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#1 Knightshadowsong

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 07:28 PM

No. I'm not saying that the UAC's need a nerf. I'm saying that the build needs a nerf. Every time I see one of those. they rip off 95% of my armor and almost never jam. and the smoke from the hits lags my system so that I cant shoot back. PLEASE PGI. Add a +5 chance to UAC Jam chance or something. Just Nerf that build. it's annoying and causes a problem for people with under 1200$ builds.

#2 Knightshadowsong

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:31 PM

Yeah. one or two UAC's might jam. but that doesn't help if your carrying 9 of the dang things. and i'm talking 1200$ COMPUTERS dude. not the cost of the mech.

#3 Poisoner

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:46 PM

My computer cost over 2k...

Anyways dakka whale sucks. The triple gauss is what you need to worry about.

#4 Kinski Orlawisch

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:53 PM

The whale is already dead in CW. So what..Nerf a dead mech? Continue..It is like demanding Nerfs on the Phoenix Mechs.....LOL.
Forget it. I don t see any in CW. Even with the nerfed TBR/SCR.....they will not Show up.

#5 juxstapo

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:54 PM

heh, no, the UAC5 Dire Wolf is fine. And I'm saying that as an exclusive Inner Sphere pilot.
Dakka Whales, as you label them, are, like many of my favorite gimmick builds, only effective in the correct circumstance:
The Boomjack,
The SRM30 Kintaro,
SmlPulse'Starters,

are all devestating.... if you can manipulate the circumstance to be favorable. For a Daishi rocking medium autocannon to be worth the tonnage and money you have to stay in front of it for an inane amount of time. Spot 'em early and flank 'em, pretty soon you'll Elo right up away from that one.

#6 Chagatay

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:58 PM

Either way as much as people fear the Whale it has so many weaknesses. Slow, big hitboxes (inc cockpit), horrible turning. If I had to face a Dakka KC or a Dakka Whale, I know which one I would chose....

#7 Absurdia

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:58 PM

When i am unfortunate enough to run into one in my slow, fat atlas over 240m range, and get ripped apart. I always imagine the pilot smashing the mouse button with one hand and wanking under the table with the other. But even then it does not need the nerf. I just wish crab could carry one more uac5. (for my own pleasure not balance)

#8 Chagatay

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:09 PM

View PostAbsurdia, on 19 May 2015 - 09:58 PM, said:

When i am unfortunate enough to run into one in my slow, fat atlas over 240m range, and get ripped apart. I always imagine the pilot smashing the mouse button with one hand and wanking under the table with the other. But even then it does not need the nerf. I just wish crab could carry one more uac5. (for my own pleasure not balance)


But just think of a Dire with IS UAC5s......

#9 Absurdia

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:10 PM

View PostChagatay, on 19 May 2015 - 10:09 PM, said:


But just think of a Dire with IS UAC5s......


I will not do that.

#10 Vellron2005

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Posted 20 May 2015 - 12:24 AM

Oh by the mechlabs! STOP with all the nerf nerf, PGI please nerf this or that whining!

I'm so sick of all the nerf's its not even funny..

Most anything that's any good in this game gets named OP, and shortly thereafter Nerfed.. then somethig else takes it's place, and the circle continues.. Please, PGI, nerf NERFING! Make the weapons and mechs, and keep them that way! Period!

When are you going to finally stop lisening to nerf-wiener-trolls? If this was a regular campaign-mode game, nobody would nerf anything, but its not, so weapons and quirks change on a weekly base...

I'm sick of it..

#11 Knightshadowsong

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 04:43 PM

vellron. Grow up. I want balance in the game. and if I have to ask for a nerf on an OP build, then I will. but i'm not going to listen to guys like you who moan about everything they don't like when it's not going there way. i'm tired of it pure and simple. the only thing that needs a nerf worse the then "daka-Whale" is the Machine guns. but i'm not going to go into that.

#12 Burktross

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 05:45 PM

its fine

#13 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 02:41 AM

View PostMarc von der Heide, on 19 May 2015 - 09:53 PM, said:

The whale is already dead in CW. So what..Nerf a dead mech? Continue..It is like demanding Nerfs on the Phoenix Mechs.....LOL.
Forget it. I don t see any in CW. Even with the nerfed TBR/SCR.....they will not Show up.

Isn't Thunderbolt a Phoenix mech?
Lots of people demand nerfs for it...

#14 Kalimaster

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 07:09 AM

Lets see. Another Nerf this thread. Are you guys done trying to beat everything to death yet?

#15 Hotthedd

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 07:24 AM

I stood in front of a 100 ton 'mech that can carry a lot of weapons, and it hurt me.

Mommy please make the bad 'mech go away.

#16 Vxheous

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 07:40 AM

View PostMarc von der Heide, on 19 May 2015 - 09:53 PM, said:

The whale is already dead in CW. So what..Nerf a dead mech? Continue..It is like demanding Nerfs on the Phoenix Mechs.....LOL.
Forget it. I don t see any in CW. Even with the nerfed TBR/SCR.....they will not Show up.


They will start to show up at least on defense, and Hold territory once the Arctic Cheetah gets released.

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 08:21 AM

I think the problem is that the cockpit is actually invisibly floating in-front of the mech, so the impacts on the mech from weapons fire can potentially bleed into the camera view of the player being being hit, and with the existing drain from the HUD, makes DPS dip.

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So, I'd have no problem toning down the visual impact effects and reducing impulse on each projectile so that these weapons do not decrease performance as much as they still do. And another perpetrator of this are missile weapons that could also see adjustments here too.

#18 bossclan

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 08:31 AM

A king crab with 4 uac5's is way better than a direwale with 6 cuac5s
So how about we nerf IS ACs and make them like clan ACs ?

#19 Lordred

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 08:37 AM

Did some one say lots of AC's?


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Posted 25 May 2015 - 08:38 AM

View PostPoisoner, on 19 May 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

My computer cost over 2k...

Anyways dakka whale sucks. The triple gauss is what you need to worry about.


Don't you mean Quad Gauss ?? That sh*t is LAME !

View PostLordred, on 25 May 2015 - 08:37 AM, said:

Did some one say lots of AC's?



There we great before the DPS and Range nerfs... Now it clear evidence that Mr. Ps... Decision to nerf it with ghost heat for the longest time was flawed.

Edited by ShinVector, 25 May 2015 - 08:40 AM.






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