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[White Bear 84]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 July 2015 - 02:03 PM, said:

Supposedly the M.

Of course, there are none with like 6-8 lasers in the leg as shown in some of the cartoons


the cartoon is not canon though, and the canon version is the "M" packing a C-ERPPC, C-LB-10X, Steak6 and ERSL.

I think I know what im doing with my morning now..

[Lostdragon]

reddevil, on 12 July 2015 - 10:35 AM, said:

Does anyone have a link to some video of using the current Summoner effectively? I'd like to see the maneuver style in action.

Video 2 is finished uploading and currently processing so it will be available soon. My favorite sequence of all three videos starts about 4:50 in this one when I engage an AC40 Jagermech and fake him out at the saddle then destroy him through his side torso. http://youtu.be/nPey_XiP-0Y

Edit: I've also got a bonus 4th video in which AlphaOmegaMech, the pilot of the DWF destroyed at the end of my first video is on my team. Once again he has a great showing and with our powers combined our team comes out on top.

Edited by Lostdragon, 12 July 2015 - 05:01 PM.

[Lostdragon]

Lostdragon, on 12 July 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

Video 2 is finished uploading and currently processing so it will be available soon. My favorite sequence of all three videos starts about 4:50 in this one when I engage an AC40 Jagermech and fake him out at the saddle then destroy him through his side torso. http://youtu.be/nPey_XiP-0Y

Edit: I've also got a bonus 4th video in which AlphaOmegaMech, the pilot of the DWF destroyed at the end of my first video is on my team. Once again he has a great showing and with our powers combined our team comes out on top.

Video 3 is currently processing, will probably post video 4 tomorrow as I am going to sleep soon.

http://youtu.be/8-2JW85WGEE

[Hit the Deck]

Lostdragon, on 12 July 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

....
Edit: I've also got a bonus 4th video in which AlphaOmegaMech, the pilot of the DWF destroyed at the end of my first video is on my team. Once again he has a great showing and with our powers combined our team comes out on top.

Is vid 4 on Frozen City? I remember LURMing a AOM's DWF there but I was distracted and he got away....

[Lostdragon]

Hit the Deck, on 12 July 2015 - 06:23 PM, said:

Is vid 4 on Frozen City? I remember LURMing a AOM's DWF there but I was distracted and he got away....

Yes, you were on the Opfor, top damage for your team (by 1 point!).

[Havyek]

GR+ERPPC+JJs=Profit

[Lostdragon]

Hit the Deck, on 12 July 2015 - 06:23 PM, said:

Is vid 4 on Frozen City? I remember LURMing a AOM's DWF there but I was distracted and he got away....

Video 4 link, still uploading and will have to process: http://youtu.be/5ui8mxZ3Ems

[bad arcade kitty]

where did you strip 1+ ton of armor from btw, head and legs?

also timber would run that build better

Edited by bad arcade kitty, 12 July 2015 - 07:58 PM.

[RedDevil]

Nice videos! Thanks for this

[Hit the Deck]

Lostdragon, on 12 July 2015 - 07:20 PM, said:

Video 4 link, still uploading and will have to process: http://youtu.be/5ui8mxZ3Ems

"This video is private."

[Zaldier]

Don't really like links that try to look like other websites youtu.be ? no thanks.

[Widowmaker1981]

I can think of about 1 viable use for the Thor right now - twin UAC/5 high mounted, used for Vitric Forge games in CW so you can jump on the buildings and high mounted peek dakka people. Thats it though, every other use is better on another mech.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Keep it for the sake that a completely new from-the-ground-up balancing system will be launching in a few months. It may make the mech more desirable.

Now the new balance system may not work, or might be great but not effect the Summoner much, but either way i'd hang onto it till then.

I was going to clean house myself, but decided to wait and see how the balancing pass will affect things.

[mogs01gt]

aniviron, on 12 July 2015 - 01:34 PM, said:

The Summoner is terrible if your Elo isn't in the bottom bucket; it's certainly in the running for worst heavy in the game. The Stormcrow does everything it does better, with the exception of some fairly weak poptart builds.

