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#21 Whatzituyah

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 03:50 PM

Looking at this thread it looks like I would need an Intel Core I7 instead of the I5 I got I already have a Asus optimised Nvidia GTX 650 I think thats what they are called. Thank you for telling me these details but I have better performance on DX 11 right now. I guess I should upgrade but PGI isnt upgrading there Graphics engine anytime soon so I guess I will be ok with delaying getting the new GPU until something comes along that actually uses DX 12.

I did an upgrade to my ram to 32 GB I know it was kinda pointless but I am sure ram helps out with something on the computer maybe process better?

Edited by Whatzituyah, 05 June 2015 - 03:52 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2015 - 03:54 PM

View PostDjPush, on 05 June 2015 - 12:53 PM, said:

This game will run at max with a medium grade GPU. However, the CPU is what matters most. It hates AMD CPU's (at least it used to). I5 or better is recommended (personal opinion not necessarily fact). Last year i was using a FX8350 and it was bad at handling THIS game. Got an I7 and problems went away. That was my experience.



you don't know what your talking about... this game just like most games are gpu dependant as long as your running just about any quad core.. and amd works just as good as intel.

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 03:57 PM

View PostQueek Head Taker, on 05 June 2015 - 03:54 PM, said:



you don't know what your talking about... this game just like most games are gpu dependant as long as your running just about any quad core.. and amd works just as good as intel.


While this is true maybe you should look up the technical details of the processor he was using and compare it to the processor he has now. The quality and performance can be different from the processor he had before.

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 04:20 PM

90-120 fps all settings on high with a GTX 780(4 gig) AMD FX-9590 cpu overclocked with 16gig ram.

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 05:09 PM

been researching for my own build, for the purposes of gaming i5 is said to be pretty much as good as the i7, the i7 is better for multi-tasking which is not an issue if you are only running MWO

also you only need 8gb of memory for gaming - the only time you need more is if you edit video a lot, otherwise more than 8gb is a waste

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 05:34 PM

Recently upgraded my computer and bought an XFX Radeon R9 290a. I can run everything at max settings at max resolution without the slightest dip in frame rate.

Complimented the card with an AMD Black Series 8350 8 Core processor.

EDIT: Its a desktop.

Edited by Sigilum Sanctum, 05 June 2015 - 05:35 PM.


#27 Dark DeLaurel

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 06:20 PM

View PostScratx, on 05 June 2015 - 12:22 PM, said:

So, as I am shopping around for a laptop that can handle MWO fine, I'm curious to know what kind of performance I might be looking at so I figured... why not ask my fellow players? :)

What GFX card do YOU have? Laptop or desktop? What's the frame rate, resolution and detail settings?


Thanks in advance for the input! (which I am sure will be useful to more than just myself :) )


I have Crossfire 7970m in my laptop with an Intel® Core™ i7-3820QM CPU @ 2.70GHz, 2701 Mhz, CPU and run 1920x1080 high detail and average 60 FPS.

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 06:24 PM

View PostHaakon Magnusson, on 05 June 2015 - 02:45 PM, said:

Please do not buy a laptop.. simply put use a desktop for gaming, easier on upgrade cycle (you can actually upgrade and keep it relevant)
Beyond that, toughest nvidia card you can afford and toughest intel CPU and you are good. You'll get the MB and memory good enough on the side.

Oh and as far as monitor goes, AOC 3440x1440 is cheap ultrawide that is just awesome, you'll be stuck with some tiny thing they want you to call a monitor on a laptop.

edit: Oh yeah, additionally you will get much more bang for the buck on a desktop...


Depending on the laptop it can be upgrade. Granted to get this functionality the laptop is a desktop replacement type so it is big and heavy. With my current Alienware m18x R2 the video cards (can run SLI or CrossFire), HDD (can have 4 2.5" SSDs), RAM (up to 32 GB) also the CPU can be upgraded and this is a three old laptop.

So they are out there and telling the person to go desktop for no reason other than upgradablility is non-sense if they really do need a laptop and doesn't add to the discussion or help them out.

Kristov said:

Avoid laptops if you can, they aren't good for gaming, unless Facebook games are your thing, even the Alienware gaming laptops actually suck for real gaming.


Please see above, I am still able to run all current gen games at max res with 60 FPS without issues. It all comes down to how the thing is spec'd out just like a desktop.

Edited by Dark DeLaurel, 05 June 2015 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2015 - 06:30 PM

View PostScratx, on 05 June 2015 - 03:25 PM, said:

I have a good reason to pick a laptop and I'm probably not going bleeding edge, either, that's why I'm trying to get a feel for what will do the job well and what won't. Going i7 is already a given and I have no problems figuring out what else I need. Except the graphics card, that I'm not so sure about.

I'm fully aware Desktop is better bang for the buck and much more flexible (I have built several over the years out of individually ordered parts... yes, I've no qualms or issues doing so). I might get one to replace my old desktop later. But right now, it's laptop time.


Look for a used Alienware or Clevo/Sager (these are the folks that Alienware and OriginPC bases theirs off of) laptop. Depending on the model you can get an good upgradable one for a somewhat fair price (you pay for the ability to be able to upgrade).

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 08:40 PM

Laptop with Quadcore 2Ghz CPU, 8GB RAM & Ti660 GPU, but run on low settings to get no frame rate drops.

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 08:52 PM

Got a Gigabyte laptop with i7 4710 and GTX 870M, plays the game fairly well. With newer parts out, I'd imagine an i7 4720 and GTX 960M or 970M would be more than sufficient.

