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[Soy]

So I could feed my children more.

There. I said it.



Unghost 3 PPCs, dammit!

[Burktross]

More than enough to drive a man past madness, b0ss.

[Lexx]

The only mech that should be able to fire 3 PPCs (or ERPPC) without ghost heat is the Awesome.

[FupDup]

Lexx, on 26 June 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

The only mech that should be able to fire 3 PPCs (or ERPPC) without ghost heat is the Awesome.

By that logic, Warhawks and Hellstars (when they're available) should be able to fire 4.

[pbiggz]

that music...

if you stare long into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you...

[Soy]

pbiggz, on 26 June 2015 - 04:19 PM, said:

that music...

if you stare long into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you...

Yes it was sort of an experiment in semantic satiation! ;D

[Paigan]

I want 4 unghosted LPL for my Wubhawk!
There. .

Anyone else? Maybe 12 unghosted ERML for the Nova?

[Monkey Lover]

Before anything is changed we got to see how much ttk increases with the highest fixes.

[Nightshade24]

Lexx, on 26 June 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

The only mech that should be able to fire 3 PPCs (or ERPPC) without ghost heat is the Awesome.

Not really... it was made to fire them in streams to help it cool down and remain very cool to avoid the penalties of higher heat.

if anything, this mech should ghost heat at 2 ppc's and have a faster heat dissipation rate... however the warhawk on the other end was made for the occasional alpha....

Paigan, on 26 June 2015 - 04:50 PM, said:

I want 4 unghosted LPL for my Wubhawk!
There. .

Anyone else? Maybe 12 unghosted ERML for the Nova?

Nova will still over heat at the alpha of that in MW: O =c

[1453 R]

...the hell did you just do to my brain, Soy. I need that brain, it pays my Internet bills...

[Soy]

Nightshade24, on 26 June 2015 - 05:10 PM, said:

if anything, this mech should ghost heat at 2 ppc's

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a5f66b347ad2949

[Nightshade24]

Soy, on 26 June 2015 - 05:17 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a5f66b347ad2949

sorry to tell you, but that isn't an awesome.

[Soy]

If this game quirked around stock stuff more reliably, it'd be cool if the Awesome was a PPC beast, sure.

I go by "feel" in game and this mech and Sparky are the only things bigger than a Light that can run n gun tart w/ these weps in the current game/meta...

[Y E O N N E]

Soy, on 26 June 2015 - 05:50 PM, said:

If this game quirked around stock stuff more reliably, it'd be cool if the Awesome was a PPC beast, sure.

I go by "feel" in game and this mech and Sparky are the only things bigger than a Light that can run n gun tart w/ these weps in the current game/meta...

What, no love for the BJ-3? Does it faster and cooler than the Nova.

[Soy]

I only do Heroes on IS side so I prefer Sparky... I think BJ-3 can't soak properly either, so...

[Fate 6]

Lexx, on 26 June 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

The only mech that should be able to fire 3 PPCs (or ERPPC) without ghost heat is the Awesome.

Warhawk cries in a corner

[Y E O N N E]

Soy, on 26 June 2015 - 05:58 PM, said:

I only do Heroes on IS side so I prefer Sparky... I think BJ-3 can't soak properly either, so...

Eh, I dunno about the soak. CT easier to guard on the Blackjack, overall smaller profile and higher hit-points means less exposure. Armor/structure buffs pretty much level it off against the Nova. When I die in the BJ3, it usually looks a lot like your Nova does when you finally go down; one leg and open everywhere.

Can't do **** about the C-bill bonus, tho'.

[Soy]

When we did the Slap Club test fights, Vindicator was all over BJ even tho the BJ was quirked out for ML and they were both using them... specifically cuz of the armpits being exposed 24/7... =/

Also the BJ will go slower or run hotter and thus have less DPS than the 2 PPC Nova... =/

Sad but kinda how it is...

[Zordicron]

I want....

to remove GH all together from PPC. There, I said that.

No, I am actually serious. lasers have gotten to a place where they are simply more heat efficient for the same dmg. PPC projectiles are slow, a lot of players won't even run two of them because they prefer lasers of similar tonnage value due to heat and cooldown times, and most importantly, ease of use- point and click.

I mean I dunno, I guess we could leave GH at like 5 or something so the hexaPPC stalkers dont show back up. But really, even a Warhawk i think would have issues doing an alpha strike. And really, even if they could manage, are we really worried about a 40 point(yeah yeah bonus dmg too) alpha anymore, when we have 70+ point laser barf loadouts walking around for similar heat? Yeah ERPPC is longer range.... with slow projectiles that have a high skill floor. I see that as a wash.

I would like to do an "undocumented" experiment like they did with AC2's a little while back, just set GH to 5 in the background and let the small in the know forumites do a test run for some feedback. IMO, being able to fire 4 is not going to be any worse then what we have in game now, just different, and less sustainable to boot.

[Soy]

A wash, indeed! Indubitably.