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[InnerSphereNews]

Hello MechWarriors!

As mentioned in the most recent Townhall, we are letting the community decide which top 5 'Mechs are to be re-scaled!

There will be 3 parts to the voting process to conclude which top 5 'Mechs will be re-scaled!

Begin Part 1 by voting on the following polls:

Light 'Mechs re-scale poll

Medium 'Mechs re-scale poll

Heavy 'Mechs re-scale poll

Assault 'Mechs re-scale poll

The polls can be found in the forums in Developer Outreach > Mech Re-Scale sub-forum.

On July 9th, 1PM PDT, the 3 most voted on 'Mechs from each poll will be collected for the Part 2 poll. 

In Part 2, you will be able to vote the top 5 'Mechs you want re-scaled out of the 12 collected from the Part 1 polls.

Part 3 will then consist a poll for each of the top 5 'Mech where you can vote whether the 'Mech should be scaled up, or scaled down.

[EAP10]

Good on you guys for doing this! Voted for all of them.

[mp00]

Awesome! I mean I vote Awesome! The Awesome! This is Awesome! umm just Awesome..

[Túatha Dé Danann]

mp00, on 03 July 2015 - 02:44 PM, said:

Awesome! I mean I vote Awesome! The Awesome! This is Awesome! umm just Awesome..

Scale it up!

[Shredhead]

Who the hell voted for Nova? Why? It's small enough, and you can not change it being broad as a barn, that's courtesy to FASA.
Nice poll btw, like it very much.

Edited by Shredhead, 03 July 2015 - 02:53 PM.

[Footman]

Nova's arms and legs need to be smaller...

[Nothing Whatsoever]

Neat.

[PhoenixNMGLB]

I hope this is just a precursor to a general rescaling and not just a case of only rescaling 5 mechs.

There are more than 5 in serious need of alteration

[Cranky Puppy]

I would like to see the URBAN MECH RESIZED......make it the SAME SIZE AS THE ATLAS.....100 TON....WITH 16 WEAPONS.

I am still pushing for a 16 Weapon Atlas as well.

Inner Sphere needs more GUNS GUNS and MORE GUNS.
GIVE US MORE GUNS

[PhoenixNMGLB]

Cranky Puppy, on 03 July 2015 - 03:22 PM, said:

I would like to see the URBAN MECH RESIZED......make it the SAME SIZE AS THE ATLAS.....100 TON....WITH 16 WEAPONS.

I am still pushing for a 16 Weapon Atlas as well.

Inner Sphere needs more GUNS GUNS and MORE GUNS.
GIVE US MORE GUNS

Someone please give this guy an atlas w 16 fixed machine guns and a massive engine - 150kph dakka atlas

[bad arcade kitty]

Cranky Puppy, on 03 July 2015 - 03:22 PM, said:

I would like to see the URBAN MECH RESIZED......make it the SAME SIZE AS THE ATLAS.....100 TON....

it's called mackie



http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mackie

[Spurowny]

having us choose one from each weight class is dumb, as all the biggest offenders are mediums and heavies (centurion, trebuchet, cataphract).

Edit: apparently you can vote for as many as you like on each poll

Edited by Spurowny, 03 July 2015 - 03:42 PM.

[Deathlike]

More than half the mechs need rescaling.

The majority of them ironically are Medium.

[bad arcade kitty]

Spurowny, on 03 July 2015 - 03:33 PM, said:

having us choose one from each weight class is dumb, as all the biggest offenders are mediums and heavies (centurion, trebuchet, cataphract).

you think awesome and kit fox don't need any help?

also i see nothing wrong with cent and catfruit, quikdrow or catpult on the other hand...

[PhoenixNMGLB]

bad arcade kitty, on 03 July 2015 - 03:36 PM, said:

you think awesome and kit fox don't need any help?

also i see nothing wrong with cent and catfruit, quikdrow or catpult on the other hand...

I think all of the mechs you mentioned need help, along with the Warhawk, nova, vindicator and I am sure more than a few others

[Zordicron]

About "scale up or down"

PGI, you guys might as well understand the first 5 are all, for sure, going to be "scale down". There are too many older mechs that suffer from simply being designed when you guys were still new to the whole mech design thing. Most of the old manwalker mediums for example, Trebuchet for sure, but even into the Pheonix pack with Shawk. I won;t even start on the Awesome.

I mean if you guys are thinking some one on the forums here might want to scale up say, the Stalker, because it is pretty potent- heh, for one I doubt you will see players voting to "nerf" a mech, but I could be wrong. Suffice to say, i doubt you will see anything but "PGI shrink plz" for the first round.

[OznerpaG]

vote for the mechs with the lowest hardpoints - IMO an over-scaled mech isn't a big deal if it's weapons are at cockpit level and it can fire behind cover w/o exposing itself regardless if it's twice the height of every other mech

[Mawai]

Hi,

Out of curiosity ... what if the problem is that they all need rescaling ... perhaps some more than others?

By selecting 5 mechs to be rescaled is this going to rescale them in line with the other existing mechs or is it going to rescale them to where all of the mechs should have been in the first place?

Presumably, when you designed the mechs they were in scale using some system or formula? Does voting to rescale them now invalidate that formula? What will be the basis for developing a new scaling for every mech if you rescale some of the existing ones?

In terms of scaling, what if the issue with these mechs is not the scale but the hit boxes or hit registration? Could rescaling essentially just hide a bug somewhere else and then make the rescaled mechs too effective when the bug is fixed?

Finally, I am just curious what the basis for rescaling selected mechs is? Since not all players play all mechs it seems a little ludicrous to get folks to vote on it ... alternatively, perhaps PGI has hit data available that would indicate which mechs are the easiest to hit in each class ... perhaps these would be the best choices for rescaling or a hit box pass. Either way it seems to me that voting has to be one of the worst ways to decide what to do to specific mechs to improve game balance ... since rescaling is related to nothing other than balance in terms of how easy that mech is to hit.

[IraqiWalker]

Cranky Puppy, on 03 July 2015 - 03:22 PM, said:

I would like to see the URBAN MECH RESIZED......make it the SAME SIZE AS THE ATLAS.....100 TON....WITH 16 WEAPONS.

I am still pushing for a 16 Weapon Atlas as well.

Inner Sphere needs more GUNS GUNS and MORE GUNS.
GIVE US MORE GUNS

Don't you mean GIVE US THE IMP

[Lyoto Machida]

Wait, we can pick more than one per class?