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[Crockdaddy]

Gas Guzzler, on 27 May 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:

Is Teamspeak considered 3rd party software?

In some pug circles is almost certainly is.

[Novakaine]

Flutterguy, on 27 May 2015 - 08:51 PM, said:

That strikes me as unlikely. I seriously doubt they did an IP ban. Putting on my wild theory and supposition hat, my guess would be the daughter commandeered her father's computer and installed hacks on both her's and her father's computer so she could play MWO with her friend.

So she whatever her age is got pappy's credit card to purchase this hack.
And if she has her own, then she's old enough to know better.
Because you can't download those particular ones for free.
Been a cop for 28 years, and let me tell you this.
Fish smell like fish.
No matter what ingredients you add to it.

Edited by Novakaine, 28 May 2015 - 08:28 AM.

[xengk]

Joseph Mallan, on 28 May 2015 - 06:04 AM, said:

Wow that didn't take long to Meme!

The meme I want from the movie is this.
Replace the steering wheel with Autocannon and add "WORSHIP THE DAKKA" over it.


Or make it the new steering wheel underhive meme.

[Crockdaddy]

marauder612, on 28 May 2015 - 07:40 AM, said:

playing devils advocate here.
it is in pgi's interest to keep that list short.
rampant cheating will kill the player base and kill the game.
there are already not enough people playing this game in certain timezones.

throwing out a handful publically
makes it look like they are doing something
and the short list implies it is not widespread
thus calming the waters for the player base.
All good PR.

meanwhile the cheating continues by the cleverer ones

pgi just nailed the low hanging fruit

I am sure your paranoia will serve you well once the apocalypse comes. Your post while alludes to a conspiracy sounds rationale but isn't. If PGI wanted a cover up they simply would cover up. If you have detailed information on special hacks share it on Reddit and send a ticket into PGI. Instead of serving up self serving fear and crap.

[Novakaine]

DaZur, on 27 May 2015 - 09:42 PM, said:

LOL and you wonder why the growing consensus is you're an ass?

And remember Jade Falcons have always been overachievers.
Bunch o Clankers.

[Joseph Mallan]

I Make Poor Decisions, on 27 May 2015 - 09:37 PM, said:

Stop.

That is a statement from someone who has absolutely no clue how LAN/WAN translation works or how easy it would be to simply include LAN IP in the packet data transferred between client and server. How do you think the router even KNOWS where incoming packets go? The LAN address can be right there in the packet header.

--to say nothing of now easy it would be to include what username was used to log in to the client that whatever code-injecting anti-cheat measure caught using cheats being injected.

Completely, entirely ignorant.



How do you know? Just exactly, how do you know what hacks Bhael's daughter was using?

The pile of assumptions you're making is taller than my Atlas.

how many pixels tall is it again? Cause thats all your Atlas is. A bunch of 0s and 1s. So a single assumption is taller than your Atlas. The again so is a single truth.

And how old is Bhael's daughter anyway?

[Bishop Steiner]

operatorZ, on 28 May 2015 - 06:26 AM, said:

I'm to lazy...otherwise I would go through and look at Baels Fires post for "insufferable fool" seems like key language somebody would use more than once.

actually, it's what someone defending Bhael fire tossed out at someone. That "I make bad decisions" guy.

[Joseph Mallan]

I Make Poor Decisions, on 27 May 2015 - 09:50 PM, said:

Nice ad hominem.

Maybe... But it is the reason!

[Repasy Cooper]

reign, on 28 May 2015 - 08:20 AM, said:

The way they were caught was leaked on outreach hpg. (cant talk or post links here) but it was very surgical and very directed. You either had the very specific software or you didn't.

Yeah they only caught the 64 people who didn't patch before playing, but more will be caught soon enough. Don't let anyone who professes otherwise fool you.

These will be the next excuses you hear.
I only installed it to see how it worked.
I only used it once.
It wasn't that good.

Everyone had fair warning it was going down, and to stop before the anti cheat method was implemented. If you got busted afterwards guess what to bad.

You can still get your money back for resistance 2 and wave 3 Russ said as much. Take your losses and go pollute another game please.

Ban wave 2 is coming, remember that. So anyone else out there still doing it and got lucky this time. Stop now.

Don't JUST stop either, contact PGI immediately & PLEAD THE FIFTH! Maybe they will be generous, but you'll never know unless you try. The only alternative of course is hoping you get maybe one or two more weeks playtime before your ban sentence comes slamming down on ya!

Admitting your sin is the first step to redemption. You can never hope to redeem yourself for ANYTHING unless you start with an apology of your own volition. NOT after being caught!

[Bilbo]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 28 May 2015 - 04:30 AM, said:

I think that is legal. My unit has a player that has muscular dystrohpy, and he plays MWO by voice command (we can hear him command his mech through teamspeak, since he's constantly talking)

Example: Legs, Legs, Legs (Legs is his command to walk forward) Target, Legs, one, one, target, Legs,

Best part of this thread! Brilliant!!

