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[Rhaythe]

cdlord, on 21 July 2015 - 04:26 AM, said:

Though I will say, for my playstyle, the Grey Death was a pleasant surprise.

Is it a bad thing that I fly my Gray Death like a hunchback 4G with Jumpjets?

[The Ratfink]

For performance it is the ENFORCER ENF-4R, its just a beast, very tanky for an XL. I have the most number of games played in it and the highest KD, 250 XL, AC10 and 5 ML.

For fun its my Yen Lo Wang. Rediscovered it since I went to an 300 XL, AC20 and 2 MPL, so much more agile but without the zombie goodness.

[Piney II]

My Cents have taken some serious poundings and remained functional - sometimes to my amazement.

[Paigan]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 July 2015 - 04:26 AM, said:

So one broken Medium with broken animations and Hitboxes means that Mediums are on par with Heavies?

That sarcasm...

Let me say it this way:
1.) Even with "fixed" hitboxes, my statement about SCR vs. heavies would/will hold
2.) The Nova is currently way too big. Once it gets fixed, it might very well be on par with half of the clan heavies. You can't just fit 12 ERSL on a MDD :-D. And there is this one Steiner guy having pretty detailed posts about the Nova's potential, you know ;-).
3.) There are currently only 3 medium clan mechs. You say "one mech", I say "33% of all clan mediums". Tonight it will be four mediums. Than I'd say "50%" of all medium mechs. And "75%" once the Nova will be fixed. If speed is important (I'm not that super-speed kind of guy, so I hate the Ferret, but that's just me), then it will be 100%.

Apart from all that: yes, one mech disproving your statement disproves your statement. That's how it works.

More sarcasm now or approval?

Edited by Paigan, 21 July 2015 - 04:46 AM.

[CDLord HHGD]

Rhaythe, on 21 July 2015 - 04:29 AM, said:

Is it a bad thing that I fly my Gray Death like a hunchback 4G with Jumpjets?

Not at all.

I use an AC10 in mine, seems a good fit for the rest of the loadout. I originally used an AC20 like in my 4G, but again, there's nothing like a HBK-4G.

[Viges]

Cicada

Not the best but favorite

[Juodas Varnas]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 July 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

Apparently the masses disagree with us on this "Centy needs rescale because it dies easy".

SMH. Learn to twist and use cover. Well run Centy still tougher than nails.

Here i thought, people voted (at least I voted, before seeing that it might overtake the Quickdraw, which is when i switched the vote to the aforementioned Quickdraw) not because it "dies easy", but because it looks aesthetically not as good as it could look.

[Epoksi]

Enforcer. Any model. Any time.

[Rhaythe]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 July 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

Well run Centy still tougher than nails.

Even moreso if you refuse to run an XL in it.

[Bishop Steiner]

Paigan, on 21 July 2015 - 04:31 AM, said:

That sarcasm...

Let me say it this way:
1.) Even with "fixed" hitboxes, my statement about SCR vs. heavies would/will hold
2.) The Nova is currently way too big. Once it gets fixed, it might very well be on par with half of the clan heavies. You can't just fit 12 ERSL on a MDD :-D. And there is this one Steiner guy having pretty detailed posts about the Nova's potential, you know ;-).
3.) There are currently only 3 medium clan mechs. You say "one mech", I say "33% of all clan mediums". Tonight it will be four mediums. Than I'd say "50%" of all medium mechs. And "75%" once the Nova will be fixed.

Apart from all that: yes, one mech disproving your statement disproves your statement. That's how it works.

More sarcasm now or approval?

So...the 11 IS Mediums don't count when saying Mediums are generally second class citizens? And a Well done MDD will still own a Nova barring insano quirks. Ice Ferret is...bad, and Scat won¡t pack the punch or armor to truly challenge, though it should make one HECK of a harasser.

