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[Mycrus]

Whatzituyah, on 06 June 2015 - 11:36 AM, said:

https://cuttingedgegamer.com/

Just a quick google search found this and yes its real I checked so yeah you can lease gpus although some people say you should just pay up front.



Thank you for telling me this and I found the leasing site.

If you like refurbished discards go for it.

[Whatzituyah]

Mycrus, on 07 June 2015 - 01:04 AM, said:

If you like refurbished discards go for it.

Well you still lease things while that maybe true some people can't afford to keep up with the pc master race.

[Mycrus]

Whatzituyah, on 07 June 2015 - 01:05 AM, said:

Well you still lease things while that maybe true some people can't afford to keep up with the pc master race.

Honest question... what is your monitor resolution?

[Whatzituyah]

Mycrus, on 07 June 2015 - 01:08 AM, said:

Honest question... what is your monitor resolution?

I already know how demanding 1980 x 1080 does not mean I cant bring it down a little but really honestly that sounded like what someone who likes to keep up with tech would say.

I am sorry I am tired it is 2:21 am here right now and I am grumpy. I think I took your comments the wrong way but whats this about refurbished discard? Also I have a 1980 x 1080 screen I know that is demanding every single pixel needs a signal through it to display the colors of the image but on the flip side this is a shooter it is not good if you cannot see something from a distance.

One more thing I have been hearing Crysis maybe a gorgeous engine but it surely isn't that stable.

Edited by Whatzituyah, 07 June 2015 - 01:26 AM.

[Mycrus]

Whatzituyah, on 07 June 2015 - 01:12 AM, said:

I already know how demanding 1980 x 1080 does not mean I cant bring it down a little but really honestly that sounded like what someone who likes to keep up with tech would say.

I am sorry I am tired it is 2:21 am here right now and I am grumpy. I think I took your comments the wrong way but whats this about refurbished discard? Also I have a 1980 x 1080 screen I know that is demanding every single pixel needs a signal through it to display the colors of the image but on the flip side this is a shooter it is not good if you cannot see something from a distance.

One more thing I have been hearing Crysis maybe a gorgeous engine but it surely isn't that stable.

You dont need the latest and the greatest to get max detail 60fps on a 1080... a single 970 is good enough... anything more than that you need to be running 1440 monitor to match or your monitor is literally the bottleneck.

[Moomtazz]

I used to work on the road 200+ days out of the year. I found that you want the following in a laptop: a "discrete" or "dedicated" graphics card that has it's own memory, a top 3 processor for that model, and as large a screen as you can carry in your bag.

ETA: Expect to pay through the nose and do your research on whether or not the video card uses shared memory or not. You do not want shared video memory. If you buy a 2nd tier with the things I listed you can probably use it for 3+ years before absolutely needing a new laptop, barring any revolutionary changes in hardware or gaming programming. Also you will not be playing at brand new games at Ultra settings!

Edited by Moomtazz, 07 June 2015 - 09:13 AM.

[Mavairo]

Don't waste your time gaming on a laptop.

Overheating piles of junk every single one, and aside from ram can't be upgraded.

Desktop PC
Mine has a 3.9ghz six core AMD
8gigs of ram
GTX650 TI Boosted.

I run on high, to very high, and at 80FPS most of the time.

[Stelar 7]

JagdFlanker, on 05 June 2015 - 05:09 PM, said:

been researching for my own build, for the purposes of gaming i5 is said to be pretty much as good as the i7, the i7 is better for multi-tasking which is not an issue if you are only running MWO

also you only need 8gb of memory for gaming - the only time you need more is if you edit video a lot, otherwise more than 8gb is a waste

I went i5 with my upgrade. No need for the 7 and the 100 you save can be something nice,

[Kira Onime]

Stelar 7, on 07 June 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

I went i5 with my upgrade. No need for the 7 and the 100 you save can be something nice,

i7's are pretty future proof and is one of the reasons people will pick up those CPUs.

[Stelar 7]

I'm a big believer in not buying the cutting edge. It let's me upgrade more often which hero's me closer to the edge in the long run.

[Mott]

Hey all, apologies but i'd like to piggyback on this thread rather than starting another.

