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[Wing 0]

Not sure if anyone else has been getting a notice about a window's icon on the bottom right on their task bar where your time and date systems are at but I have noticed this today while playing MWO. I know that it is free for most users since it was mentioned in talks awhile ago but there is one question that remains and that is about MWO. Will it run MWO with NO ISSUES and will it run smoother?

I sure as hell aint upgrading unless PGI has made sure its able to run on it with no problems. I have my reason's

[cSand]

Edit:

sh*t, Windows 10 must be released. I see that icon too.

my other statement still stands: upgrading right away is never a good idea if you're looking for stability.

That said, I'm totally gonna upgrade tomorrow. Fresh install though, no upgrade

I doubt that you will see a difference in performance though when it is released - unless MWO ever leverages DX12

Edited by cSand, 31 May 2015 - 10:54 PM.

[Sarlic]

No... It's a free reservation. The actual client will be around Summer.

Unless if you are running the preview windows.

[cSand]

Ah ok

interesting way of doing it...

I thought it seemed a bit early, all my literature at work said later this summer

Edited by cSand, 31 May 2015 - 11:04 PM.

[Brody319]

From what I have read, windows 10 can run 7/8 programs and has comparability modes for 7 and 8.

So it should work fine or be able to run the game fine.

Question is how reliable will the operating system be on launch.

[Wintersdark]

Wing 0, on 31 May 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

Not sure if anyone else has been getting a notice about a window's icon on the bottom right on their task bar where your time and date systems are at but I have noticed this today while playing MWO. I know that it is free for most users since it was mentioned in talks awhile ago but there is one question that remains and that is about MWO. Will it run MWO with NO ISSUES and will it run smoother?

I sure as hell aint upgrading unless PGI has made sure its able to run on it with no problems. I have my reason's

Short and sweet:

If you value stability and performance, early OS upgrades FOR ANY OS are always a bad idea. OS upgrades almost always come with issues.

So, if stability and performance are important to you, sit down, shut up, and don't upgrade until the stupid adventurous folks have found the show-stopping bugs.

[Wing 0]

Wintersdark, on 31 May 2015 - 11:50 PM, said:

Short and sweet:

So, if MWO don't work on Windows 10 because PGI hasn't built a confirmed patch for the game and installer, don't upgrade until the application can run without a hitch.

fixed

[Macster16]

My rule of thumb is - upgrade to every second Windows.

Whenever MS releases a new version that is drastically different, it's better to wait for the next version as the new one just being released is usually chocked with bugs and issues. It's then with the one after they seem to iron out and resolve most/all the major issues on the next release which is then the one you want to upgrade to.

- 95/98 were buggy and unstable as hell and then XP was really the first decent one since 3.x
- Vista was painful, clunky and irksome before Win7 came and wiped the floor clean with it
- Win8, while not too bad, has its fair share of nagging issues and annoying features about it

If the pattern repeats, then I imagine Win10 should be the next one worth going to. But as others have said, it's probably wise to give it some time and wait and see how it goes and the feedback it gets. Win7 will still be supported and should serve perfectly fine for a good while longer.

[kiniss]

Macster16, on 01 June 2015 - 02:40 AM, said:

My rule of thumb is - upgrade to every second Windows.

Whenever MS releases a new version that is drastically different, it's better to wait for the next version as the new one just being released is usually chocked with bugs and issues. It's then with the one after they seem to iron out and resolve most/all the major issues on the next release which is then the one you want to upgrade to.

- 95/98 were buggy and unstable as hell and then XP was really the first decent one since 3.x
- Vista was painful, clunky and irksome before Win7 came and wiped the floor clean with it
- Win8, while not too bad, has its fair share of nagging issues and annoying features about it

If the pattern repeats, then I imagine Win10 should be the next one worth going to. But as others have said, it's probably wise to give it some time and wait and see how it goes and the feedback it gets. Win7 will still be supported and should serve perfectly fine for a good while longer.

Windows 98 was actually a fairly solid OS. Windows 2000/ME were the crap ones that XP improved on. I agree with the vista/7 comparison. Some people are trying to say that 8.1 is the 7 to windows 8. but I disagree. 8.1 did help some of the problems, but it was still clunky. I'm hoping 10 will have the resource use of windows 8 because that was actually one of the awesome features of 8 over 7.

I'm probably going to hop onto 10 sometime in August since it's launching July 29th. This will give them a little bit to fix 0 day problems that weren't seen in the RC launch. I don't mind instability too much. I was on ME for almost 4 years before I made the upgrade to XP next to that I'm sure 10 can't be bad.