So yeah, even if your supposition holds true, that's 1 Medium out of 15, better than 1 or 2 Heavies. (Sorry but a "fixed" Crow I doubt will challenge a Hellbie.)

Also re-read that opening statement: GENERALLY second class citizens. So uh, no, 1 good doesn't disprove my statement at all, actually.

Want moar sarcasm?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 21 July 2015 - 04:49 AM.

[LordNothing]

Titannium, on 21 July 2015 - 04:21 AM, said:

so far, Wolverines. Its a bit hide and seek, but best medium i see there.

i think the only wolverine i like is the one with the ac5 quirks. i got 2 ac5s and a medium laser. i also took my ac5 modules off of my bansh 3e and now the thing fires like a pair of ac2s. im convinced other mechs are completely unaware than im doing 10 damage a salvo instead of 4. i can core an assault in a few seconds with it.

[Juodas Varnas]

Rhaythe, on 21 July 2015 - 04:43 AM, said:

Even moreso if you refuse to run an XL in it.

But then you're either slow as a tortoise or as dangerous as a chihuahua.
I blame the clans. Back in my day, you didn't have to run XL engines in everything just to have comparable firepower to other mechs!
*Shakes fist at the sky*

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 21 July 2015 - 04:45 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Rhaythe, on 21 July 2015 - 04:43 AM, said:

Even moreso if you refuse to run an XL in it.

I refuse not to run an XL as a way to thumb my nose at the whiners. I have run an XL YLW with it's vulnerable weapons arm since CB. It's a great teacher on how to twist when you gotta protect that gun!

Juodas Varnas, on 21 July 2015 - 04:45 AM, said:

But then you're either slow as a tortoise or as dangerous as a chihuahua.
I blame the clans. Back in my day, you didn't have to run XL engines in everything just to have comparable firepower to other mechs!
*Shakes fist at the sky*

I'm glad the clans came and exposed the myth of the ZOmbie SRM Cent. They were a lazy abomination that taught bad habits. I'm convinced that most of th epeople complaining that the Cent is fragile are ex-ZOmbies who never learned how to twist.

[saagri]

Vindicator 1AA, the last poptart.

[Bishop Steiner]

saagri, on 21 July 2015 - 04:48 AM, said:

Vindicator 1AA, the last poptart.

VND-1R does rather well as does the Nova

Juodas Varnas, on 21 July 2015 - 04:41 AM, said:

Here i thought, people voted (at least I voted, before seeing that it might overtake the Quickdraw, which is when i switched the vote to the aforementioned Quickdraw) not because it "dies easy", but because it looks aesthetically not as good as it could look.

Well , when confronted on it, a goodly number cried it died too easy.

And those who voted for the aesthetics before game play issues really demonstrated they don't grasp the game well enough to deserve a say in it.

[TercieI]

CDA-2B (in sig. Her name is Empress)

For an actual medium...BJ-1X (I have two)

Really coming to love the Enforcer-4R, though (have two of those too)

[saagri]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 July 2015 - 04:51 AM, said:

VND-1R does rather well as does the Nova

I will agree with that statement but the 1AA has a jump height of 70m (o.O) compared to 46.88 of the 1R and 52.73 of the Nova.

[Rhaythe]

Juodas Varnas, on 21 July 2015 - 04:45 AM, said:

But then you're either slow as a tortoise or as dangerous as a chihuahua.
I blame the clans. Back in my day, you didn't have to run XL engines in everything just to have comparable firepower to other mechs!
*Shakes fist at the sky*

A sign of the times when a 90 kph medium is considered "slow".

[CDLord HHGD]

In retrospect, I don' t think there's a medium chassis that I don't like. Certainly the HBK-4G is my all time favorite, but all the mediums are fine mechs. Once I am done buying mech packs and get everything I have mastered, I will play mediums almost exclusively.

[Vandul]

Piloting, love my CDA's

Looks? Wolvies. The cockpit feels like I am in a WWII fighter.