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[Escef]

Solahma, on 25 June 2015 - 03:42 PM, said:

Testing grounds.... head on... that's one situation. Not including many many more. Against a mech with one of the better set of hitboxes. Demonstrates spread in that situation very well. How about from the side? How about in a live match where the player is twisted in one direction?

If you're going to test something to prove a point, maybe include more data? Or you could always stop half-way with data that supports your view... but hey, that's just a theory.

Then make your own damn video and post it, a**hole. How about that?

EDIT: OBS broadcasting software is free and can be used to record as well as broadcast. Creating a YouTube or Twitch channel is free as well.

Edited by Escef, 25 June 2015 - 04:04 PM.

[Solahma]

Roadkill, on 25 June 2015 - 03:52 PM, said:

I disagree. It's not that big of a deal, and the effect is desperately needed.

The effect that the weapon and build in question have on Light Mechs is desperately needed because Light Mech pilots as a general rule are far too cavalier. They're used to being about to use speed and bad hit registration to get them out of nearly any bad situation, and that shouldn't be.

The Streakcrow is a mediocre to bad build. It's exceptionally good at one thing, but even then only if its target makes a mistake. So what effect does that have on Light pilots?

It makes them think twice about blindly running over a hill or through open terrain. It makes them better pilots.

The existence of the Streakcrow (and Streakdog) in its current incarnation and with its current power is a good thing.

I can respect that opinion. I see it's bias in your belief that most light pilots are taking advantage, intentionally, of bad hit registration...

My opinion is that it's much easier to change SSRMs against lights, than address the overall issue of lights being in an overly vulnerable spot. Not only SSRMs are the REAL issue, but tweaking SSRMs would be one less weapon of major concern. I hate to use TT as an example, but the current role and playstyle of lights, because of the existance of SSRMs on the battlefield, is too high of a risk for too little reward. Gameplay in lights is now reduced to poptarting from cover. It's not the type of Light gameplay I personally like to see in a MW title.

SSRMs aren't the root of this issue, but they certainly contribute largely.

[bad arcade kitty]

Roadkill, on 25 June 2015 - 03:52 PM, said:

Light Mech pilots as a general rule are far too cavalier. They're used to being about to use speed and bad hit registration to get them out of nearly any bad situation, and that shouldn't be.

this

[Solahma]

Escef, on 25 June 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Then make your own damn video and post it, a**hole. How about that?

EDIT: OBS broadcasting software is free and can be used to record as well as broadcast. Creating a YouTube or Twitch channel is free as well.

I would, if I cared enough. I thought you might have with your initial videos, but I guess not. This a**hole would rather work on a backlog of fun videos.

[Escef]

Solahma, on 25 June 2015 - 04:07 PM, said:

I would, if I cared enough. I thought you might have with your initial videos, but I guess not. This a**hole would rather work on a backlog of fun videos.

Well, apparently you want to throw around accusations of bias and dishonesty, but not back them up. You wanna pull that crap and wuss out, fine. Thank you for demonstrating the quality of your character.

[Solahma]

Escef, on 25 June 2015 - 04:10 PM, said:

Well, apparently you want to throw around accusations of bias and dishonesty, but not back them up. You wanna pull that crap and wuss out, fine. Thank you for demonstrating the quality of your character.

LOL I point out that your videos aren't the end-all-be-all of streaks like you claim and voice very clearly in the videos. But hey, I guess it's supposed to be my job to finish what you started. When I refuse due to lack of interest, I'm a wuss? But you're data still isn't complete. It's a fact, not an opinion. Don't be mad just because I pointed it out.

[Alek Ituin]

FupDup, on 24 June 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

Streaks as a whole are a poorly-designed Legacy Feature™ that swing on a pendulum from cheesy to craptastic depending on the target, and that haven't been touched in ages.


Back in those days, the IS SSRM2 hit the CT the vast majority of the time, which made them completely stupid. Carrying just 2-3 of the SSRM2 back then was nearly autowin against lights and they also could put the hurt on larger targets as well.

*remembers CB CPLT SSRM boats*

*remembers watching Atlas CT's exploding in one SSRM alpha*


*cries*

Edited by Alek Ituin, 25 June 2015 - 04:15 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

and also about your situation, yet again it was your fault that you were caught, plenty of mechs would one shot you in that situation, and as for running past the streakboat, it's not a 100% guarantee save, yeah, you could meet her teammates or even get the second salvo anyway if the terrain was against you, (why do you think you deserve a 100% ticket from any bad situation?) but the chances are that you could find a cover past her back while turning on spot was a death with no chance to escape, so it was your second mistake

[Andi Nagasia]

Escef, on 25 June 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Then make your own damn video and post it, a**hole. How about that?

EDIT: OBS broadcasting software is free and can be used to record as well as broadcast. Creating a YouTube or Twitch channel is free as well.

you dont have to defend your self, no Tuber should,
anyone who knows they are fighting a StreakBoat knows to Stair it down,
your Videos where great, and display the advantages and disadvantages of the weapons,

[Solahma]

bad arcade kitty, on 25 June 2015 - 04:16 PM, said:

and also about your situation, yet again it was your fault that you were caught, plenty of mechs would one shot you in that situation, and as for running past the streakboat, it's not a 100% guarantee save, yeah, you could meet her teammates or even get the second salvo anyway if the terrain was against you, (why do you think you deserve a 100% ticket from any bad situation?) but the chances are that you could find a cover past her back while turning on spot was a death with no chance to escape, so it was your second mistake

Keep bringing it up to try and point things out via pure speculation. Getting "caught" in that situation like I knew it was going to happen. Or like he knew I was there before hand. It was a completely 100% random encounter. He had intended on finding someone, yes, but he had absolutely no knowledge i was there and neither did I. So "getting" caught is actually quite a statement.
You can stop now.
you're beating the proverbial at this point.
We've moved on.

