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[Satan n stuff]

martian, on 03 August 2015 - 05:08 AM, said:

Actually, only a small number of Mechs currently present in MWO can be considered to be a "ComStar 'Mech".
HGN-732 Highlander

Have to disagree with this one, it's extremely rare ( as in a few hundred left in the IS at the most ) but it's not exclusive to Comstar.

[Escef]

Satan n stuff, on 03 August 2015 - 01:54 PM, said:

Have to disagree with this one, it's extremely rare ( as in a few hundred left in the IS at the most ) but it's not exclusive to Comstar.

A few hundred is probably over-estimating it. Most Highlanders in the Inner Sphere at this point are from the 733 series.

[CDLord HHGD]

Escef, on 03 August 2015 - 01:17 PM, said:

PGI has in the past said that their faction is Comstar. As a side note, a Comstar "demi-company" is also referred to as a Level II.

Edit: While I'm thinking of it, I wonder how long PGI has used the steer's skull as their emblem? Because it bears a certain resemblance to the Opacus Venatori emblem (a small team of trouble shooters/head-hunters that was nominally part of the Word of Blake's 52nd Shadow Division).

Future WoB personnel are manning their support@ and moderation@ email addresses.

/jk

[Cupid and Psyche _]

Sorry for OT, but how did PGI come up with the sounds for the ComStar Warhorn?

[Hawktel]

On the Black Knight, one of the variants might be a one off, but the BL-6-KNT is the standard variation that was found in the original 2750, and the BL-7-KNT is the variation they printed in the Revised 3025 when the unseen were pulled.



These Mechs were rare in the IS militaries, but common in the Com Guard it seems, with them having access to make them on Terra I think.



The same applies to Highlander, with the 732 being the original SLDF, and the 733 being the Dumb down version the States used for the succession wars, and the P and C variants part of the succession wars scrap together mentality.



Eventually, we should get to the “clan buster” variants, and eventually the SLDF royal variants being something you can get and use.



I didn’t know that that PGI considered themselves comstar. I guess that big banning was operation Holy Shroud then.

[Hit the Deck]

Tranquil Winds, on 03 August 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

Sorry for OT, but how did PGI come up with the sounds for the ComStar Warhorn?

Their sound engineer watched War of the Worlds.

[Escef]

Hawktel, on 03 August 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

Eventually, we should get to the “clan buster” variants, and eventually the SLDF royal variants being something you can get and use.

We already have 2 Royals, the HGN-732B and the KGC-000B.

[Hit the Deck]

If we didn't have mech-customization, those special (variants) 'Mechs would mean something more.

[Soldier91]

Escef, on 03 August 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

Uggghhh.... /shudder....

DnC is one of the most boring wastes of time in the Army.

I should probably just pull an about face. You ever seen the U.S. Army Drill Team? DnC is a great show.
I appreciate it cause it's rooted in battle maneuvers. It's something of a dying art along with calling cadence. Try leading a formation if your bored I've screwed up leading one with like 2 or 3 hundred people it sure wasn't boring though.
Rather do DnC than go to a club, when I was growing up dancing was formal kids these days are twerking and stuff it's way over my head.

DnC in a battlemech would be fun.

[Hit the Deck]

I always like USMC Silent Drill Platoon.

[Escef]

Soldier91, on 03 August 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

I should probably just pull an about face. You ever seen the U.S. Army Drill Team? DnC is a great show.

Might be a nice show, but for most Joes it's an impractical PITA. We'd rather be doing our MOS duties.

[MauttyKoray]

MeiSooHaityu, on 03 August 2015 - 05:06 AM, said:

I would have thought that if it was old and Inner Sphere, the Star League would have fielded it and therefore the Com Guards have some stockpile of it. Something like the Raven wasn't originally Star League so I don't think Comstar bought them or ran them. I also don't think they had Cataphracts.

I took a quick look on Sarna and couldn't find exactly what they were known to have. I'm sure they probably ran Orions and Atlas's though too (again thinking back to Star League).

Maybe someone knows of a good list somewhere that can be referenced.

