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[Wintersdark]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 June 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

.... are you forgetting about the jump jets?

You can strip the arms, give it Ferro, 2 Gauss, 6tons of armor, and 2 JJs. A poptarter's delight!

Well, if you strip ALL the armor off the arms, run an XL200 for 71KPH, you've got 30.5t free after your two mandatory DHS. 24t go to dual gauss, so that leaves 6.5t free for ammo, jump jets.

Edited by Wintersdark, 26 June 2015 - 02:29 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Wintersdark, on 26 June 2015 - 02:28 PM, said:

Well, if you strip ALL the armor off the arms, run an XL200 for 71KPH, you've got 30.5t free after your two mandatory DHS. 24t go to dual gauss, so that leaves 6.5t free for ammo, jump jets.

Did McGral mess up his maths? In that case 5.5 tons of ammo and 2 jets? or 6 tons and 1 jet? Eh works for me. Poptarting with 2 Gauss shoulder mounted like that will be a delight.

[Wintersdark]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 June 2015 - 02:30 PM, said:

Did McGral mess up his maths? In that case 5.5 tons of ammo and 2 jets? or 6 tons and 1 jet? Eh works for me. Poptarting with 2 Gauss shoulder mounted like that will be a delight.

I was experimenting with this: HBK-4G

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

I'd quirk the thing like so:

Maximum armor limit -15%
Ballistic Heat -15%
cUAC20 Heat -15%
cUAC20 Jam Chance -50%

[Gas Guzzler]

Wintersdark, on 26 June 2015 - 02:31 PM, said:

I was experimenting with this: HBK-4G

Ah I think Clan Ferro is a bit lighter.

[Mcgral18]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 June 2015 - 02:30 PM, said:

Did McGral mess up his maths? In that case 5.5 tons of ammo and 2 jets? or 6 tons and 1 jet? Eh works for me. Poptarting with 2 Gauss shoulder mounted like that will be a delight.

You need to remove 4 points off the legs as well, as there's that portion of a ton.


SSW just displays half tons and "wasted" armour tonnage.

[Wintersdark]

Mcgral18, on 26 June 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

You need to remove 4 points off the legs as well, as there's that portion of a ton.


SSW just displays half tons and "wasted" armour tonnage.

Yeah, I pulled them off the cockpit, was just doing it fast for testing

Gas Guzzler, on 26 June 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

Ah I think Clan Ferro is a bit lighter.

I don't think so. It's just 7s instead of 14t; same tonnage savings.

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 26 June 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

I'd quirk the thing like so:

Maximum armor limit -15%
Ballistic Heat -15%
cUAC20 Heat -15%
cUAC20 Jam Chance -50%

New mechs should all start with no quirks. Particularly Clan mechs. Add later if necessary.

[InspectorG]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 June 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

and with a bass

Because i would totally slap that sh*t.

Bootsy Collins camo for my HBK IIC.

[Gas Guzzler]

Hmm I could have sworn Clan Ferro was lighter... oh well.

[Templar Dane]

InspectorG, on 26 June 2015 - 02:18 PM, said:

Am i the only one who wants to take the Dakka out of the torsos and install a wicked *ss sound system????

Hunchback evolves to BOOMBACK. Bass Guitar included.

The jamback

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Wintersdark, on 26 June 2015 - 02:31 PM, said:

I was experimenting with this: HBK-4G

cFF is better than IS FF, so I think you lost a bit of weight there. IS is 12% more per ton, c is 20%.

Edited by Levi Porphyrogenitus, 26 June 2015 - 02:39 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Wintersdark, on 26 June 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

Yeah, I pulled them off the cockpit, was just doing it fast for testing


I don't think so. It's just 7s instead of 14t; same tonnage savings.

I've been doing my own testing...having even 17 armour means a Dual Gauss robot has a 42+% chance (TCs increase by x amount) to one shot your face...Over 52% chance with a Mk7


I don't like that.

[Wintersdark]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 26 June 2015 - 02:38 PM, said:

cFF is better than IS FF, so I think you lost a bit of weight there.

Ah, just checked up on that. i was unaware, so thanks (and Guzzler, too) - my bad.

20% instead of 12%

[Mcgral18]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 June 2015 - 02:36 PM, said:

Hmm I could have sworn Clan Ferro was lighter... oh well.

It does, 35.84 points of armour per ton for IS FF, to 38.4 for Clams.

Marginal, but if the mech had 10 tons of armour, that's over 20 points more/less.

Edited by Mcgral18, 26 June 2015 - 02:41 PM.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Wintersdark, on 26 June 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

New mechs should all start with no quirks. Particularly Clan mechs. Add later if necessary.

I was assuming most players would roll with dual Gauss and max armor, both of which violate the spirit of the Hunchback IIc. Adding quirks (immediately or eventually) to limit or prevent those behaviors would be a priority for me if I were designing the thing.

[Wintersdark]

Mcgral18, on 26 June 2015 - 02:39 PM, said:

I've been doing my own testing...having even 17 armour means a Dual Gauss robot has a 42+% chance (TCs increase by x amount) to one shot your face...Over 52% chance with a Mk7


I don't like that.

Eh, still not seeing this as a big deal. Headshots are really hard, a dual gauss mech with TC7 is basically limited to Dire Wolves... And still requires dual gauss head shots to even have a chance.

[Moldur]

Double UAC 5 will be normie build

Double LBX 20 for no ghost heat will be for Pointblank CTing people and obliterating lights.

Dual Gauss because it can.

[Wintersdark]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 26 June 2015 - 02:41 PM, said:

I was assuming most players would roll with dual Gauss and max armor, both of which violate the spirit of the Hunchback IIc. Adding quirks (immediately or eventually) to limit or prevent those behaviors would be a priority for me if I were designing the thing.

People "violate the spirit" of practically every mech released. *shrugs*

[Moldur]

Wintersdark, on 26 June 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

People "violate the spirit" of practically every mech released. *shrugs*

Wait, you mean the firestarter is meant to have flamers? hahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHA

[One Medic Army]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 June 2015 - 02:36 PM, said:

Hmm I could have sworn Clan Ferro was lighter... oh well.

It is lighter. 20% more per ton rather than 12%, IIRC (probably off by half a percent or something).