163 replies to this topic

[Alwrathandabout42ninjas]

Wow. Just wow. What happened to " small incremental changes "???

LOL. Unless they dial those nerfs back a bit in a few patches, im probably going to put in a support ticket to ask for my a la carte $55 Timberwolf purchase refund.

The Timberwolf, while an excellent mech, was balanced imo. So many people kept on complaining about it being op and the Stormcrow being op but honestly, after all the quirks the IS mechs got, they were just fine and in the right place.

I would have justified these nerfs IF the IS mechs didnt get quirks... but since they did and alot of them are extremely op... these nerfs leave a sour taste in my mouth. And this is coming from someone who plays IS mostly.

I will give PGI time to dial it back since wave 3 is almost here and I dont really care that much. Just sharing my thoughts on this drastic nerf hammer that never should have been.

[Insects]

They won't give the $55 back so its pretty pointless.

[Joseph Mallan]

But ALL THINGS MUST BE EQUALLY LAME.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Lol

It's dead! You killed it!

So dramatic.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 18 May 2015 - 04:09 AM.

[Alwrathandabout42ninjas]

joelmuzz, on 18 May 2015 - 04:05 AM, said:

They won't give the $55 back so its pretty pointless.

Dont care if I get it back or not. At least im sending them the message that they screwed up.

[Joseph Mallan]

Alwrath, on 18 May 2015 - 04:08 AM, said:

Dont care if I get it back or not. At least im sending them the message that they screwed up.

Except players come and go all the time. My Kids try to use this method of dialog. All they got was nothing. So if you are going to quit. Just do it and stop talking about it.

[Insects]

MeiSooHaityu, on 18 May 2015 - 04:07 AM, said:

Lol

It's dead! You killed it!

So dramatic.

They tore its soul from its still beating heart with their bare teath and now it is but a mere collection of pixels stored as bits on a $100 hard drive somewhere in Canada ohhh the humanity! Why must mankind destroy all life on this planet? RIP innocent TW the sun shall never shine so brightly again.

[CyclonerM]

#SmallIncrementalChanges lol

[MeiSooHaityu]

joelmuzz, on 18 May 2015 - 04:14 AM, said:

They tore its soul from its still beating heart with their bare teath and now it is but a mere collection of pixels stored as bits on a $100 hard drive somewhere in Canada ohhh the humanity! Why must mankind destroy all life on this planet? RIP innocent TW the sun shall never shine so brightly again.

[El Bandito]

What the OP refuses to talk about is the fact that RVN-2X, Firestarters and STK-4N also got nerfed, on the IS side. Biased thread is biased.

Also, with the nerfing of the Timbies and Crows, thus lowering of the balance bar, PGI can finally turn down IS quirks in general, which have been running rampant. The nerfing of Timbie and Crow is good for the game.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 May 2015 - 04:44 AM.

[MechWarrior849305]

El Bandito, on 18 May 2015 - 04:41 AM, said:

What the OP refuses to talk about is the fact that RVN-2X, Firestarters and STK-4N also got nerfed, on the IS side. Biased thread is biased.

What YOU are refusing to talk about is the fact that TDR-5SS, WVR-6K, WVR-6R, DRG-1N,.. (list goes on) was not even looked at. Biased tread...yeah, you know the drill.
As for STK and RVN - there go 3H and 4X respectively, nothing really changed for IS

Edited by DuoAngel, 18 May 2015 - 04:47 AM.

[Yokaiko]

El Bandito, on 18 May 2015 - 04:41 AM, said:

What the OP refuses to talk about is the fact that RVN-2X, Firestarters and STK-4N also got nerfed, on the IS side. Biased thread is biased.

Also, with the nerfing of the Timbies and Crows, thus lowering of the balance bar, PGI can finally turn down IS quirks in general, which have been running rampant. The nerfing of Timbie and Crow is good for the game.

Lets be real, stalker barely was touched.

[Joseph Mallan]

DuoAngel, on 18 May 2015 - 04:46 AM, said:

What YOU are refusing to talk about is the fact that TDR-5SS, WVR-6K, WVR-6R, DRG-1N,.. (list goes on) was not even looked at. Biased tread...yeah, you know the drill.
As for STK and RVN - there goes 3H and 4X, nothing really changed for IS

What I laugh about is I don't use any of these mechs And Have never been interested in them. Don't like Dragons, Wolverines are my least fave of the 55 trinity Ravens are for House Liao, and I'm not a Clanner...

Nothing changes except its not easier to kill clanners. Less excitement for me.

