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[Goose]

JSmith7784, on 11 August 2015 - 02:27 AM, said:

I was just reading up on overclocking my I-7 950 to closer to 4ghz. It should be capable since I'm running it at 3.5ghz on air cooling without issue. Thinking of getting a good AIO CLC cooler, possibly corsair H110, and bump the CPU up to 4ghz. Just trying to get more use out of my PC since it still seems capable of running most games without issue at 1080p.

The stuff I read, over a year ago, sounded like you had to have the right RAM to pull off an OC if you didn't have a model with an X in the name … So I wigged out and scrounged up a i7-990X.

Later, I replaced my RAM, anyways, going from a DDR3-1333-7-7-7-21-T2 kit to DDR3-1866-9-9-9-27-T1.

Triple channel kits are hard to come by, but that may be marketing goonery in the first place, so double-check what timings your mobo will do, at worst, and go improvise.

[Astennu]

MWO is a strange game. Not very well optimized. Even with my 4790K at a Fixed 4500 MHz and 2400 CL9-11-10-27 memory I do not have high enough FPS in CW matches. I already dropped down Particles, Effects and Shadows to medium because those impact the CPU a lot.

In your case the 950 CPU is the slowest part.
I was able to play MWO just as well on a 7970 GHz vs a GTX 980 Ti.

CPU is still the limit. I hope they can implement DX12 to lower the impact on the CPU. Or that they can optimize Multicore better. Because now it only uses 2 cores for 100% and 1 from 10-100%. that's only 25-35% utilization on a 8 core (4 core with HT)
Same goes for the older Phenom X6 CPU's and AMD FX cpu's they are fast enough for the Crysis 3 engine they do very well in Crysis 3. But somehow MWO cannot use 8 cores like Crysis 3 can.

[Heinreich]

You will still get more bang for your buck with a new gpu.
My setup:
core i7-975 stock (3.45 turboed; dont laugh at the lack of OC i have my reasons hehe )
gtx 680 sli
24gb ram
dell u3014 2560x1600

Before sli got supported, i was getting around 35-50fps in dx9 with all the settings maxed out.
When dx11 + sli got stable, with sli enabled i'm getting 50-80fps. A gtx 980 would be faster than sli'd gtx 680s.

[Hawk819]

Heinreich, on 11 August 2015 - 09:57 AM, said:

You will still get more bang for your buck with a new gpu.
My setup:
core i7-975 stock (3.45 turboed; dont laugh at the lack of OC i have my reasons hehe )
gtx 680 sli
24gb ram
dell u3014 2560x1600

Before sli got supported, i was getting around 35-50fps in dx9 with all the settings maxed out.
When dx11 + sli got stable, with sli enabled i'm getting 50-80fps. A gtx 980 would be faster than sli'd gtx 680s.

Me, I plan on going this route:

i5 6600k Skylake 3.3 GHz or i7 5930k Haswell-E <-need a new CPU; other is way out date and obsolete: AMD Athlon II 64 X4.)

2 GTX 960 EVGA FTW 4 GB GDDR 5

Either: GA-GAMING-5P or GA-Z170XP-SLI Motherboard

32 GB DDR 4 2133 MHz Kingston Fury Black Series Memory

My current GTX 760 will be used for dedicated Phys X. (I know, I know, I don't need a Phys X card, but I want one any way for my older games like Batman Asylum, MechWarrior 3 and 4, etc.)

[Dragoon20005]

Hawk819, on 11 August 2015 - 10:18 AM, said:

Me, I plan on going this route:

i5 6600k Skylake 3.3 GHz or i7 5930k Haswell-E <-need a new CPU; other is way out date and obsolete: AMD Athlon II 64 X4.)

2 GTX 960 EVGA FTW 4 GB GDDR 5

Either: GA-GAMING-5P or GA-Z170XP-SLI Motherboard

32 GB DDR 4 2133 MHz Kingston Fury Black Series Memory

My current GTX 760 will be used for dedicated Phys X. (I know, I know, I don't need a Phys X card, but I want one any way for my older games like Batman Asylum, MechWarrior 3 and 4, etc.)

you will be better off with a single GTX980 or a R9 Fury card instead of dual 960s

[Hawk819]

Allow me to venture a guess. . . the 3.5 GB GDDR 5. Am I right? Well, in any case, I don't care about.

