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[The Great Unwashed]

InnerSphereNews, on 16 May 2015 - 12:53 PM, said:

'Negative' Quirk values are marked as [color=red]red[/color].
Note: A technically negative Quirk may appear as [color=#00B050]green[/color] in this list if it has been improved compared to its previous value.

'Positive' Quirk values are marked as green.
Note: A technically positive Quirk may appear as [color=#FF0000]red[/color] in this list if it has been diminished compared to the previous value.

You know, I'm past that point in my life that when things no longer make sense it's my fault. If I get a report, thesis, or paper with the logic outlined above I take a red pen and I explain it is unreasonable to have the reader solve a verbal Sudoku when it is you who are trying to convince the reader.

So please stop this nonsense and just give the value new(old) and keep on using the color scheme but please stop randomly assigning minuses. People understand that a longer cooldown is bad so +10% is fine. -10% is a bad way to go about it as you probably implemented -9.09%...

In any case, you nerfed all clan heavies and mediums that have both ferro and endo (except to overly fast Ice Ferret). Perhaps you need to rethink your strategy on fixed armor/structure and rethink the entire clan weapon family instead of micromanaging mechs. It does not make any sense to me.

Edited by The Great Unwashed, 17 May 2015 - 10:35 PM.

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Mortal2None, on 16 May 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

UNINSTALL! REFUND! INSURECTION! VIVA LA NERFS!!!
With all the crying here we could solve the water shortages in the Midwest USA...

At least PGI is trying to better balance the game. There have been some great ideas in this thread as well but the crying game does not solve anything. (Except for the water crisis) You don't like the mech anymore? Play something else. Spent too much money on this game? That was your decision and I'm sure PGI loves you for it. I am one of those players who has spent WAY too much and hey, I still enjoy the game and even enjoy playing the "lesser" mechs. (And do all the time) Mech gets nerfed? It probably deserved it and PGI more than likely has the stats to back it up.

Well while you're solving the worlds water problems, how about you solve PGI's $$$ problems too by buying a few extra resistance packages as well, because the many clan players aren't spending another dime on nostalgia mechs when they all suck the same amount of ass as the mechs they've previously bought.

There is really no real reason or incentive to purchase them if you have Clan pack 1 or 2. Also with PGI still swinging the nerfhammer around like a three-legged mule drunk on cheap scotch, it's not really a good track record to have while hoping clan players pre-purchase them on blind faith praying that PGI don't nerf the **** out of those too.

Edited by 00ohDstruct, 17 May 2015 - 01:45 AM.

[sCOREscream]

nerfhammer....quirks....ahhhhhh......and someone really think Stalker are not better than Warhawks.....oh my god.....look at CW......ghost bear down to 2 planets.......jaguars down too 1 planet.....thats what I call a QUIRK-INVASION......nice!!!! Wrong direction hmmmmmm....

[fyurian]

nerfhammer had to come after tukki event.

even longer burn times, that's the best u can come up with??
U better fix Clan ballistics or unlock JJ again.

[DrSlamastika]

Not bad at all but nerfing Firestarter H or Raven 2X??? Really
I know they deserves some nerf but this is too much.

Those mech wasnt really OP. Firesterter A is still best . . . . so whats the point . . .

Edited by DrSlamastika, 17 May 2015 - 02:14 AM.

[Mosadoff]

Well, for me it's looks like PGI went World of Tanks way: introducing new OP mechs, sucking money, nerfing the mechs.

Introducing new OP mechs...

[Roland09]

You know what? I'm actually tempted to buy my first ever clan mechs (the others I own I took as prizes from the battlefield after a Brave Clan Warrior™ abandoned them) and dish out some $$ for a Wave 3 pack. Just to make up for one of these Refunders.

[ExoForce]

No more cash from me, thank You.

Spoiler

[B0oN]

Even longer burn times for Clan lasers ?
So much for balancing know-how ...

[KursedVixen]

Roland09, on 17 May 2015 - 02:50 AM, said:

You know what? I'm actually tempted to buy my first ever clan mechs (the others I own I took as prizes from the battlefield after a Brave Clan Warrior™ abandoned them) and dish out some $$ for a Wave 3 pack. Just to make up for one of these Refunders.

Good luck finding anyone in CW by the 20th clan space will be all but a ghost town as they all move back to the kerensky cluster

[TibsVT]

I just died inside after reading these changes...

Yes, please nerf my Clan Mechs more. No true omni capability. Now even running a stock config will be pointless as I'll be dead before my lasers stop burning. We can't even swap to ballistics because ours are garbage nor rely on LRMs with their 180m (reliable) minimum.

Yes PGI please keep nerfing the Clans. Don't suppose the current CW map shows how happy Clanners are with your recent quirk exploits.

Edited by KelesK, 17 May 2015 - 03:41 AM.

[KursedVixen]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1db73ae0eb77af2

[Guzzarov]

I have an idea as PGI seams hellbent on not fixing the not working clan mech but to nerf the working ones.
Why dont we all go play IS as it looks like thats what PGI wants anyway.
Fix hit reg clan ac's and the clan mechs that are under achiving.
You want us to go play with the other mech and trying to force us doing this is not the way.
Are all the PGI staff IS fan boy's or you just dont want people to play clans anymore?
I dont post mutch but you realy need to start looking at this in another way longer burn times and more heat again and again.

[PFC Carsten]

So, after sleeping one night and having thought about it a little more:
Great news for me as rarely-and-not-enjoying CW player. I will do a tour through all clans to reap the mechbay rewards and will be earning more assists per shot solely thx to longer burn times. THANK YOU PGI for saving me time and effort. [j/k]

Maybe I'll also try B33f's Direstar. That secures the kill.

Edited by PFC Carsten, 17 May 2015 - 03:51 AM.

[Willard Phule]

Here's the part that gets me.....all these wonderful, amazing "quirks" to equalize the weapons are all based on their performance....with a busted HSR.

PGI admits the HSR is borked, especially for lasers. But, instead of fixing the HSR to get an accurate read of each weapon, they decide to base all their tweaks, nerfs and quirks on the data collected from a server that can't collect accurate data in the first place.

So...when they do actually fix the HSR, I suspect we'll see yet another pass to tweak all these tweaks they didn't need to tweak in the first place.

[James Wirth]

These negative quirks for the Stormcrows are unacceptable. I paid good, REAL money for mine in June of last year with the Wave I collection, but now you are rendering them unusable. That will be the last time I ever spend money on an omnimech package, knowing how PGI baits and switches.

If you really want a solution to the "problem," then do away with quirks altogether and let the chips fall where they may. Clan omnimechs are SUPPOSED to be overpowered with their more advanced technology, not "balanced" with IS battlemechs.

That's why Clan omnimechs are far more expensive, right?

[KursedVixen]

there's always the streak crow

[James Wirth]

KursedVixen, on 17 May 2015 - 03:58 AM, said:

there's always the streak crow

There is no 30% C-Bill or XP bonus with the Streak Crow.

[KursedVixen]

well complain to PGi about that.

[s0hno]

These quirks totally make sense to me, since it nerves the Mechs that are obviously the strongest in game atm. Seems like the game approximates to a good balance!