Kristov Kerensky, on 13 August 2015 - 10:45 AM, said:
WarHippy, first off, you need to actually look up sanctimonious before you use it again, you keep using this word, I do not think it means what you think it means, matter of fact, I know it doesn't mean what you think it means. I'm not being morally superior to anyone here, I'm pointing out that people are acting entitled and there's no justification for that, nor do I act entitled, either on these forums or anywhere else. I DO call people out for that behaviour, but that's not being sanctimonious, it's being tired of seeing that attitude and the bad behaviour that goes with it, as these forums show all too well. If you don't act that way, then you aren't the person I'm addressing, but methinks the lady doth protest overmuch, as the Bard said.
Look maybe you were not trying to act morally superior, but that was the impression I was getting from you. That being said you do love your condescension, but perhaps I was just being a bit oversensitive to what you were saying after someone accused me of being a troll in my response to Paul. So to that I apologize.
Kristov Kerensky, on 13 August 2015 - 10:45 AM, said:
Forums are not and never have been where the majority of the playerbase and potential customers go to get information on a game, this isn't a guess or supposition, it's a long established fact, it's even been stated by PGI for these forums no less, the forum users are a VERY small minority of the playerbase. So there's really no point in PGI posting things here constantly and responding personally to every request/suggestion/whine/rage post. And just to give you an idea of how bad it is to use 10% of the playerbase as a basis on making changes, 3rd PoV. We, the forum users, were overwhelmingly against it, but the silent majority who don't use the forums were for it. 10% of the people can be totally out of touch with the other 90%, happens all the time, especially in video games. If every single one of us forum users quit the game today, no one would notice, do you realize that? We are literally not that important in the grand scheme of things MWO, seriously, we're not. So PGI not catering to us means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things MWO, we simply aren't enough of a crowd to matter all that much. People really need to keep that in mind, we are NOT the majority, we do NOT carry the weight of numbers and our points of view aren't representative of anything but a minority's opinion.
I don't even know where to start with this. You keep going round and round with extremes of what I and others are saying. I'm not saying the majority come to the forums, I'm not saying the forums should be the sole basis for any decision, and I am definitely not advocating for PGI "posting things here constantly and responding personally to every request/suggestion/whine/rage post". I have from the very beginning been saying that in my opinion they ignore the forums a bit too much, and that it wouldn't hurt to have a more active presence from time to time. I have said they should use all avenues of communication for best results, and that it is a mistake and a lost opportunity to more or less ignore one of those avenues.
As for the forums in general why have them at all if they are so unimportant? Hell, why have a website at all when they could just have a Facebook page? A small portion of the players might
use the forums, but that doesn't mean more are not at least reading them. You bring up 3rd PoV and the silent majority that were for it, but I'm not seeing them in game. How many people do you see using 3rd PoV? That is one hell of a silent majority that is so silent they can't even be bothered to use the feature they were advocating for through what I can only assume was smoke signals. Sure, maybe if everyone on the forums disappeared nobody would notice or care like you say, but I doubt it. Not because they are important, but because a sudden drop of 10% is something you are going to feel.
ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 13 August 2015 - 11:06 AM, said:
Compare this statement with this thread from a creative director of a
succesfull F2p
You ll see how much the forums are abandoned by the devs in mwo
http://robocraftgame...-rail-round-ii/
Then you ll realize why so many things simply go wrong in mwo
the guy whos name shall not be named might lurn sumting outta dat
Not helpful.