[Dimento Graven]

As one who has been 'accused' of aim-bot'ing multiple times I have to say I am in complete favor of this.

I hope that this is continuous unending search, given to PGI employees who are prone to be vociferously and high level OCD against cheating.

With the advent of CW and the various competitive events being sponsored by community, NOT hunting down and terminating cheaters is extremely bad for the long term health of the game.

Think about it: In CW, you don't have to use the aim-bot portion of the hack, just the wall hack portion being used by ONE person on a 12 man team provides a HUGELY disproportionate advantage to that team. The 11 other members may not know their DC is using a wall hack, but continuously marvels at their DC's preternatural ability to 'predict' what the enemy is doing at any given time.

The unfortunate enemy on the other side can't seem to respond or make a move without the cheater's team being able to somehow "know" where they are making their push... In a game where it's possible to wait more than 30 minutes for a drop, having a cheater F-up game play is a SERIOUS de-motivator for continued participation.

In the community sponsored competitive events, heck, WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN the results of cheaters taking advantage and completely devastating the integrity of the event, AGAIN, de-motivating the community to sponsor or participate in such events.

The posting of the cheater's names is a GOOD THING, we the consuming public can actually SEE that something has been done and can feel more comfortable that not only will something be done, BUT that it is ACTUALLY POSSIBLE to get rid of this sort of thing.

I feel sorry for the units that ended up losing so many people, but am glad that they are closer to being more 'pristine'.

[reign]

Repasy, on 28 May 2015 - 08:48 AM, said:

Don't JUST stop either, contact PGI immediately & PLEAD THE FIFTH! Maybe they will be generous, but you'll never know unless you try. The only alternative of course is hoping you get maybe one or two more weeks playtime before your ban sentence comes slamming down on ya!

Admitting your sin is the first step to redemption. You can never hope to redeem yourself for ANYTHING unless you start with an apology of your own volition. NOT after being caught!

Preach it , but yeah I agree. People will forgive those who come out and say it. Look at cheaters in sports. Its the ones who get caught and deny it that people revile.

[Piney II]

"My son did it....My buddy used my account and did it".....etc, etc.

It absolutely does not absolve you of responsibility for your account. YOUR account had the hacks - bottom line.

I truly hope that PGI stands firm and allows no excuses. No Mulligans here.

[Satan n stuff]

Dimento Graven, on 28 May 2015 - 09:08 AM, said:

So lemme get this straight, you're claiming to be 'aairu', the same 'aairu' is listed as banned?

At this point it doesn't matter, he's already lost what little credibility he had.

[Satan n stuff]

Dimento Graven, on 28 May 2015 - 09:19 AM, said:

Again, if you tr[redacted]
Why you feel you should be able to violate the community trust and still be a member of that community is beyond any reason.

This might actually be the first time I've agreed with you on anything. It feels strange.

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 28 May 2015 - 05:03 PM.

[Dimento Graven]

Satan n stuff, on 28 May 2015 - 09:20 AM, said:

This might actually be the first time I've agreed with you on anything. It feels strange.

Don't worry I'm sure it will be the ONLY time...

[Repasy Cooper]

the blake, on 28 May 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:

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Public forum is not the place to dispute a ban. You're just here to gain public support w/o giving ANY credible evidence to your innocence. Yea, you can make an alt and spam the forums, but nobody's going to support you & PGI has the right to remove any alt accounts you attempt to make, if they so wish.

If you even want to play the game again, I suggest sending a personal apology to PGI and asking if they'd allow you to start over with a new account.

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 28 May 2015 - 05:03 PM.

[reign]

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What happens when a player is identified by PGI as a cheater?

Once a player has been identified as a cheater, the account in question is permanently banned. Any alternate accounts operated by that player are also banned, regardless of whether or not they engaged the use of such tools on those alternate accounts.

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 28 May 2015 - 05:04 PM.

[Helsbane]

[redacted]

Not personally, but apparently, PGI has. You've aimed your protestations in the wrong direction by bringing them here. When you convince them, let us know.

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 28 May 2015 - 05:04 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

Dimento Graven, on 28 May 2015 - 09:19 AM, said:

Again, if you truly are 'aairu', you lost all privileges to associate with the non-cheating MWO community the minute you activated the 3rd parity 'aiming assistance' program, permanently.

The VAAAAAAAAAAST majority of us have NEVER done anything like that.

Why you feel you should be able to violate the community trust and still be a member of that community is beyond any reason.

^
these people routinely betray positions of their inactive teammates i.e. violate their teammates very real trust but as a bunch of hypocrites claim that cheaters, whom they probably never or almost never seen, violate some vague 'community trust'

who did you the right to speak from the name of community after all? as for me cheats i.e. violation of the fair play in most of cases aren't equal to the actual violation of trust which is vastly more serious

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 28 May 2015 - 05:05 PM.