For the most part, unless the mech chassis was specifically developed by comstar, it was usually just a variant of the mech with improved tech on it.

[martian]

Satan n stuff, on 03 August 2015 - 01:54 PM, said:

Have to disagree with this one, it's extremely rare ( as in a few hundred left in the IS at the most ) but it's not exclusive to Comstar.

It is exclusive to ComStar. The last original HGN-732s disappeared in the Inner Sphere 200 years ago. During the Succession Wars the best you had available were downgraded HGN-733 (with AC-10 in place of unavailable Gauss Rifle), HGN-733C (armed with AC-20) and HGN-733P (with PPC).

[ChrystalNiNja88]

I can't wait for the crab and black Knight. Been wanting to add more "comstar/star league" mechs to my stable, as I do enjoy rocking a white painted chassis as you'll often see me do online. If there were a Comstar faction, I'd join it. Been interested by the religious cult ever since I started getting into battletech.

[CycKath]

While most people think of TRO:2750 and 3058 for ComStar 'Mechs, Com Guards also had a quite a number of SLDF Regular Army aka Inner Sphere general use designs too, just in better nick. Following the available 'Mechs from older sources like the original Tukayyid scenario pack gives ComStar fans a lot more options among designs already in MWO:

[Steinar Bergstol]

cdlord, on 03 August 2015 - 06:12 AM, said:

Interesting, really, that the Lyrans chose Griffins, a mech known for carrying only long distance weapons (a PPC and an LRM rack) as the throne room guards when the most likely attacker in a throne room would probably be infantry rather than armor or mechs, and the distances involved in most thronerooms would suggest short range anti infantry weapons would be preferable.

I Guess the Lyrans og for a "Go Big or Go Home" philosophy for their thronerooms as well for this to make sense.

"Archon! The enemy has breached the entrance door to the throne room! They'll be at the steps to the throne in six hours at the latest!"

[CDLord HHGD]

Steinar Bergstol, on 01 September 2015 - 12:10 AM, said:

Interesting, really, that the Lyrans chose Griffins, a mech known for carrying only long distance weapons (a PPC and an LRM rack) as the throne room guards when the most likely attacker in a throne room would probably be infantry rather than armor or mechs, and the distances involved in most thronerooms would suggest short range anti infantry weapons would be preferable.

I Guess the Lyrans og for a "Go Big or Go Home" philosophy for their thronerooms as well for this to make sense.

"Archon! The enemy has breached the entrance door to the throne room! They'll be at the steps to the throne in six hours at the latest!"

Well, a PPC at short range doesn't hurt mechs, but for the time period before power armor, even a point blank PPC would fry plenty of assassins. Same with LRMs, maybe the Griffin was chosen specifically because of it's long range (and therefore inadequate short range) punch yet still lethal arsenal. Kill the meat, save the real estate.

[SpiralFace]

Man, 3 pages of this and not one mention of the "Master unit list." The definitive (and official) roster for every major power in the IS broken down into different era's.

Here is comstar's full roster for the 3050 era, which extends from 3050-3061. This is their official unit list of every thing that was in active service with them at this time table validated by the guys that actually make Battletech.

/thread

[Escef]

cdlord, on 01 September 2015 - 04:19 AM, said:

Well, a PPC at short range doesn't hurt mechs, ... Same with LRMs,...

Per lore, PPCs and LRMs do full damage under minimum range, even Inner Sphere LRMs. You just have a to-hit penalty.

[Hit the Deck]

SpiralFace, on 01 September 2015 - 04:41 AM, said:

Man, 3 pages of this and not one mention of the "Master unit list." The definitive (and official) roster for every major power in the IS broken down into different era's.

Here is comstar's full roster for the 3050 era, which extends from 3050-3061. This is their official unit list of every thing that was in active service with them at this time table validated by the guys that actually make Battletech.

/thread

It's already on the 1st page:

Mors Draco, on 03 August 2015 - 05:10 AM, said:

List of Comstar Mechs (per MUL)

**Fixed list...didn't realize i had pasted Sarna's incorrect info until after i posted. Link goes to Master Unit List.