss the details of bans, suspensions, or warnings with anyone but the player in question. For the majority of cases where general moderation has been taken against an account, we continue to consider this to be the best course of action.

That being said, we do understand that many players want to see some indication, beyond a verbal assurance, that we are actively policing the use of these tools. Not providing clear indications that a player has been banned specifically for using such tools can lead to uncertainty and give rise to nonconstructive speculation.

Last Friday, we enacted the first ban of a 'competitive-tier' player entirely for their use of a cheat tool. From an outside perspective, there was no indication that this player had been banned specifically for cheating; their forum profile simply showed the standard 'Banned' Group and Member Title. Word spread rather quickly about this ban of a 'high-profile' player, and the publicly unstated reason for the ban led to a fair number of doubts, questions, and speculations.

Going forward, all accounts that have been banned for cheating will have a 'Banned - Cheater' designation applied to their forum profile in place of their Group and Member Title.

Edited by JaxRiot, 11 May 2015 - 07:20 PM.

[Johnny Z]

JaxRiot, on 11 May 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

Just in case someone hasnt seen it yet

https://mwomercs.com...-on-cheat-tools

Edit- I tried to copy/paste it but it came out badly so here is a portion of what they had to say

Our current moderation policy is that we do not discuss the details of bans, suspensions, or warnings with anyone but the player in question. For the majority of cases where general moderation has been taken against an account, we continue to consider this to be the best course of action.

That being said, we do understand that many players want to see some indication, beyond a verbal assurance, that we are actively policing the use of these tools. Not providing clear indications that a player has been banned specifically for using such tools can lead to uncertainty and give rise to nonconstructive speculation.

Last Friday, we enacted the first ban of a 'competitive-tier' player entirely for their use of a cheat tool. From an outside perspective, there was no indication that this player had been banned specifically for cheating; their forum profile simply showed the standard 'Banned' Group and Member Title. Word spread rather quickly about this ban of a 'high-profile' player, and the publicly unstated reason for the ban led to a fair number of doubts, questions, and speculations.

Going forward, all accounts that have been banned for cheating will have a 'Banned - Cheater' designation applied to their forum profile in place of their Group and Member Title.

Yikes. Well its official and they aint screwing around. It takes a while for them to Ban also, so anyone who has been using cheat programs for the last while and just stopped no pressure.

Side note, I am almost certain they got advice from other online games about this...

Also I have never cheated or reported anyone for cheating which is why I dont mind chatting about it. Regular player who doesnt like people getting banned honestly and also wants to play a good game.

The Yikes and is because the crossfire makes a guy want to duck his head almost.

Edited by Johnny Z, 11 May 2015 - 07:57 PM.

[Mycrus]

JaxRiot, on 11 May 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

Just in case someone hasnt seen it yet

https://mwomercs.com...-on-cheat-tools

Edit- I tried to copy/paste it but it came out badly so here is a portion of what they had to say

Our current moderation policy is that we do not discuss the details of bans, suspensions, or warnings with anyone but the player in question. For the majority of cases where general moderation has been taken against an account, we continue to consider this to be the best course of action.

That being said, we do understand that many players want to see some indication, beyond a verbal assurance, that we are actively policing the use of these tools. Not providing clear indications that a player has been banned specifically for using such tools can lead to uncertainty and give rise to nonconstructive speculation.

Last Friday, we enacted the first ban of a 'competitive-tier' player entirely for their use of a cheat tool. From an outside perspective, there was no indication that this player had been banned specifically for cheating; their forum profile simply showed the standard 'Banned' Group and Member Title. Word spread rather quickly about this ban of a 'high-profile' player, and the publicly unstated reason for the ban led to a fair number of doubts, questions, and speculations.

Going forward, all accounts that have been banned for cheating will have a 'Banned - Cheater' designation applied to their forum profile in place of their Group and Member Title.

Yipee!

[Raggedyman]

Mokay, a bold move from the PGI team. Let's see how it works out.

[Karen Supreme]

Mystere, on 10 May 2015 - 07:15 AM, said:

Hold a second! Isn't that the restricted-access tool (forgot what it's called) supplied by PGI for observing matches? The isometric view was the clear giveaway. I am assuming the commentator was given access to it (that blue Mech/damage indicator to the left is part of the tool). As such, I still do not see where the player was cheating.

Hi there!

Apparently you cannot see well enough,
but apparently that player was a cheater:

http://mwomercs.com/...oderatepudding/

funny enough, now community can know.

SO, yes, I think I'll give PGI my hints about who's cheating

[Mystere]

I want a shadowcat, on 11 May 2015 - 10:04 PM, said:

Hi there!