[Dragoon20005]

Hawk819, on 11 August 2015 - 07:56 PM, said:

Allow me to venture a guess. . . the 3.5 GB GDDR 5. Am I right? Well, in any case, I don't care about.

the 960 will not be able to use up to 4GB of RAM

the 3.5GB issue is for the 970

and this game hates SLi systems

so that is why i suggest the 980 or fury if you are paying for dual 960s

[Flapdrol]

Hawk819, on 11 August 2015 - 10:18 AM, said:

Me, I plan on going this route:

i5 6600k Skylake 3.3 GHz or i7 5930k Haswell-E &lt;-need a new CPU; other is way out date and obsolete: AMD Athlon II 64 X4.)

2 GTX 960 EVGA FTW 4 GB GDDR 5

Either: GA-GAMING-5P or GA-Z170XP-SLI Motherboard

32 GB DDR 4 2133 MHz Kingston Fury Black Series Memory

My current GTX 760 will be used for dedicated Phys X. (I know, I know, I don't need a Phys X card, but I want one any way for my older games like Batman Asylum, MechWarrior 3 and 4, etc.)

A 960 is exactly half a 980, better to get a 980 as it costs the same as 2 4GB 960's and you'll avoid all the multigpu issues.

[JSmith7784]

I know my CPU is getting older but it still seems to be holding its own in the games I play. Basically MWO and Star Citizen for now. I was thinking of going for a newer GPU but now I think I'll just keep what I have a save up for a new CPU/MB and then reuse the other components. Can't do much else with my I7-950 since I already have a medium overclock. 12gb ram, GTX770 and SB X-FI. Plus going to a 980 definitely seems like I wouldn't be able to fully utilize the GPU cause my older CPU would be holding it back.

Thanks for the advice.

[Dragoon20005]

JSmith7784, on 12 August 2015 - 02:59 AM, said:

I know my CPU is getting older but it still seems to be holding its own in the games I play. Basically MWO and Star Citizen for now. I was thinking of going for a newer GPU but now I think I'll just keep what I have a save up for a new CPU/MB and then reuse the other components. Can't do much else with my I7-950 since I already have a medium overclock. 12gb ram, GTX770 and SB X-FI. Plus going to a 980 definitely seems like I wouldn't be able to fully utilize the GPU cause my older CPU would be holding it back.

Thanks for the advice.

now may be a good excuse to change to Skylake

[Veev]

I would advise waiting until you are doing a fresh build or upgrading to windows 10. One of the biggest CPU bottlenecks in gaming has been the limitation on 1 CPU core being allowed to communicate with a GFX card. This limitation is finally supposed to be fixed with DX12.

I would wait for 6-8 months to let the bugs get worked out and look at the market then.

[Heinreich]

JSmith7784, on 12 August 2015 - 02:59 AM, said:

I know my CPU is getting older but it still seems to be holding its own in the games I play. Basically MWO and Star Citizen for now. I was thinking of going for a newer GPU but now I think I'll just keep what I have a save up for a new CPU/MB and then reuse the other components. Can't do much else with my I7-950 since I already have a medium overclock. 12gb ram, GTX770 and SB X-FI. Plus going to a 980 definitely seems like I wouldn't be able to fully utilize the GPU cause my older CPU would be holding it back.

Thanks for the advice.

I don't think a core i7 of any generation running over 3ghz will hold back a gtx980, unless the game is heavily dependent on single threaded cpu performance. Most games are still gpu dependent and games like MWO tend to be outliers.

In any case, the longer you can hold out, the better stuff you'll be able to get once you do commit to buying

[Goose]

Astennu, on 11 August 2015 - 09:48 AM, said:

CPU is still the limit. I hope they can implement DX12 to lower the impact on the CPU. Or that they can optimize Multicore better. Because now it only uses 2 cores for 100% and 1 from 10-100%. that's only 25-35% utilization on a 8 core (4 core with HT) Same goes for the older Phenom X6 CPU's and AMD FX cpu's they are fast enough for the Crysis 3 engine they do very well in Crysis 3. But somehow MWO cannot use 8 cores like Crysis 3 can.

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