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#21 Khobai

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:22 PM

people aim for your CT so why wouldnt CT be the most common way you die?

games been like that for 3 years... nearly every assault in the game except for the stalker has a problem with their CT getting cored out and the rest of their armor not mattering much

#22 XX Sulla XX

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:23 PM

View PostOne Medic Army, on 16 June 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:

I've managed to get my sides open a couple times, but death is always through the CT. I do manage to lose my arms though, so long as someone isn't pt blank on me.
Ya I have spread damge on a few but its normally arms, legs and center torso.

#23 Nightshade24

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:24 PM

View PostDjPush, on 16 June 2015 - 09:44 PM, said:

Every match.... this.Posted ImagePosted Image





Looking at the video, the person did 0 armour rolling and allowed the enemy to rip at him. Meanwhile the final blow occured when the mech was powered down, stationary, and facin the enemy and some CT damage already happed after the rear hit badly...

Sorry. I see nothing here besides tunnel vision or bad piloting if you complain about "being hit in the CT"



I personally had no issue what so ever with the Executioner and due to the fact the MASC also helps rolling armour i have no problem soaking damage up and using MASC to roll armour quickly and I do not even have any basics yet

#24 Alistair Winter

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:26 PM

View PostThell, on 16 June 2015 - 09:52 PM, said:

DjPush, you didn't torso twist at all in that video.

Right?

I was expecting to see a video where streams of LRMs all homed in on his CT or something, but instead I got a video of an Execute trying to stare down a frickin Dire Wolf in a dakka contest.

Come on, Dj.

EDIT: Not to mention that the DW came at you with a stripped arm, and you actually targetted stripped his ST while he went straight for your CT.

Edited by Alistair Winter, 16 June 2015 - 10:33 PM.


#25 CaliburZero

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:46 PM

Ok, so i'm not the only one who thinks this. Although a certain someone in the other thread on the EXE basically told me "Torso twist better and L2P" <_<

Its funny

I've twisted in this thing like crazy and hae been doing so to the max amount of torso twist even allows for this thing (no basics). I haven't been able to get either ST to lose all of its armor so far, and I die pretty easily. Only way I can play this thing with the CT so far would be to take advantage of MASC where I peekabo for an alpha repeatedly, then use MASC to re-position/run away.

Someone mind posting a picture that's accurate of its hitboxes?

Edited by CaliburZero, 16 June 2015 - 11:08 PM.


#26 Curccu

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:52 PM

View PostMister D, on 16 June 2015 - 08:16 PM, said:

120 CT armor... DO NOT STARE AT YOUR ENEMY.

I didn't play one but couple friends of mine did, in same group and they seem to take front CT hits when they were not facing enemy... when they twisted ~90 degrees or even when turned their back to enemy, still front CT hits.
Might be same kind of issue that hellbringer had when it was released.

Edited by Curccu, 16 June 2015 - 10:52 PM.


#27 Thell

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:55 PM

Eh, it's just funny that people assume no one torso twists and doesn't know what they are talking about. Executioner has a funky CT, plain and simple.

#28 Cyborne Elemental

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 11:35 PM

Its the same thing with MR.Gargles, you have to overtwist like a madman.

Its the protruding chest, same deal on Orion, Quickdraw, Dragon, Thunderbolt.

You twist out damage until you're ready to shoot, line up a shot, fire, and twist again.

#29 Appogee

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 11:39 PM

It's a Clan Mech. Apparently they're not allowed to be destructible by IS Mechs.

#30 Aresye

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 11:40 PM

View Postkyrdragon, on 16 June 2015 - 09:32 PM, said:

Nah this is more of an issue than torso twisting. If I torso twist on my Daishi at least the side torsos take damage, if I twist on my Executioner, it all hits the CT.

I haven't lost an ST once all day. Something weird is going on.

View PostFupDup, on 16 June 2015 - 09:34 PM, said:

I haven't driven mine yet, but so far the ones on the enemy team seem to take a bit more damage to the CT than other places.


There's definitely something wrong. Not just for the front CT, but the back as well. I could have a near perfect side profile against the enemy and my CT still gets tanked before the rest.

In the meantime, I just stopped trying to twist damage in it. It doesn't work, so all it does is throw off my aim.

#31 XX Sulla XX

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:20 AM

View PostAresye Kerensky, on 16 June 2015 - 11:40 PM, said:


There's definitely something wrong. Not just for the front CT, but the back as well. I could have a near perfect side profile against the enemy and my CT still gets tanked before the rest.

In the meantime, I just stopped trying to twist damage in it. It doesn't work, so all it does is throw off my aim.
Exactly it does not shield like it should when your twisting. Something is borked on it.

#32 Hit the Deck

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:26 AM

I'd like to ask the same question again as Dracol, have you guys double basic'ed it? It only has 70 degrees of torso twist and even at 90 deg, I think a part of its CT could be still exposed.

Edited by Hit the Deck, 17 June 2015 - 12:30 AM.


#33 XX Sulla XX

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:46 AM

View PostHit the Deck, on 17 June 2015 - 12:26 AM, said:

I'd like to ask the same question again as Dracol, have you guys double basic'ed it? It only has 70 degrees of torso twist and even at 90 deg, I think a part of its CT could be still exposed.
I used GXP to double masic all of them. And so did other people I have been playing with. Also been watching other ones and they are getting CTed the vast majority of the time.

#34 kapusta11

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:56 AM

Lol, "Buff my gundam!!" What a bunch of whiners.

#35 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:43 AM

View PostThell, on 16 June 2015 - 09:33 PM, said:

All the torso twisting in the world doesn't save the executioner's CT.
I know... It's such a small Target How in teh world can we possibly hit it as often as we do???
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It's not like its the size of a 2 story building right!?

#36 Xenois Shalashaska

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 03:18 AM

Fix the damn CT. This thing is bad as the awesome when they had huge hit boxes, probably even worse.

#37 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 03:20 AM

View PostXenois Shalashaska, on 17 June 2015 - 03:18 AM, said:

Fix the damn CT. This thing is bad as the awesome when they had huge hit boxes, probably even worse.

Now to be devil's advocate here, Technically the Head is treated as part of the CT, so there are basically 2 hit boxes that count as the CT.

#38 Xeraphale

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 03:35 AM

The centre torso is either borked or too large and I can't tell which, but having taken this thing out for a few spins and torso twisting like a teenie-bopper at a Chubby Checker concert I can't seem to spread damage at all.

I would be interested to see someone with a little more time on their hands than me to figure out the hit boxes on the Executioner.

Otherwise, my first impressions of this mech are quite positive.

#39 Sarlic

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 03:54 AM

Hitbox teardown.
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=724dykJoc7Q

Edited by Sarlic, 17 June 2015 - 03:58 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 03:58 AM

View PostMister D, on 16 June 2015 - 08:16 PM, said:

120 CT armor... DO NOT STARE AT YOUR ENEMY.


You have MASC.... strafe and torso twist more.... Definitely not the mech to park face to face with a Direwolf. However a total baller if you know had to burst accelerate and torso twist...

Hands down my new favorite clan assault.

Edited by Creovex, 17 June 2015 - 03:59 AM.






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