Edited by Solahma, 25 June 2015 - 04:22 PM.

[InspectorG]

Andi Nagasia, on 24 June 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

its not Like IS has a weapon, that can do 20PP-FLD, that only has a 4sec Cooldown,
for the same tonnage, same range, and have 49 shots(7Tons of AC20 Ammo),

Edit- Spelling

I know ! Really!
PGI needs to buff IS Gauss!!!

SoggyGorilla, on 24 June 2015 - 04:19 PM, said:

what does the inner sphere have that can counter 6x6 streak mad dog? or 5x6 streak crow?


i don't understand why this became the new meta, but they forced everyone to use that now instead of laser vomit.

does anyone agree with me on this?

Dual Gauss is WAY scarier than a streak crow ever will be. Specially if the pilot has good aim.

Use cover, streaks cant go around corners very well. Leg that crow. Pick him apart at a leisurely range.

[Andi Nagasia]

guys if we are gonna debate this then we need to set rules,

1) we have to assume when 2 people fight they know the Strengths&weaknesses of their Opponents weapons,
(Staring down Streaks)(Twisting to roll laser damage)(using cover when Fighting LRMs)

2) Each Facet of the Battle is taken into Consideration, Play Styles
(a Light Running away from a Streak Boat cant really Face it to spread the Damage across the Front)
(a Light Running circles around a Streak boat can easily target as the Boat needs to Face the Light Down)

3) Mechs Classes, the Size as mechs,
(some weapons work on Lights(Streaks) some work more on Slow Heavies(LRms)
Edit-

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 25 June 2015 - 04:33 PM.

[Solahma]

InspectorG, on 25 June 2015 - 04:30 PM, said:

Dual Gauss is WAY scarier than a streak crow ever will be.

Dual Guass is probably responsible for over twice as many light deaths than any other weapon in the game...

A part of my heart still wishes the Boomphract was still a thing... rip

Edited by Solahma, 25 June 2015 - 04:35 PM.

[InspectorG]

Solahma, on 25 June 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

Dual Guass is probably responsible for over twice as many light deaths than any other weapon in the game...

A part of my heart still wishes the Boomphract was still a thing... rip

Yeah.

At least with ACs the projectile drop can save you out of the pilot's gunnery error.

Gauss30 right to my ST or leg...PLUNK...im done. If i do survive that component is deep red and then i got the fear.

[Nadezhda]

What in the world? What game on earth are you playing?

We're not talking about 1 streakcrow.

We're talking about 6 or 7 streakcrows aimed at a Zeus. Each streakcrow shoots only one alpha, it takes out a Zeus side torso and he's dead.

In the perspective of an individual streakcrow, one alpha to one mech, and then move on to the next mech. That's all.
And they're immune to focus fire too because no IS commander can call targets as they're invis under the 4 ECM hellbringers. "Shoot that stormcrow!" is not very helpful is it?

[Solahma]

InspectorG, on 25 June 2015 - 04:39 PM, said:

Gauss30 right to my ST or leg...PLUNK...im done. If i do survive that component is deep red and then i got the fear.

At that point, you run away from that guy with the good aim, then run head-first into a streak boat that will most definitely hit that open torso regardless of how much you don't want him too

Edited by Solahma, 25 June 2015 - 04:43 PM.

[Andi Nagasia]

Solahma, on 25 June 2015 - 04:42 PM, said:

At that point, you run away from that guy with the good aim, then run head-first into a streak boat that will most definitely hit that open torso

OR runn into a LBX10 and a Good shot, OR,....
get noticed by a LRM Rain Boat who knows how to Troll,

[InspectorG]

Solahma, on 25 June 2015 - 04:42 PM, said:

At that point, you run away from that guy with the good aim, then run head-first into a streak boat that will most definitely hit that open torso regardless of how much you don't want him too

At that point i hide behind the nearest teammate.

I have no shame in regards to this.

[bad arcade kitty]

Nadezhda, on 25 June 2015 - 04:40 PM, said:

What in the world? What game on earth are you playing?

We're not talking about 1 streakcrow.

We're talking about 6 or 7 streakcrows aimed at a Zeus. Each streakcrow shoots only one alpha, it takes out a Zeus side torso and he's dead.

In the perspective of an individual streakcrow, one alpha to one mech, and then move on to the next mech. That's all.
And they're immune to focus fire too because no IS commander can call targets as they're invis under the 4 ECM hellbringers. "Shoot that stormcrow!" is not very helpful is it?

hahaha, in your description it reminds me that agent smith swarm attack in matrix, with zeus in the role of neo



you are not serious, i hope

[Solahma]

InspectorG, on 25 June 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

At that point i hide behind the nearest teammate.

I have no shame in regards to this.

That reminds me of LMAO's latest video where an enemy is killed by his own turret to end the match

edit, was ML turret, not LRM

https://youtu.be/YN8Un7o3xh4?t=1m38s

Edited by Solahma, 25 June 2015 - 04:51 PM.