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[EAP10]

To me, the mech is one of my favorites, its super nimble and fun to play.

Upsides:

Super nimble due to MASC

Ecm

Variety of hardpoints

Very deadly with the right builds in the right hands

Downsides:

Very thin armour. I find I always do really well in the scat, only to die at the end of the match.

Not alot of hardpoints.

Bigish, like the cicada.

Hitboxes are wonky.



If you do end up getting them and need builds, just ask me.

[Widowmaker1981]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 August 2015 - 06:09 AM, said:

keep drinking the koolaid! Makes it that much easier for me, when I hunt down the dual ppc Scats. Thing can't maintain any volume of fire once pressured. It's only useful as long as it's ignored.

In fairness, its not a 1v1 game, and any sensible Scat pilot should be making damn sure that if they are pressured they can bail into the friendly deathball asap.

There is one situation where it is unsurpassed though (and if you dont like CW you wont care). No other mech can jump onto the huge central building in vitric forge, with ECM and high mounts, which makes you basically immune to being pressured since almost no one fields IS mechs with enough jets to get up there. Shoot down UAVs and nothing can hurt you, and you can sit up there all day peek/pop tarting and forcing the enemies to leave good cover from the rest of your team or get repeatedly shot in the back by you.

[Paigan]

EAP10, on 06 August 2015 - 06:24 AM, said:

To me, the mech is one of my favorites, its super nimble and fun to play.

Upsides:

Super nimble due to MASC

Ecm

Variety of hardpoints

Very deadly with the right builds in the right hands

Downsides:

Very thin armour. I find I always do really well in the scat, only to die at the end of the match.

Not alot of hardpoints.

Bigish, like the cicada.

Hitboxes are wonky.



If you do end up getting them and need builds, just ask me.

I can't conform the SHC to have thin armor.
Maybe that's because I played KFX for a long time, but I find the SHC surprisingly durable.
I had several occasions where the enemy just "got" me and I ran away in "**** **** ****" mode.
I thought every second "okay, NOW I'm dead", but more often than not, I got away.

Using ECM and the superb agility, I'd even say it's more durable than an assault mech.
I hardly die in the SHC anymore, given I didn't screw up totally or the whole team just being stomped.



PS:

DUDE,

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lines.

Seriously

o_0

Edited by Paigan, 06 August 2015 - 06:29 AM.

[Coralld]

Its a fun mech just not amazing.

Currently I have two builds I like. First is the Prime which is almost stock other than I put more Gauss ammo in it, replaced its C-MLs for C-SLs in order to fit ECM.

Then there is the B which has ECM, BAP, 3x C-MPLs, and 2x C-SSRM4s. I have had pretty good results with this thing.

I really want the P so I can mount 2x C-LPLs and 6x C-MGs.

[CrushLibs]

Doesn't live up to its history so its your choice if you need a sniper med or not

[Throat Punch]

If you just want to play with big guns and meta, meta, meta then the S-Cat isn't for you. If you want a 'mech you have patience with and have fun while doing it, Buy it. It's a fun as hell medium 'mech that can deal as much damage as the bigger 'mechs if you don't try and face tank and just hit and run with it. I average between 550-600 damage a match with it (I'm an average pilot), and some one posted a screen shot of over 1000 damage with a S-Cat. It's not as bad as people proclaim. You just need to find your groove in the 'mech and the damage will come. Sure other 'mechs might be better able to do what the S-cat does, but they aren't nearly as fun. Think of the S-Cat as the lightsabre of 'mechs. Not as clumsy or random as a Streakcrow. A more elegant 'mech for a more civilized battlefield. It takes practice and getting used to using to be effective but once you are you it will be deadly.

Edited by Mors Draco, 06 August 2015 - 07:11 AM.

[Mystere]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 August 2015 - 06:09 AM, said:

what is it's role?

Everything it can do, something else does better, sadly.

Is there any other Mech you know that can perch itself very high and snipe down with a gauss rifle undetected? During the entire time I leveled my specialized sniper, no one ever figured out where it was.

[Greenjulius]

As an owner of Wave 3, I'd say a big no. The SCat is the worst of Wave 3.

Good

1) Arctic Cheetah - the new clan light metamech. New light overlord. Best of the pack.
2) Ebon Jaguar - a solid 65 tonner that has more firepower than most heavies, and is a good alternative to the Timbie.
3) Executioner - a bizarre hybrid assault that actually works. MASC is great, the 4th variant adds tons of firepower, and it can actually spread damage really well in a brawl.

Bad

1) Shadow Cat - Less available energy hardpoints than ANY CLAN MECH in the game. MASC boost it LESS THAN THE EXECUTIONER. It has paper thin armor and poor quirks. Currently, it's the worst clan medium, kind of running back and forth with the Ice Ferret. I still prefer the Ferret for 5xERML. it can however be a competent sniper; kind of a poor mans RVN-3L.

Edited by Greenjulius, 06 August 2015 - 07:30 AM.

[Deathlike]

Short answer: Not really
Long answer:

If you haven't bothered to read some of the commentary about the Shadowcat since it has been out, then you really should. For most people, it's "lacking" (for lack of a better term) unless you are able to play in a certain way (mostly, requiring not being the focus of an attack) it's not going to be for the masses.