[Raggedyman]

Wing 0, on 31 May 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

Will it run MWO with NO ISSUES and will it run smoother?

Assume that it will, because it's going to become a major OS and MicroSoft are helping/making it easier for people convert their software to it so there is minimal delay. Wait until PGI say "MWO is now W10 complaint" and then wait a bit for the community to go "oooh, it works".

As for "will it run smoother": depends on your PC but overall the reports are 'yes, as Windows 10 works better for less memory'. Though you may not really spot it at this stage.

[lshtaria]

For the most part, Windows 10 is pretty much a cleaned up version of 8, just like 7 was the fixed version of Vista.

I would imagine 10 should hit the ground running but don't quote me on it.

[H Seldon]

Vista and Windows 8 were developed in a vacuum. Windows 10 is getting a lot of public testing just like Windows 7 did. I have access to Win 10 builds and they have been coming out quite frequently. This is a lot different than the Windows 8 and Vista builds. I have a few machines that I'm running Windows 10 on. The 10130 build will not install on the Surface 3, but runs fine on other machines. I'll wait for a few more builds before I install on my gaming rig.

[Nocifer Deathblade]

Macster16, on 01 June 2015 - 02:40 AM, said:

My rule of thumb is - upgrade to every second Windows.

Whenever MS releases a new version that is drastically different, it's better to wait for the next version as the new one just being released is usually chocked with bugs and issues. It's then with the one after they seem to iron out and resolve most/all the major issues on the next release which is then the one you want to upgrade to.

- 95/98 were buggy and unstable as hell and then XP was really the first decent one since 3.x
- Vista was painful, clunky and irksome before Win7 came and wiped the floor clean with it
- Win8, while not too bad, has its fair share of nagging issues and annoying features about it

If the pattern repeats, then I imagine Win10 should be the next one worth going to. But as others have said, it's probably wise to give it some time and wait and see how it goes and the feedback it gets. Win7 will still be supported and should serve perfectly fine for a good while longer.

Rule of thumb is nolonger reliable as new MSFT CEO replaced Steve Ballmer.. New CEO has different approach.

[Ragtag soldier]

windows ten is really just 8.2 with some fresh rebranding since 8 is a giant disaster marketing-wise. i forsee no problems.

[Macster16]

Nocifer Deathblade, on 01 June 2015 - 05:36 AM, said:

Rule of thumb is nolonger reliable as new MSFT CEO replaced Steve Ballmer.. New CEO has different approach.

What would that be?

From what I've seen of 10, it looks to be a buildup from 8/8.1 much like 7 was from Vista and XP was from 2000/ME (forgot about these ones in my previous post).

[EvilCow]

kiniss, on 01 June 2015 - 04:22 AM, said:

Windows 2000/ME were the crap ones that XP improved on.

Windows 2000 was probably the best Windows ever, XP just slapped a silly GUI over the same OS.

[Rogue Jedi]

kiniss, on 01 June 2015 - 04:22 AM, said:

Windows 98 was actually a fairly solid OS. Windows 2000/ME were the crap ones that XP improved on. I agree with the vista/7 comparison. Some people are trying to say that 8.1 is the 7 to windows 8. but I disagree. 8.1 did help some of the problems, but it was still clunky. I'm hoping 10 will have the resource use of windows 8 because that was actually one of the awesome features of 8 over 7.

Windows 98 was not good, it was 98SE released about the same time as ME and 2000 that was good.

2000 was not bad, it was designed as a client and server OS.XP was mostly a graphical overhaul of 2000, with some other stuff tacked on

XP was not good on release back in 2001, it was with SP2 that XP started being a good and reliable platform (in a similar fashion to 98SE vs 98 or to a lesser extent 8.1 vs 8)

[McScwizzy]

I'm still running Windows 7 and will continue to run until all the bugs are working out in Windows 10. It's never a good thing to upgrade right away when an OS is released.

[cSand]

Wing 0, on 01 June 2015 - 12:26 AM, said:

fixed

WingO, you know MWO

But it's not really just "make a patch for MWO"


If the underlying OS is unstable or has various issues (which upon release it usually does) then there's nothing you can do.
Think of how many patches there are for each MS OS, and service packs etc.

Hell, in the WIndows server world our rule at work is to wait for the R2/service pack 1 release before we'll even use it

Win 10 is based mostly off of 8.1 and largely the changes are GUI based, so I would think that there will be very few issues with the upgrade

Edited by cSand, 01 June 2015 - 06:50 AM.

[Corbenik]

I been running MWO on the w10 preview build and have had no hitches with it. it has run the same as when I was running it on 7.