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 09:16 PM

View PostWhatzituyah, on 05 June 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

Looking at this thread it looks like I would need an Intel Core I7 instead of the I5 I got I already have a Asus optimised Nvidia GTX 650 I think thats what they are called. Thank you for telling me these details but I have better performance on DX 11 right now. I guess I should upgrade but PGI isnt upgrading there Graphics engine anytime soon so I guess I will be ok with delaying getting the new GPU until something comes along that actually uses DX 12.

I did an upgrade to my ram to 32 GB I know it was kinda pointless but I am sure ram helps out with something on the computer maybe process better?


If your laptop lives mostly on your desk... consider an itx instead

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 11:33 PM

View PostMycrus, on 05 June 2015 - 09:16 PM, said:

If your laptop lives mostly on your desk... consider an itx instead


Whats any specific itx unit your talking about they make alot of things for computers.

Also I couldn't agree more with you sadly money is a issue if its a GPU I heard you can lease those so I will try to lease them. Yeah its like a car lease I know its weird to do it to a GPU.

Edited by Whatzituyah, 05 June 2015 - 11:36 PM.


#34 Dark DeLaurel

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 01:55 AM

View PostWhatzituyah, on 05 June 2015 - 11:33 PM, said:

Whats any specific itx unit your talking about they make alot of things for computers.

Also I couldn't agree more with you sadly money is a issue if its a GPU I heard you can lease those so I will try to lease them. Yeah its like a car lease I know its weird to do it to a GPU.


What Mycrus is saying is think of a Desktop replacement laptop (think Alienware m18x big) as an ITX based build (which in the grand scheme of things is). This link http://en.wikipedia....ter_form_factor will familiarize you with the form factors over the years.

Although i have never heard of leasing a GPU due to how fast they can be out dated.

Whatzituyah said:

Looking at this thread it looks like I would need an Intel Core I7 instead of the I5 I got I already have a Asus optimised Nvidia GTX 650 I think thats what they are called. Thank you for telling me these details but I have better performance on DX 11 right now. I guess I should upgrade but PGI isnt upgrading there Graphics engine anytime soon so I guess I will be ok with delaying getting the new GPU until something comes along that actually uses DX 12.

I did an upgrade to my ram to 32 GB I know it was kinda pointless but I am sure ram helps out with something on the computer maybe process better?


This really should be it's own thread in the hardware forum (really this thread should be in the hardware forum also).

If you are using an Intel i5 CPU you will be alright for MWO (most of my Clansmen are using i5's). The GTX 650 is getting long in the tooth but as long as you are not trying to run everything on high detail or more than 1920x1080 you should be fine. Putting 32GiB of RAM in was kind of a waste unless you are doing a lot of Photoshop CC or similar. That money is best off saved for a GPU upgrade.

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 04:28 AM

View PostWhatzituyah, on 05 June 2015 - 11:33 PM, said:


Whats any specific itx unit your talking about they make alot of things for computers.

Also I couldn't agree more with you sadly money is a issue if its a GPU I heard you can lease those so I will try to lease them. Yeah its like a car lease I know its weird to do it to a GPU.


http://blog.ncix.com...ing-build-guide

you cant lease GPUs... there are streaming services but i wouldnt advise that right now

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 04:55 AM

View PostQueek Head Taker, on 05 June 2015 - 03:54 PM, said:



you don't know what your talking about... this game just like most games are gpu dependant as long as your running just about any quad core.. and amd works just as good as intel.


And then you try a amd fx6300 on a completely fresh build and rejoice when you see 20-25fps with dips to 12 while your buddy with the exact same system except for a i5 instead of the fx6300 gets 50 stable.

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 05:26 AM

I have an old GTX660Ti graphics card with an I7 4790 cpu. Up to 70fps on high levels. CPU makes all the difference.

Cheers!
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Posted 06 June 2015 - 05:36 AM

Pay attention to what resolution monitor you buy. Higher resolutions are substantially more demanding to run.

I have an i5-2500k and an R9-290, and at max settings (except for AA off) I get like 90FPS at 1920x1080 but average around 45-55 at 2560x1440.

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 06:14 AM

I run a desktop with this card.

EVGA 02G-P4-3753-KR G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 750 Ti Superclocked 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0

Game is beautiful and smooth at high res, with dust and glow. This was a recent upgrade and I could see so much better it felt like cheating when I first started.

If you are thinking laptop or desktop I say get a desktop and build your own. The parts are plug and play these days, low difficulty to get a rig up. Desktop lets you save old parts and upgrade piecemeal for savings. Also, if you can get a solid state drive and install the client in it. The performance is amazing.

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 11:36 AM

View PostMycrus, on 06 June 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

http://blog.ncix.com...ing-build-guide

you cant lease GPUs... there are streaming services but i wouldnt advise that right now


https://cuttingedgegamer.com/

Just a quick google search found this and yes its real I checked so yeah you can lease gpus although some people say you should just pay up front.

View PostDark DeLaurel, on 06 June 2015 - 01:55 AM, said:

This really should be it's own thread in the hardware forum (really this thread should be in the hardware forum also).

If you are using an Intel i5 CPU you will be alright for MWO (most of my Clansmen are using i5's). The GTX 650 is getting long in the tooth but as long as you are not trying to run everything on high detail or more than 1920x1080 you should be fine. Putting 32GiB of RAM in was kind of a waste unless you are doing a lot of Photoshop CC or similar. That money is best off saved for a GPU upgrade.


Thank you for telling me this and I found the leasing site.

Edited by Whatzituyah, 06 June 2015 - 11:36 AM.






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