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#121 Apnu

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:52 PM

View Postkeith, on 22 May 2015 - 05:18 PM, said:


pretty sure he means mektek the ppl who kept MW4 alive after Microsoft let it die. they added 3.5 exrta mech packs for free, keep the servers/ MM system running. heres the last vid of the MP4 before they were basically told to stop( if i remember right)




Ah yes MekTek, I remember them well. Quality stuff, enjoyed it thoroughly. I was pretty psyched to play that MAD. Good times.

Still the point stands. MekTek was allowed to live, like MW:LL in the good graces of Microsoft because they were free and only free until a deal came along that meant money in the bank for Microsoft. Its business and that's how business works. Also when discussing shoulda, coulda, woulda knowing who owns what and what the properties are is key before going on a rant about how the toys got taken away by money grubbing capitalists.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 05:56 PM

View Postkeith, on 22 May 2015 - 05:18 PM, said:


pretty sure he means mektek the ppl who kept MW4 alive after Microsoft let it die. they added 3.5 exrta mech packs for free, keep the servers/ MM system running. heres the last vid of the MP4 before they were basically told to stop( if i remember right)



lol. Yeah. "You know nothing about Battletech franchise." Has no idea what Mektek is. What a joke. lol

Alongside with the mod Mekpak 4.0, Mektek was about to release the multiplayer of AT1:BT as well before they told to stop.

Dont forget that PGI told to Wandering Samurai to stop their updates as well. They were about to release mechlab for MWLL.

View Postkeith, on 22 May 2015 - 05:18 PM, said:


pretty sure he means mektek the ppl who kept MW4 alive after Microsoft let it die. they added 3.5 exrta mech packs for free, keep the servers/ MM system running. heres the last vid of the MP4 before they were basically told to stop( if i remember right)



lol. Yeah. "You know nothing about Battletech franchise." Has no idea what Mektek is. What a joke. lol

Alongside with the mod Mekpak 4.0, Mektek was about to release the multiplayer of AT1:BT as well before they told to stop.

Dont forget that PGI told to Wandering Samurai to stop their updates as well. They were about to release mechlab for MWLL.

#123 TLBFestus

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:01 PM

View PostJohnny Z, on 22 May 2015 - 09:53 AM, said:

Ya the trolls disrespecting PGI are just that, trolls. I completely ignore them as a matter of fact. But now that they have my attention I dont mind saying some think character assissination and slander is a cure all. Wrong again troll *******.

View PostApnu, on 22 May 2015 - 10:22 AM, said:


I keep thinking the trolls will get bored and leave, but I'm wrong. They've found a new metagame to play its called: "Taking a dump on MWO so everybody can be miserable" How equal opportunity of them.




I love how the "White Knights" of the game ridicule any dissenters, yet expect their positions on the game to be inviolate and respected.

There are many good critics of this game that make thoughtful, cogent points (please note that by saying this I'm immediately disqualified) with respect to the games problems that routinely get shouted down by such quality people as yourselves.

Many of you are equally as guilty of the same partisan behavior that you criticize others for simply because they disagree with the path and decisions made by PGI regardless of the quality/intent of the criticism. In other words, there is such a thing as good negative criticism.

Edited by TLBFestus, 22 May 2015 - 06:03 PM.


#124 His Holiness Pope Buster

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:08 PM

I think that Russ has done a good job engaging the community with the town halls. I don't think the community would have the same level access with a larger company.

#125 ArchAngelWC

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:15 PM

Well....they are White Knights....consider..this game had 70k founders...we have 2k left....
Do you think that is because PGI is much loved by this community...

this..is the game you have facilitated by defending PGI's decisions...
a game with no population that will either die or get unfkded soon hopefully
(personally I'd rather unfkd as it's far easier)

#126 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:26 PM

View PostBrody319, on 21 May 2015 - 10:49 PM, said:

people complain about buying mechs now, just imagine if they got their hands on it.


They wouldnt be $50+ each Im betting

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:29 PM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 22 May 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:


They wouldnt be $50+ each Im betting


each variant would be 10 dollars each, no addition paints, you would pay for maps, and after you spend all dat money, they would abandon the game in a year and rerelease it so you can buy new DLC, with more mechs, map packs, and other pointless items.

#128 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:36 PM

View PostBrody319, on 22 May 2015 - 06:29 PM, said:


each variant would be 10 dollars each, no addition paints, you would pay for maps, and after you spend all dat money, they would abandon the game in a year and rerelease it so you can buy new DLC, with more mechs, map packs, and other pointless items.


but content... yes?

How long since the last non CW map?

This is easily the worst handled mess I have yet to see (that is still going and hasnt failed yet) to be completely honest

View PostKovarD, on 22 May 2015 - 05:56 PM, said:


Dont forget that PGI told to Wandering Samurai to stop their updates as well. They were about to release mechlab for MWLL.


I have yet to see proof of that. Just vague innuendo

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 22 May 2015 - 06:35 PM.


#129 KovarD

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:54 PM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 22 May 2015 - 06:36 PM, said:

I have yet to see proof of that. Just vague innuendo


Look on MWLL forum. Sean Tracy wrote a pissed post when he was working for Crytek, a PGI guy (Russ or Bryan) tolding him to stop (in a passive-agressive manner). People copied and pasted his post here and he had to make a apollogy post because he worked for the company that uses the engine for MWO. Gosh, this case was well know here back in the day...