I am a complete computer boob/tool. I just have never been able to sink my hooks into all the tech and lingo and ever-changing components well enough to comprehend how they all go together, etc.

I've been playing MWO (the only pc game i play) on a Lenovo laptop ideapad Z510 for 2 years now. And it's been alright with ALL settings on LOW. But with the new maps i've been seeing my FPS drop from 30-40 down into the mid-high teens. And it's brutal and I expect it'll only get worse as the game develops and gets more and more system intensive.
Aside from the undesirable laptop gaming abilities, i'm 6'4" and definitely tired of hunching over a laptop to play MWO.

My FiL recently gifted me a Dell workstation that he decommissioned from his work. He figured it would run MWO a little better than the laptop off the hop, and allow me to upgrade a component here and there when budget allows to get it to the point that it's running MWO at 60fps at, at least, medium settings.

However, when i loaded MWO, in just the mechbay/lobby, i was getting just 18fps. In-play, the fps dropped to 11.

The specs are:
Intel® Core i5-2000 @ 3.30ghz
RAM 8gb
64bit OS
Win 7
AMD Radeon HD 6350
Motherboard Dell 06D7TR A00, 1155 sockets, Graphic Interface PCI Express

Can anyone suggest a couple relatively budget friendly upgrades I should consider? In REALLY plain layman's terms lol.

Thanks all!

OH! And if there are any resources out there that let me type in my components and provides a list of compatible options, that'd be a great help too!

Edited by Mott, 08 December 2015 - 01:49 PM.

[Kaeb Odellas]

Mott, on 08 December 2015 - 01:44 PM, said:

Hey all, apologies but i'd like to piggyback on this thread rather than starting another.

I am a complete computer boob/tool. I just have never been able to sink my hooks into all the tech and lingo and ever-changing components well enough to comprehend how they all go together, etc.

I've been playing MWO (the only pc game i play) on a Lenovo laptop ideapad Z510 for 2 years now. And it's been alright with ALL settings on LOW. But with the new maps i've been seeing my FPS drop from 30-40 down into the mid-high teens. And it's brutal and I expect it'll only get worse as the game develops and gets more and more system intensive.
Aside from the undesirable laptop gaming abilities, i'm 6'4" and definitely tired of hunching over a laptop to play MWO.

My FiL recently gifted me a Dell workstation that he decommissioned from his work. He figured it would run MWO a little better than the laptop off the hop, and allow me to upgrade a component here and there when budget allows to get it to the point that it's running MWO at 60fps at, at least, medium settings.

However, when i loaded MWO, in just the mechbay/lobby, i was getting just 18fps. In-play, the fps dropped to 11.

The specs are:
Intel® Core i5-2000 @ 3.30ghz
RAM 8gb
64bit OS
Win 7
AMD Radeon HD 6350
Motherboard Dell 06D7TR A00, 1155 sockets, Graphic Interface PCI Express

Can anyone suggest a couple relatively budget friendly upgrades I should consider? In REALLY plain layman's terms lol.

Thanks all!

I'm assuming you mean an i5 2500. That CPU should be fine, but you definitely need a new video card. Probably something in the $200 range.

[Mott]

Kaeb Odellas, on 08 December 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

I'm assuming you mean an i5 2500. That CPU should be fine, but you definitely need a new video card. Probably something in the $200 range.

I don't know enough to disagree... but i used cpu-z, and it said i5-2000....

[Kaeb Odellas]

Mott, on 08 December 2015 - 01:54 PM, said:

I don't know enough to disagree... but i used cpu-z, and it said i5-2000....

It's probably reporting just the hardware generation then. There's no such thing as an i5-2000 CPU. The 2500 runs at 3.3 ghz

[Mott]

Cool, thank you!

Are there a couple compatible vid cards that are generally considered to be "the best" for MWO?

[Kaeb Odellas]

Mott, on 08 December 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:

Cool, thank you!

Are there a couple compatible vid cards that are generally considered to be "the best" for MWO?