Don't buy it because of nostalgia... you'll very likely be disappointed.

Greenjulius, on 06 August 2015 - 07:27 AM, said:

Bad

1) Shadow Cat - Less available energy hardpoints than ANY CLAN MECH in the game. MASC boost it LESS THAN THE EXECUTIONER. It has paper thin armor and poor quirks. Currently, it's the worst clan medium, kind of running back and forth with the Ice Ferret. I still prefer the Ferret for 5xERML. it can however be a competent sniper; kind of a poor mans RVN-3L.

The irony of that is that the term "poor man" doesn't quite apply since...

1) It's bigger than the Raven.

2) It's plenty more expensive than a 3L.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mystere, on 06 August 2015 - 07:26 AM, said:

Is there any other Mech you know that can perch itself very high and snipe down with a gauss rifle undetected? During the entire time I leveled my specialized sniper, no one ever figured out where it was.

so you played against bad players. woohoo!

[Mystere]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 August 2015 - 07:34 AM, said:

so you played against bad players. woohoo!

Do you mean to say that many of the forum warriors are actually bad players?

And you still did not answer my question: Is there any other Mech you know that can perch itself very high and snipe down with a gauss rifle undetected?

Edited by Mystere, 06 August 2015 - 07:40 AM.

[meteorol]

Mystere, on 06 August 2015 - 07:26 AM, said:

Is there any other Mech you know that can perch itself very high and snipe down with a gauss rifle undetected? During the entire time I leveled my specialized sniper, no one ever figured out where it was.

The enemy team was probably paralized from shock and awe. Facing a mech that has to choose between a considerable amount of gauss ammo or sufficient backup weapons struck their hearts with terror.

[Deathlike]

Mystere, on 06 August 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

Do you mean to say that many of the forum warriors are actually bad players?

Yes.

Self-admitted

Totally omitted!

[Bishop Steiner]

Mystere, on 06 August 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

Do you mean to say that many of the forum warriors are actually bad players?

And you still did not answer my question: Is there any other Mech you know that can perch itself very high and snipe down with a gauss rifle undetected?

against any decent players, you aren't going to have a very successful career doing that, so again, maybe I should rephrase it to "what does it do that is USEFUL outside the underhive that any other mech doesn't do better"?

Also, for useless ECM sniper meta, do your team a favor, waste a Light slot instead with a Spider, and save the medium slot for a contributing build.

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 August 2015 - 07:47 AM, said:

Also, for useless ECM sniper meta, do your team a favor, waste a Light slot instead with a Spider, and save the medium slot for a contributing build.

*selects Skillcrow*

[Bishop Steiner]

Deathlike, on 06 August 2015 - 07:49 AM, said:

*selects Skillcrow*

i might hate them, but at least the are actually useful. Unlike 90% of your "supersniperwow!" builds that are only useful for inflating epeen at the expense of your team, not actually contributing to winning.

Simple truth, the Scat is good only if you are ignored. It's pretty easy to overwhelm in just about any other chassis. ANY mech is good if it's ignored.

[Lugh]

Greenjulius, on 06 August 2015 - 07:27 AM, said:

As an owner of Wave 3, I'd say a big no. The SCat is the worst of Wave 3.

Good

1) Arctic Cheetah - the new clan light metamech. New light overlord. Best of the pack.
2) Ebon Jaguar - a solid 65 tonner that has more firepower than most heavies, and is a good alternative to the Timbie.
3) Executioner - a bizarre hybrid assault that actually works. MASC is great, the 4th variant adds tons of firepower, and it can actually spread damage really well in a brawl.

Bad

1) Shadow Cat - Less available energy hardpoints than ANY CLAN MECH in the game. MASC boost it LESS THAN THE EXECUTIONER. It has paper thin armor and poor quirks. Currently, it's the worst clan medium, kind of running back and forth with the Ice Ferret. I still prefer the Ferret for 5xERML. it can however be a competent sniper; kind of a poor mans RVN-3L.

Disagree. I'd argue that there isn't a single bad mech in the entire lot. However the SCat is the least of them, due to the fact that it requires it's pilots to exercise this amazing thing called Patience.

So few have it.

[Deathlike]

Lugh, on 06 August 2015 - 07:52 AM, said:

Disagree. I'd argue that there isn't a single bad mech in the entire lot. However the SCat is the least of them, due to the fact that it requires it's pilots to exercise this amazing thing called Patience.

So few have it.

It's called a Spider-5V.

[Bishop Steiner]

Lugh, on 06 August 2015 - 07:52 AM, said:

Disagree. I'd argue that there isn't a single bad mech in the entire lot. However the SCat is the least of them, due to the fact that it requires it's pilots to exercise this amazing thing called Patience.

So few have it.

And against decent competition (which will invariably push aggressively) patience tends to be a moot point. Yes, against mediocres to bads, who hunker down for 10 minute "PeekWarrior: Online" matches, patience can be useful. I don't tend to rate effectiveness against bad players as the scale to judge a mech by.

[Lugh]

Deathlike, on 06 August 2015 - 07:53 AM, said:

It's called a Spider-5V.

Last I checked the Spider 5v isn't in the Wave 3 pack.