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[Kira Onime]

Stain Pain, on 08 August 2015 - 12:18 PM, said:

Who said that? When did I complain??? The exact opposite, I said that if u let a light behind u you are dead no matter what time period were talking about ...damn ppl like u make forums hell

Your original claim is that the ACH has finally killed of 2 hunchback variants without providing any kind of sensible "evidence" to your claim. I would probably think the forum is hell if I where to do the same thing.

[RoboPatton]

As owner of all of the aforementioned mechs, I can say I still have great games in my GI.

You have to play peekaboo, and rapid fire the gauss.

Don't scrap, and don't fully expose. Get the guass cool-down module. Take guass range module too. They're on sale now. Yes, I've had some games where the guass gets wrekt in the first couple of mins. It sucks, but I've gotten stuck on GEO in my Acheeta and been torn to shreds, or turned the wrong corner in a scrap and take 3 alphas to one leg.

All this talk about the GI... time for me to go play it again.

[Overlord Neb]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!! NO. NO NO NO. The 4P is still awesome. I can't way anything about Grid Iron but the 4P is still a very solip mech

[Bishop Steiner]

OK......

(Some folks weren't meant to Hunchback, obviously).

*Goes back to driving Hunchback and wrecking faces......*

Ghazzy, on 08 August 2015 - 12:32 PM, said:

HAHAHAHAHAHA!! NO. NO NO NO. The 4P is still awesome. I can't way anything about Grid Iron but the 4P is still a very solip mech

Oh, the GI is still as overquirked and psycho as ever.........

If you are letting ACH get close...let's just say, someone isn't playing at a very competitive level, or that MG Gauss would have legged those Cheetos long ago.

[Cyborne Elemental]

Its nothing to do with Hunchbacks.. at all.

Arctic cheeta needs to be burned at the stake, and then pounded with the nerfbat.
These things are freaking ridiculous.

[Novakaine]

Brought my Catapult C4 out last night.
Had many a surprising matches in it.
I was hunting Arctic Cheetah's.
Great Fun
Point being take the fight to those Vat Babies and don't be the target.

Former Clan Warrior Philo Stiles.
Fear the Inner Sphere.

[Fate 6]

Stain Pain, on 08 August 2015 - 11:39 AM, said:

Yes they do, I whould prefer to see them dialed down a litlte bit in favor of at least some extra armor on that torso. I don't know I used to do amazing with them now they seem like a really bad pick, specially for competitive games.

1) They have a MASSIVE armor/structure bonus on the RT
2) The 4P has pretty minor weapon quirks
3) The HBK is competitive-worthy and shows in comp matches plenty (especially in MRBC)

[bad arcade kitty]

Stain Pain, on 08 August 2015 - 11:30 AM, said:

After the release of Arctic Cheetah I think that was the final nail in the cofin for those two hunchbacks. I can't really get a decent game in any competitive level.

dat competitive scene of mwo

[MikeBend]

Stain Pain, on 08 August 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

I won't even dare to think about XL in a Hunchy anymore...

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a331e8aa34b4777

Funny thing, it often works. Whatever elo level i am at.

Edit:

Load 4P with MPL, and it effectively removes lights legs in one shot.

Edited by MikeBend, 08 August 2015 - 01:46 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Stain Pain, on 08 August 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

I won't even dare to think about XL in a Hunchy anymore...

[STEF_]

Stain Pain, on 08 August 2015 - 11:30 AM, said:

After the release of Arctic Cheetah I think that was the final nail in the cofin for those two hunchbacks. I can't really get a decent game in any competitive level. Even low skill players realize that getting your torso is 90% of the job and every light is rolling with pinpoint Small Pulse and specially clan's SPL are a nightmare.

Your torso will bust open 100%. Only good games I managed to get are those that after hyper manouvering I manage to protect my toro and spread arround the dmg a little bit more, a tactic that was the only way to play those hunchbacks anyway (specially 4P). But I say again, every mid skill player and higher will never even bother hitting you anywhere else... back + front side torso = gg.

I won't even bother about lights getting on your back unnoticed because that was always a desaster

Oooooooooooooh yes!
It's only with the release of the cheetah

Before DAT grind iron's side torso was fine!