I don't know about a specific card or manufacturer being "best" for MWO. I'd just recommend picking a good card within your price range. Also, you might also have to consider your power supply if you're working with an old Dell workstation. I can't imagine a workstation would be designed with higher GPU power consumption in mind.

[Troutmonkey]

KharnZor, on 05 June 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

90-120 fps all settings on high with a GTX 780(4 gig) AMD FX-9590 cpu overclocked with 16gig ram.

I can't understand how people manage to get these frame rates. Are we talking testing grounds or in game?

I have a i7 4790k and a GTX 970 and only get 40-60 frame (with dips) in regular games. In testing grounds it sits at 70. MWO is terribly optimized and I've never managed to get good, stable frame rates out of it.

After upgrading from my AMD 1090T and 6970 (which runs everything on high @ 30-40fps) I was expecting a massive improvement in frame rates. But I got bugger all. I just did a test on this PC and the difference in FPS between absolute lowest graphics and resolution and "high" graphics and 1080p is about ~5fps.

MWO is just terribly optimized all round

Mott, on 08 December 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:

Cool, thank you!

Are there a couple compatible vid cards that are generally considered to be "the best" for MWO?

GTX 970 is really good value for money right now and will play pretty much every other game on the market at ultra.

Edited by Troutmonkey, 08 December 2015 - 03:44 PM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

MSI GT72, i7 + GTX 980M, 60fps max yadda yadda

I wouldn't go for anything lower than a GTX 750 Ti, or the GTX 960M in a laptop.

This laptop is great for the price.

[Revis Volek]

JagdFlanker, on 05 June 2015 - 05:09 PM, said:

been researching for my own build, for the purposes of gaming i5 is said to be pretty much as good as the i7, the i7 is better for multi-tasking which is not an issue if you are only running MWO

also you only need 8gb of memory for gaming - the only time you need more is if you edit video a lot, otherwise more than 8gb is a waste

There are more reasons for more RAM, Multi tasking is gonna need an i7 though you are very correct.

But also yes video editing does eat up resources big time, but so can Photoshop, Corel, CAD, running Virtual Desktops an d a slew of other reasons you would want more then 8GB of RAM.\


My Drafting Computer at work is an i7 at 4.3ghz with 64 GB of RAM and a 970 GTX card and i need every bit of that when i get into some real intense graphics and Laser etchs.

But yea, as far as just playing games go, 8GB of ram and OC'd i5 and a nice GPU is all you need. The i5 actually is better because of price and power. Coupled with a Liquid cooler can do things a normal air cooled i7 can no problem at less money.

Troutmonkey, on 08 December 2015 - 03:27 PM, said:

I can't understand how people manage to get these frame rates. Are we talking testing grounds or in game?

I have a i7 4790k and a GTX 970 and only get 40-60 frame (with dips) in regular games. In testing grounds it sits at 70. MWO is terribly optimized and I've never managed to get good, stable frame rates out of it.

After upgrading from my AMD 1090T and 6970 (which runs everything on high @ 30-40fps) I was expecting a massive improvement in frame rates. But I got bugger all. I just did a test on this PC and the difference in FPS between absolute lowest graphics and resolution and "high" graphics and 1080p is about ~5fps.

MWO is just terribly optimized all round


GTX 970 is really good value for money right now and will play pretty much every other game on the market at ultra.

I also dont know how people get this....i dont believe it either.

I have never once in all the rigs, setups, styles, i have tried EVER seen this game go over 65 FPS.

[OznerpaG]

play MWO with all the graphics turned down to very low/off for 10-20 games and see how that feels. get used to it, and press F9 and note your avg frame rate

then turn on texturing only to very high, see what the difference is feel-wise and FPS wise for another 10 games - this is the setting that makes mechs look good, arguably the most important part of the game haha

if it still feels acceptable then turn object detail up to very high as well and test that out for a bit - this is the setting that makes terrain edges clearer

if you can pull off those 2 and everything seems smooth for your tastes then you'r good to go - those are the only 2 you need! save buying a new vid card unless you feel you need to after trying out what you already have

i have an i7 3.6gHz and nvidia GTX970 4Gb and that's all the settings i use

Edited by JagdFlanker, 08 December 2015 - 04:34 PM.