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[SQW]

Is there any point in posting on this thread? It doesn't get looked at by PGI and there's no intention to do anything about it due to the regional low population. People have been playing on NA server for the past year because Oceanic is as bad as the European server.

If PGI can quietly shut down its Oceanic server, it would. Don't expect improvement.

[Gaden Phoenix]

SQW, on 30 August 2016 - 04:32 PM, said:

Is there any point in posting on this thread? It doesn't get looked at by PGI and there's no intention to do anything about it due to the regional low population. People have been playing on NA server for the past year because Oceanic is as bad as the European server.

If PGI can quietly shut down its Oceanic server, it would. Don't expect improvement.

I for one will definitely notice... definitely. Guess my country and ISP

Edited by Gaden Phoenix, 15 September 2016 - 01:43 AM.

[Gaden Phoenix]

Toasts, on 28 August 2016 - 04:43 AM, said:

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| [Blank] - 0 | 101 | 101 | 0 | 1 | 20 | 0 |
| [Blank] - 0 | 101 | 101 | 1 | 2 | 49 | 1 |
| 112.204.32.1.pldt.net - 0 | 101 | 101 | 2 | 5 | 63 | 7 |
| 122.2.175.166.static.pldt.net - 0 | 101 | 101 | 2 | 5 | 65 | 3 |
| 210.213.131.62.static.pldt.net - 3 | 93 | 91 | 2 | 4 | 65 | 2 |
| 210.213.131.85.static.pldt.net - 0 | 101 | 101 | 2 | 6 | 63 | 3 |
| 210.14.2.190 - 0 | 101 | 101 | 182 | 185 | 270 | 182 |
| w118012045.w118012.starhub.net.sg - 2 | 97 | 96 | 190 | 194 | 268 | 219 |
| an-atl-int11.starhub.net.sg - 0 | 101 | 101 | 190 | 194 | 276 | 191 |
| 203.116.7.78 - 0 | 101 | 101 | 190 | 194 | 270 | 191 |
| No response from host - 100 | 21 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 86.201.100.101.in-addr.arpa - 2 | 97 | 96 | 194 | 198 | 268 | 227 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

Googling the IP addresses, 210.14.2.190 and 210.213.131.95, where there is a huge increase in latency...

Interestingly err both are PH Long Distance Telephone backend servers...

Edited by Gaden Phoenix, 15 September 2016 - 01:42 AM.

[jjm1]

Oceanic is my local server. (Singapore is under 70ms away, but I get double that because of lazy routing)

And yet, its bad enough that I would rather play on a NA servers with near 300 ping any day.

Anyone else just feel like it performs really badly? I don't get packet loss and yet I see more unexplained lag spikes, more mechs teleporting through other mechs etc. I can usually tell I'm on Oceanic just by the number of mechs that I see glitching from place to place.

Is this due to other clients dropping packets or bad servers? I'm so close to turning Oceanic off forever.

Its been much worse, but its always been terrible.

[Jingseng]

Lately, tons of connection problems (login and in match). All the tracerts and pings show drops to the NA server... the solution was "show this to your ISP and tell them to fix it" =p

Personally, it seems like a lot of older players are coming back, combined with newer players from steam. And capacity was probably reduced in the intervening period and not raised.

Prior to FP event, no connection issues whatsoever.

[Kynesis]

Just a short while ago I was having some weird latency issues (ie rubber banding in game, which I've never had before) and then disconnected during that game with a message that the servers had been taken offline for maintenance.

I waited ten minutes and logged back in, the servers aren't offline - the fastest server maintenance in human history.

[Grinster]

Visting Bangkok for work. Work laptop too anaemic for gaming.
At least I get a view of what the real Internet looks like before I go back to Oz Where 180ms to Oceanic is "awesome".