#130 Milocinia

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 07:04 PM

View PostArchAngelWC, on 22 May 2015 - 06:15 PM, said:

Well....they are White Knights....consider..this game had 70k founders...we have 2k left....
Do you think that is because PGI is much loved by this community...

I was a founder of MWT and look where that got me. I'm not a founder of MWO and look where that's got me.

Being a founder means nothing. It really is a blind faith dip into the unknown. You put your money in but you sure as hell don't know what you're going to get out of it.

No-one is bound or contracted by anything. Just because you're a founder doesn't mean the blindest sh*t and it certainly doesn't give you any say over how the game should develop.

I wish some people would stop being butthurt over the past and just frickin move on!

Edited by Kyocera, 22 May 2015 - 07:04 PM.


#131 Bleary

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 07:17 PM

View PostArchAngelWC, on 22 May 2015 - 06:15 PM, said:

This..is the game you have facilitated by defending PGI's decisions...a game with no population that will either die or get unfkded soon hopefully
(personally I'd rather unfkd as it's far easier)
People have been painting this game as a dying ghost town for more than a year. And yet . . .here we are.

#132 SamsungNinja

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 07:35 PM

Short answer: Yes, absolutely.

Was IGP? No. Hell no.

#133 Novakaine

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 07:53 PM

PGI is doing just fine.
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#134 BaDkaRmA158Th

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 08:10 PM

Real reason Pgi told them to stop is because MwLL is a true battle tek game/mod. From ground troops,to tanks to aurospace craft.

And after buying the platform it was made off, it was 100% free, only a simple grind and understanding was needed to progress into a mech,and so on. "Not 20-40-80--180$ mech packs"

Your question OP, is NO, PGI has done VERY badly with the mech tech universe. They are fully not worthy. Look at most of the mechs in the mektech pack, and realize they have already or will all be added to MWO eventualy.

Buy Buy Buy!!! Buy buy buy!!! Buy Buy buy!!!

In what other game that ANY of you can remember/note could you put down 180$ and WAIT 6 months before the content was released, only to have it nerfed for balance sakes by the same prople who produced said mechs for the entire 6 months of waiting!!?!

Thats like paying to wait 6 months to beta test a mech THEY should know exactly how it would behave and perform LONG before it hits the open market.

But i digress, so long as other mech games are being shut down by PGI,and so long as people will pay for mech packs, this game is here to stay.

Irony is 180$ for a pack, is exactly 15$ a month for a year. Is MWo pay to win? nah, just pay to advance.

Regardless, you will pay PGi in some form or another. The Grind is REAL!!!

#135 Milocinia

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 08:13 PM

I spend nothing on other games. I spend that money on MWO.

As far as things go i think the investment/outcome is satisfactory.

Yes, I would like more but it's something that's out of my hands.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 08:27 PM

This might ruffle feathers but as 'free' and 'complete' MWLL was, I was never pushed to the point of getting the game or the mod to run on my computer even after watching the videos while I have downloaded MWO and installed it multiple times and kept it updated and purchased nice shiny things in it comparable to my purchases in one of the best F2P games in the market (Dota 2 and no, LOL business model has nothing on Dota 2's). which are the two games I have spent the most money on.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but I'm pretty okay with what we have with PGI. Far from perfect, but it's okay. Anyone can check all my non-troll posts and see that I have things I want improved in the game just like anyone else, but when someone starts spouting that (x) or (y) is a better publisher then it starts to get pointless. They never thought it was worth the investment to begin with and they sure as hell don't give a damn about it now.

I'll help build the bridge so people can get over it. :ph34r:

Edit:

And even if another company would have shown interest int he past the art would have probably been as crappy as it's always been and nowhere near as good as it is now.

Edited by Elizander, 22 May 2015 - 08:29 PM.


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:02 PM

View PostBleary, on 22 May 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

People have been painting this game as a dying ghost town for more than a year. And yet . . .here we are.

and tell me...do you not think the fact they immediately put up a huge series of grab deals after more than a few of us got Wave III refunds telling...

Nah man..MWO is doing fine...thats why all you see is grab deal grab deal grab deal...vote against grab deal...grab deal

founders vote 2k of 70k participate...

Phoenix...I wonder how many people bought it originally vs how many have voted

Edited by ArchAngelWC, 22 May 2015 - 09:07 PM.


#138 Sigilum Sanctum

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:30 PM

Are people in here seriously saying they'd rather have EA, Activision, or even Ubisoft have the rights to this game.

Do you people even pay attention to what that unholy trinity of publishers DO to their games and customers?

Edited by Sigilum Sanctum, 22 May 2015 - 09:30 PM.


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:08 PM

View PostArchAngelWC, on 22 May 2015 - 09:02 PM, said:

and tell me...do you not think the fact they immediately put up a huge series of grab deals after more than a few of us got Wave III refunds telling...

Nah man..MWO is doing fine...thats why all you see is grab deal grab deal grab deal...vote against grab deal...grab deal

founders vote 2k of 70k participate...

Phoenix...I wonder how many people bought it originally vs how many have voted

So having many grab deals = PGI is desperate?

That's quite a leap of logic.

#140 spectralthundr

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 10:45 PM

View PostNephyrisX, on 22 May 2015 - 10:08 PM, said:

So having many grab deals = PGI is desperate?

That's quite a leap of logic.


It's what they do, along with making things up outright, or taking things out of context completely to go "See see? GRAB DEAL11!!!eleventy!!!" Thankfully they mostly keep it to the Starcitizen forums these days, yes they have a massive thread there bitching non stop about PGI and MWO. It's quite pathetic really.





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