Apparently you cannot see well enough,
but apparently that player was a cheater:

http://mwomercs.com/...oderatepudding/

funny enough, now community can know.

SO, yes, I think I'll give PGI my hints about who's cheating

Ahem! The video feed was from the commentator's POV, which has enhancements over the standard spectator view. Or did you miss the part of the video in which the commentator switched between opposing players. Have you seen your spectator view do that, along with an isometric view? The blue indicators displayed to the left of the Mech are also part of that tool.

Edited by Mystere, 11 May 2015 - 10:11 PM.

[Karen Supreme]

Mystere, on 11 May 2015 - 10:10 PM, said:

Ahem! The video feed was from the commentator's POV, which has enhancements over the standard spectator view. Or did you miss the part of the video in which the commentator switched between opposing players. Have you seen your spectator view do that, along with an isometric view? The blue indicators displayed to the left of the Mech are also part of that tool.

OMG....
AEHM.
You still saying that? really?

THE point is that the banned could see and follow the enemy even when it was impossible for her to know that the enemy was there, because he was covering!
(and constantly hitting ct too, if you see... or can see...)

[Johnny Z]

I want a shadowcat, on 11 May 2015 - 10:15 PM, said:

OMG....
AEHM.
You still saying that? really?

THE point is that the banned could see and follow the enemy even when it was impossible for her to know that the enemy was there, because he was covering!
(and constantly hitting ct too, if you see... or can see...)

No one has said it was either player in that video that was banned. Thats completely unaccurate to say it was so please stop.

[meteorol]

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 10 May 2015 - 05:03 AM, said:

HAHAHA pudding rekt the emp scrubs. NOw ofc she will be called out as a cheater.

This thread is soo hilarious.

K-TOWN PLs

Turns out you were almost right on this. rekt i guess?

[Raggedyman]

Argann, on 11 May 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

It's in PGI's best interest to not give a reason, as it would allow offenders of the TOS, to shift gears on their tactics in order to avoide detection and circumvent a ban.

I think I get where you're coming from but as long as the ban reason isn't specific there really isn't much a bot user can learn from "banned for cheating" as they know what they've been doing to get that ban.

[Milocinia]

Told you I didn't buy the excuse of an abusive email. Now I may not be able to spot every cheater out there but I do know when I see one.

[Kain Demos]

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 10 May 2015 - 05:03 AM, said:

HAHAHA pudding rekt the emp scrubs. NOw ofc she will be called out as a cheater.

This thread is soo hilarious.

K-TOWN PLs

Hey there cool guy---check out her profile.

Your crow is served.

[Repasy Cooper]

TripleEhBeef, on 09 May 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

Well, even though said individual was banned from the game (whoever he was...), they were still a customer of PGI.

To go onto the forum and publicly blacklist that individual, even by their screen name, is not exactly the best customer relations strategy.

Also, PGI could potentially be viewed as releasing customer sensitive information to the public without their consent. I'm not sure if saying "so-and-so was banned for cheating" would run contrary to rules like PIPEDA, but I'm not a lawyer and I doubt PGI would want to poke a potential hornet's nest.

w/e man, the dude cheated so he forfeited ownership of his user account. He was a HIGH PROFILE PLAYER, so even if PGI did nothing to show any indication of the ban it would have spread like wildfire through other media.

Admittedly, I don't actually even know who was banned. Due to name-&-shame policies you can't mention the name here, and this is really the only place where I read up on MW:O stuffs. In any case, since this whatzisname 'VIP' was banned for cheating, it's obvious that he's not worth knowing about. Any 'skill' he had, and any 'following' he earned mean absolutely nothing now.

Also, this is just ONE GUY, it is not going to affect PGI at all financially.

[Bishop Steiner]

LORD TSARKON, on 09 May 2015 - 07:13 PM, said:

I"m assuming this is what we are talking about? I took out the name of the cheater... but its pretty freakin blantant cheating if you ask me...





Look at the 2nd gif above..... That Aimbot is just ITCHIN for some Bitchin...

Hope the Ban is a Month or longer.... Person has been playing since 2012.... for shame..

except I can't say the individual in that is really that notorious a comp player, as the rumor goes?

[Kain Demos]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 May 2015 - 08:42 AM, said:

except I can't say the individual in that is really that notorious a comp player, as the rumor goes?

That is one of the contributing factors here. They rose from obscurity to winning that contest in that video in a short period of time which led to some accusations like the one I quoted above that are basically "comp players mad that unknown came in and rekt them".

When really, the video speaks for itself. Adding to the situation was a well known and liked (even by PGI) streamer/uploader was trying to white night for said player.

Edited by Kain Thul, 12 May 2015 - 08:47 AM.