PING 101.100.201.86 (101.100.201.86) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 101.100.201.86: icmp_seq=1 ttl=116 time=29.7 ms
64 bytes from 101.100.201.86: icmp_seq=2 ttl=116 time=29.0 ms
64 bytes from 101.100.201.86: icmp_seq=3 ttl=116 time=28.9 ms
64 bytes from 101.100.201.86: icmp_seq=4 ttl=116 time=29.0 ms
64 bytes from 101.100.201.86: icmp_seq=5 ttl=116 time=29.0 ms
64 bytes from 101.100.201.86: icmp_seq=6 ttl=116 time=29.7 ms
64 bytes from 101.100.201.86: icmp_seq=7 ttl=116 time=29.0 ms
^C
--- 101.100.201.86 ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6007ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 28.975/29.247/29.783/0.336 ms

[Mantis]

I just spent a week in Singapore and man what a difference it made! I think my kills quadrupled!

[METAL SEPARATOR]

I disabled Oceanic servers from the "list", since putting 150+ damage into the already damaged Commando CT, and getting the kill stolen eventually.

[Gaden Phoenix]

Australia out to Asia and to USA. The main lag issue is ... Australia.

I studied in Australia and I used to constantly complain to my ISP about my latency to any online game. They always at first say is the pipe(s) outside Australia. When I prove them wrong buy my own testing, that is the Australia backbone that is F-uped. They will tell me to go take a hike in that uniquely Ozzy your problem is not my problem way. Good days...

I hate all ISPs, don't they realise that with tools like wireshark, tracert, psping, ping, etc. It is super easy to call their bluff ...

And I keep on getting incompetent level 1 tech support. Hello, after I call your ISP for like the 100 time, At which point should they not take note that I know my stuff more then them and LET ME TALK TO A PROPER Level 2 Network Engineer.

Edited by Gaden Phoenix, 17 October 2016 - 10:54 PM.

[Carl Vickers]

Gaden Phoenix, on 17 October 2016 - 10:51 PM, said:

Australia out to Asia and to USA. The main lag issue is ... Australia.

I studied in Australia and I used to constantly complain to my ISP about my latency to any online game. They always at first say is the pipe(s) outside Australia. When I prove them wrong buy my own testing, that is the Australia backbone that is F-uped. They will tell me to go take a hike in that uniquely Ozzy your problem is not my problem way. Good days...

I hate ISPs, don't they realise that with tools like wireshark, tracert, psping, ping, etc. It is super easy to call their bluff.......

I think you will find the issue is lack of skilled and properly trained service desk people at the ISP level. It is normally their first job in IT and their level of knowledge is bad, this will more than likely be the same everywhere.

[Breeze]

Has anyone been having trouble with ping times again? I'm getting over 400 ping to the Oceanic servers, and a bit more for NA and EU servers too.

It started about 2 days ago!

My ISP was getting real slow the last few days, so it could be them (iPrimus is terrible). But speeds have got back to normal for everything else, but pings to MWO are still ridiculous.

[Gaden Phoenix]

Breeze, on 24 November 2016 - 02:17 AM, said:

Has anyone been having trouble with ping times again? I'm getting over 400 ping to the Oceanic servers, and a bit more for NA and EU servers too.

It started about 2 days ago!

My ISP was getting real slow the last few days, so it could be them (iPrimus is terrible). But speeds have got back to normal for everything else, but pings to MWO are still ridiculous.

The path to MWO servers might not be optimised. MWO servers are not placed at the "normal" MMO server locations.

so ISPs will/might not optimise the routes unless you ask and work with them.

[Dao Feng]

My ping from Oz was usually 100, now it's more than doubled to 220.

Any others experiencing this?

[Roland Skinner]

Dao Feng, on 26 November 2016 - 09:25 AM, said:

My ping from Oz was usually 100, now it's more than doubled to 220.

Any others experiencing this?

Yes - normally get ping of 56 to Oceanic servers, how have 227. My
N.American and Euro pings seem fairly normal.

[WindFlow]

If they want more players from the oceanic regions, then they should advertise in them. Once more players come along, hopefully they will be bothered to help improve networking.

But than again, the networking in Oz is terrible, I just finished learning about optic communications in my degree, and my area for instance still does not have optic fiber cabling.

This is ***** depressing! ------- Bad boys 2 quote.

[Wski]

Same problem here, i now have a better ping to the NA servers making the game unplayable at a decent level or 260-290 ping to oceanic up from 100 big difference, i am just wondering why there is no infomation, they truned the servers off today so they know it is an issue.