That said, I have been having fun with a couple of mine. UAC20 + 3SRM6 is pretty nasty when you get in close, though the SMN doesn't have the tonnage to keep the ammo going for long. That's okay though, everyone will focus you quickly because you're a free kill as far as most people are concerned, so they'll chase you like they would a Locust or Urbanmech and there's never really time to run out of ammo. Generally, that's enough to take a couple mechs down with you though.

I 100% agree. About the only thing you can do is gimmick build likes poptarting or streaks. Hell if LRMs were effective, an LRM Summoner could be useful due to decent missile perks.

gauss+4ermls is pretty meh. Especially when you can run the exact same build on a Shawk and actually be able to use the Gauss without exposing half your torso.

Im going to keep it until the mech starts costing me money sitting in a bay and pray it gets some good quirks.

Edited by mogs01gt, 13 July 2015 - 04:23 AM.

[Creovex]

ilikerice, on 11 July 2015 - 09:37 AM, said:

The problem is that it IS a light mech in a heavy body, but people dont run it that way. You can load up the hardpoints and you dont need heatsinks because you cool down while running from position to position, not facetanking the enemy.

You can make a super mobile lrm100 in this guy, or even dual gauss. Lots of builds are possible when you run less armour, and if you're quick and plan your attacks you dont need it. The playstyle needs to change, not the mech.

My exact argument from day one when this mech dropped. I like hit and run / mobile tactics and this mech is in my drop deck for clan in CW.

2xCERLL, 3XSSRM and it does so well in CW that your momma be sending you to Bel Air due the beating you get...

[Lostdragon]

Hit the Deck, on 13 July 2015 - 12:33 AM, said:

"This video is private."

Sorry, it's published now. I don't think I ever saw you, but I did see a notice AOM killed you right after I took out another WHK.

[Twilight Fenrir]

I sold my first one as soon as I basiced it... But, after a year, or however long it's been since they went Cbill purchasable, I decided to give them another try... And I've actually been having a lot of fun, and decent matches with mine.

I have 2 good variants, and while I can definitely say my Ebon Jaguar is a much better mech, the Summoner is still a fun mech to play. Plus, it was my favorite mech in MW4, and I like the look of it...

CUAC20 + 5-SRM2 is a pretty mean brawler, actually. And once you've got speed tweak you can capitalize on the Summoner's mobility.

4ERLLs runs a bit hot, obviously, but I can wrack up 600 damage with it fairly often. It's mobility really makes it nice for flanking and shooting from range.

[Ultimax]

mogs01gt, on 13 July 2015 - 04:22 AM, said:

I 100% agree. About the only thing you can do is gimmick build likes poptarting or streaks. Hell if LRMs were effective, an LRM Summoner could be useful due to decent missile perks.

Would you be so kind as to enlighten us with this amazing non "gimmick" build that you want to run?


Hopefully it's as unique, creative and down-right exciting as the FS9-H with 2x MLAS, a single AC 2 and ONE machine gun that I had the utmost pleasure of spectating this weekend as our team was roflstomped back to the mechlab.

mogs01gt, on 13 July 2015 - 04:22 AM, said:

gauss+4ermls is pretty meh. Especially when you can run the exact same build on a Shawk and actually be able to use the Gauss without exposing half your torso.

The Shadowhawk will die easier, and has massively crappier MLAS to work with.

Please exit the realm of make-believe.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 13 July 2015 - 05:59 AM.

[mogs01gt]

Ultimatum X, on 13 July 2015 - 05:59 AM, said:

The Shadowhawk will die easier, and has massively crappier MLAS to work with.
Please exit the realm of make-believe.

BS

The Shawk can hill hump for days. Stop being stupid.

[Ultimax]

mogs01gt, on 13 July 2015 - 06:26 AM, said:

BS

The Shawk can hill hump for days. Stop being stupid.

If you can't hill hump or poptart with the torso mounted Gauss on a Summoner, and survive longer with CXL and more armor - then that's you're failing.