[LordKnightFandragon]

El Bandito, on 18 May 2015 - 04:41 AM, said:

What the OP refuses to talk about is the fact that RVN-2X, Firestarters and STK-4N also got nerfed, on the IS side. Biased thread is biased.

Also, with the nerfing of the Timbies and Crows, thus lowering of the balance bar, PGI can finally turn down IS quirks in general, which have been running rampant. The nerfing of Timbie and Crow is good for the game.

THose only got positive numbers reduced slightly, TBR and SCR went hardcore into the negative numbers, their nerf is alot worse. IS quirks are still above their base values.

[MechWarrior849305]

Joseph Mallan, on 18 May 2015 - 04:50 AM, said:

What I laugh about is I don't use any of these mechs And Have never been interested in them. Don't like Dragons, Wolverines are my least fave of the 55 trinity Ravens are for House Liao, and I'm not a Clanner...

Nothing changes except its not easier to kill clanners. Less excitement for me.

Good for you, Sir. Neither it changes their state of OPed Metamechs right now, which were barely pared with timbers and stormcrows. How about 20dps for DRG-1N? I hope you don't think it is a bit OP

Edited by DuoAngel, 18 May 2015 - 04:58 AM.

[mogs01gt]

El Bandito, on 18 May 2015 - 04:41 AM, said:

What the OP refuses to talk about is the fact that RVN-2X, Firestarters and STK-4N also got nerfed, on the IS side. Biased thread is biased.

Also, with the nerfing of the Timbies and Crows, thus lowering of the balance bar, PGI can finally turn down IS quirks in general, which have been running rampant. The nerfing of Timbie and Crow is good for the game.

The 4n will still function just fine.

[Joseph Mallan]

DuoAngel, on 18 May 2015 - 04:58 AM, said:

Good for you, Sir. Neither it changes their state of OPed Metamechs right now, which were barely pared with timbers and stormcrows. How about 20dps for DRG-1N? I hope you don't think it is a bit OP

I don't. Should I?

If you think so, tell me why?

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 18 May 2015 - 04:59 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

El Bandito, it isn't worth it.

They are so enraged that no matter what you or anyone says, the nerf is a travesty. We have the OP claiming the Timby is dead for pete sake. The over the top ridiculousness isn't going to stop no matter what anyone says otherwise.

If you aren't holding a pitchfork with them, they go crazy.

Who knows, maybe there is some truth to it. Maybe 3% here and 6% there will really add up. We won't really know till we play the game for a bit post patch. If it's too severe, it will be altered.

I just think the The Timbies are Dead!! And Ermergerrd...Nerfs!!! posts are serious overreacting at this point...and pretty funny.

[El Bandito]

DuoAngel, on 18 May 2015 - 04:46 AM, said:

What YOU are refusing to talk about is the fact that TDR-5SS, WVR-6K, WVR-6R, DRG-1N,.. (list goes on) was not even looked at. Biased tread...yeah, you know the drill.
As for STK and RVN - there go 3H and 4X respectively, nothing really changed for IS

1. I was pointing out the OP's omission. If you think I was wrong to do that, then you are not worth talking to

2. I am completely fine if those IS mechs you mentioned gets nerfed. Since the top Clan mechs were nerfed, the quirks can now finally die down. Plus, I won't cry over those IS mechs like a sad Clanner.

Yokaiko, on 18 May 2015 - 04:46 AM, said:

Lets be real, stalker barely was touched.

But it's effectiveness solely lies on quirks, meaning it has a big chance of getting touched sooner and more frequently. I don't chase FoTM mechs so 4N's nerf is of no consequence to me.

LordKnightFandragon, on 18 May 2015 - 04:50 AM, said:

THose only got positive numbers reduced slightly, TBR and SCR went hardcore into the negative numbers, their nerf is alot worse. IS quirks are still above their base values.

As I said, with the lowering of the balance bar, thanks to negative Timbie and Crow quirks, more IS quirk nerfs will inevitably follow. Patience, mechwarrior.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 May 2015 - 05:06 AM.

[MechWarrior849305]

Joseph Mallan, on 18 May 2015 - 04:59 AM, said:

I don't. Should I?

If you think so, tell me why?

I got coughed laughing.
Okaaayy...
So, the only, nope, THE ONLY mech with the same dps out there is DWF with 6xCUAC5s. IRC their dps was 18.3 for DRG vs 18.5 for DWF. Any other mech has 9,5 dps max.
SO, what will you do against four DWFs in CW mode, when you barely can bring one?
But, OK. You cannot see it's OPness, your bad.