[jjm1]

Well, finally done it. Disabled my regional server. GG.

Pings bouncing up and down all year, sometimes the routing was completely different between matches. Half the other players with 250+ pings and packet loss on top of that.

Only hope of decent ping now is PGI switching to a reputable Australian host.

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| dsldevice.gateway - 0 | 37 | 37 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| xxx - 0 | 37 | 37 | 18 | 21 | 29 | 25 |
|bundle-ether7.wel-core3.perth.telstra.net - 0 | 37 | 37 | 21 | 27 | 34 | 23 |
|bundle-ether7.fli-core1.adelaide.telstra.net - 0 | 37 | 37 | 46 | 54 | 62 | 62 |
|bundle-ether9.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net - 0 | 37 | 37 | 56 | 59 | 67 | 60 |
|bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net - 0 | 37 | 37 | 68 | 75 | 86 | 73 |
|bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net - 0 | 37 | 37 | 69 | 76 | 80 | 76 |
|bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com - 0 | 37 | 37 | 67 | 74 | 81 | 77 |
| unknown.telstraglobal.net - 0 | 37 | 37 | 248 | 254 | 260 | 248 |
| i-0-0-0-7.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net - 0 | 37 | 37 | 214 | 222 | 226 | 224 |
| 63-218-51-149.static.pccwglobal.net - 0 | 37 | 37 | 212 | 216 | 227 | 218 |
| TenGE4-6.br02.sin02.pccwbtn.net - 0 | 37 | 37 | 311 | 319 | 456 | 311 |
| 63-218-213-182.static.pccwglobal.net - 0 | 37 | 37 | 310 | 319 | 325 | 315 |
| tl2.tl1.sg.vodien.com - 0 | 37 | 37 | 308 | 312 | 324 | 310 |
| No response from host - 100 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 86.201.100.101.in-addr.arpa - 0 | 37 | 37 | 236 | 244 | 255 | 247 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

[KillerMadman]

Melbourne FIber Optic 25/5 dl/up

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.14393]
(c) 2016 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\User>tracert 101.100.201.86
Tracing route to 86.201.100.101.in-addr.arpa [101.100.201.86]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms belong.gateway [10.0.0.138]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 10.50.0.10
4 2 ms 3 ms 3 ms 10.37.0.14
5 5 ms 6 ms 4 ms static.belong.com.au [141.168.7.2]
6 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms Bundle-Ether27.win-edge901.melbourne.telstra.net [139.130.141.1]
7 5 ms 6 ms 5 ms bundle-ether11.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.107]
8 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.122]
9 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.61]
10 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.90]
11 165 ms 166 ms 165 ms i-52.tlot-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.137.101]
12 159 ms 158 ms 158 ms i-0-0-0-2.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.130]
13 157 ms 158 ms 159 ms 63-218-51-149.static.pccwglobal.net [63.218.51.149]
14 243 ms 244 ms 243 ms TenGE2-8.br02.sin02.pccwbtn.net [63.218.228.146]
15 245 ms 245 ms 248 ms 63-218-213-182.static.pccwglobal.net [63.218.213.182]
16 245 ms 244 ms 244 ms tl2.tl1.sg.vodien.com [103.22.168.182]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 247 ms 246 ms 247 ms 86.201.100.101.in-addr.arpa [101.100.201.86]
Trace complete.

for some **** reason it running from melb to syd not melb to perth.

anyone know how to fix this?>?

Edited by KillerMadman, 22 December 2016 - 12:08 AM.

[KillerMadman]

Gaden Phoenix, on 02 August 2016 - 01:32 AM, said:

http://www.submarinecablemap.com/

Australia has quite a few lines to Singapore. So ... cannot be that the lines are down.

For EasyPickings Screenshot the path issue happens will still in Australia.

So... complain to your ISPs?

theres only 1 line and its from perth to Singapore http://www.submarine...apore-cable-asc

99% of connection is from Sydney and re-routing through papua new guinea

Edited by KillerMadman, 22 December 2016 - 03:07 PM.