LOL

[ApolloKaras]

Someone needs to get Jman5 into this conversation lol

[Bishop Steiner]

Saxie, on 08 August 2015 - 01:46 PM, said:

Someone needs to get Jman5 into this conversation lol

Not sure if he would hit the floor laughing or crying at the OP...........

[Stain Pain]

Bishop Steiner, on 08 August 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

Not sure if he would hit the floor laughing or crying at the OP...........

Yeah bring the bad man to laugh at my ignorance and burn me on a stick.... wtf this community is terrible.

I just started a post because specially after the release of Achetah (that usually is played with small pulse build) I find my hunchbakcs completely destroyed with 1 good or 2 medium shots on my torso. Everyone knows how and where. It's just too fragile. When someone decides to strip it off even a Locust can do the trick with some skill. That doesn't mean that a FS with same build won't have the same impact, neither that the "clans are OP" or anything like that. I personally find it unbalanced to have so much power in 1 part of the mech and while I understand that that's part of it's "beauty" and the reason it got so many quirks I really feel it's getting more problematic.

The whole point of balancing mechs is that when new enemies arrive in the roster you might wanna tweak the older guys to achieve "balance". I don't get why you have to get out of topic by mentioning a random no-lifer (might be might not be idk, idc) that will "scold" me for my opinion...

EDIT- Thanks to all who had something constructive to say, ill probably abandon this post as well as any attempts to have a serious conversation about this game. Though that EU servers might give me a chance to get into the community but since it's mostly ass-hats that answered to a random post about a guys opinion ill just wont.

Edited by Stain Pain, 08 August 2015 - 02:16 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

well you also brought the word 'competitive' claiming that ach killed not only your personal hunchback performance but the whole usage of hunchbacks in those competitive matches for any hunchback pilot, which most of people seem disagreeing

[RedDevil]

The community is pretty nasty, but I'm still not putting 2 and 2 together about the ACH making the GI obsolete. Does it matter what mech puts "1 good or 2 medium shots on my torso?"

[Stain Pain]

bad arcade kitty, on 08 August 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

well you also brought the word 'competitive' claiming that ach killed not only your personal hunchback performance but the whole usage of hunchbacks in those competitive matches for any hunchback pilot, which most of people seem disagreeing

Unless u can provide me with complete usage statistics in pre-made games + CW we can only agree to disagree. My personal opinion is that you see a lot more cheetas than hunchbakcs (since u all guys are jumpy in the Achetah situation and want to make the topic "Hunchy vs Acheetah") ...

I never said that the hunchy is unplayable. In random solo queue games u can get some pretty good scores and I do get them (not consistently though).
When u try to go pre-made with it not so much. I can practically hear the enemies in the voice comms going " Hey lights, get that sucker's torso really quick so he will stop bothering us" then u see 2 Achetas and boom all u have is 2 lasers.

There are not many mechs that are so vulnerable to only 1 place. yes there are mechs with "Hotspots" but it's up to you to decide if u want half your torso to be a "shield" and the other to have the weapons or maybe spread them out a little.

Edited by Stain Pain, 08 August 2015 - 02:32 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

i think it's you as the one who makes the claim have to prove it with statistics and stuff... that's how the scientific method works

right now we have your personal opinion vs an opinion of a bunch of other people in this thread

Edited by bad arcade kitty, 08 August 2015 - 02:32 PM.

[Stain Pain]

bad arcade kitty, on 08 August 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

i think it's you as the one who makes the claim have to prove it with statistics and stuff... that's how the scientific method works

right now we have your personal opinion vs an opinion of a bunch of other people in this thread

Ok, I can't have an opinion unless I provide statistics because this forum and the people in it are all about the "scientific method"...

Ok...

[Mcgral18]

A SPL cheetah generally has a 36 alpha. It has a 182M range and 0.75 burn duration.

A hunch should have 64 armour (46 front armour+18 quirk), and then 36(24+12) structure.
2 Alpha's won't remove your hunch; it will remove your armour.

A Cheetah has 52ish leg IS+A, which should be at most 3 alphas from your 4P (2 if you're good and the cheetah is bad).



People aren't taking you seriously, because your situations are generally hyperbolic.