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[bad arcade kitty]

snowballing largely isn't a mm problem

[Lexx]

With this new system I am looking forwards to playing coming on to the forums bragging about how they are tier 1 players and complaining about how they still have to carry the rest of their team.

Without any of them even knowing where they rank on the new tier system.

[Kristian Radoulov]

Ahahaha, people crying about this already.

[IraqiWalker]

InspectorG, on 17 August 2015 - 06:33 PM, said:

Ahh... IraqiWalker is well read!

Thank you XD. It's a book I truly enjoy (I honestly got into it at first because I heard some of the Arabic words in it.)

bad arcade kitty, on 17 August 2015 - 07:16 PM, said:

they simply should reconsider their decision to use scores

It's still better than using Elo.

Kristian Radoulov, on 17 August 2015 - 07:50 PM, said:

Ahahaha, people crying about this already.

It's a specialty of the community.

[Greenjulius]

This is a good change. If people are unhappy about it, they simply don't understand how bad the current system is.

Less 12-0 stomps can only be a good thing. Players at similar skill levels should always be able to kill an enemy mech or two, no matter how good one sides tactics are.

I'd love to allow players to view their tier. It would put to rest many of the players who claim to know everything, yet suck horribly at the game. I personally won't be surprised if I'm only in the 2nd tier, but I stopped caring about being good at this game months ago.

Edited by Greenjulius, 17 August 2015 - 08:10 PM.

[Kira Onime]

Greenjulius, on 17 August 2015 - 08:09 PM, said:

It would put to rest many of the players who claim to know everything, yet suck horribly at the game.

Game knowledge != pilot skill.

[IraqiWalker]

Kira_Onime, on 17 August 2015 - 08:14 PM, said:

Game knowledge != pilot skill.

Absolutely. I know an insane amount about the game's mechanics, how to best build mechs, and even some great piloting advice. That doesn't mean I'm top level. Not even close, because I don't have the skill to best utilize most of that stuff.

[KraftySOT]

Snowballing IS a match maker problem in so much as that its matching terrible mechs, against good mechs.

Ive never seen a roll happen, where one side didnt have good meta mechs, while the out side had crap mechs. At least not in solo queue.

Generally when I see the assault lance is a trial banshee, two victors and an awesome, and theres a quickdraw, or a bad dragon, or an ice ferret, or any of the plethora of crappy mechs making up a team, and one lone Firestarter with his 1500 MC worth of camo, just dying on the inside, I know the roll is imminent.

Edited by KraftySOT, 17 August 2015 - 08:34 PM.

[IraqiWalker]

KraftySOT, on 17 August 2015 - 08:31 PM, said:

Snowballing IS a match maker problem in so much as that its matching terrible mechs, against good mechs.

Ive never seen a roll happen, where one side didnt have good meta mechs, while the out side had crap mechs. At least not in solo queue.

Sometimes it's actually because one side is good. Good players know how to capitalize on mistakes, and advantages faster, and better than bad players.

12-11 matches are usually the ones where both teams made a lot of mistakes, and the team with the fewer mistakes won.

[KraftySOT]

I find the good teams, usually win 12-5 to 12-7 range. Because theyre willing to sacrifice themselves for a win. Theyll step out infront of that Whale and take an alpha when theyre already almost dead and missing weapons, so the pristine walking deathball behind them can take the kill. That and focus fire target fixation, people die, they just die with 5 kills. But I see these guys sit there calling out targets by the greek alphabet, and sure enough, people shoot those targets. Those guys always die, but have a buttload of kills. Thats a good way to go about it. But thats not a stomp.

The 12-1 12-0 stomps. Its almost always because the match maker put trials, noobs, bad mechs, and pure salt on one team, and Wubshees, Whales, Timbers, Doomcrows and such on the other.

I guess thats good players too. Since generally the good players arent going to take out crappy mechs.

I cant tell you what a Vindicator is like...because I would rather stab myself in the eyeball.

So I guess theres that.

But still, the people in the crappy mechs, with the crappy builds...thats the issue. Ive played over 5,000 matches of this game. Ive died first, fast, more than a few times. It happens to the best of us. When I sit there and watch people play these insanely bad builds, it just kills me a little on the inside. When I see founders do it...and its not Bishop. I want to ragevomit.

Edited by KraftySOT, 17 August 2015 - 08:41 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

KraftySOT, on 17 August 2015 - 08:40 PM, said:

I find the good teams, usually win 12-5 to 12-7 range. Because theyre willing to sacrifice themselves for a win. Theyll step out infront of that Whale and take an alpha when theyre already almost dead and missing weapons, so the pristine walking deathball behind them can take the kill.

wave that farewell

we play score hunting now, sacrificing yourself can make your score too low to qualify for the win/to get loss forgiven

[Greenjulius]

IraqiWalker, on 17 August 2015 - 08:19 PM, said:

Absolutely. I know an insane amount about the game's mechanics, how to best build mechs, and even some great piloting advice. That doesn't mean I'm top level. Not even close, because I don't have the skill to best utilize most of that stuff.

I think my point is that people can know everything there is to know, but not how to put it into practice.

Being good requires more than just twitch skill; it requires discipline, and lots of it. People have a better point if they can back their words with actions.

I know I'm definitely lacking in both, but I do have a decent idea of current balance in this game. Stats can tell you a lot, but they can't tell you how bad some weapons and mechs are in actual practice. I value experience greatly.

Edited by Greenjulius, 17 August 2015 - 08:47 PM.

[KraftySOT]

Like I said before. Ive been shooting legs for two years now.

To keep my PSR low, so I can keep killing noobs, im going to change that up to shooting CTs that are already damaged. No more solo kill, most damage dealt for me.

Im going to stay where the fish are biting. You guys enjoy your top "dont earn you anymore cbills dont win nothing" tier and fighting over scraps with each other.

Edited by KraftySOT, 17 August 2015 - 08:47 PM.

[Moomtazz]

Forum Warriors and StreakCrutch pilots not wanting their ratings shown??? SHOCKING!!!

[Mystere]

bad arcade kitty, on 17 August 2015 - 08:42 PM, said:

wave that farewell

we play score hunting now, sacrificing yourself can make your score too low to qualify for the win/to get loss forgiven

And whose fault is that?

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Jman5, on 17 August 2015 - 05:36 PM, said:

It's kind of humorous how everyone insists they are the ones doing the carrying. Obviously we can't all be carriers or else there would be no one to carry!

Stop carrying me like your blushing bride.

[Mystere]

With the incoming matchmaking changes, I am so tempted to just go for early caps. The tears will be so delicious, and the rage from the stat-hos so epic. <maniacal >

Edited by Mystere, 17 August 2015 - 09:04 PM.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Mystere, on 17 August 2015 - 09:00 PM, said:

And whose fault is that?

Bruv, in solo queue, my 11 teammates are just mobile cover.

[bad arcade kitty]

Mystere, on 17 August 2015 - 09:00 PM, said:

And whose fault is that?

pgi's

they claim that it's a team game and reward the solo performance above the mere game result

[Mystere]

bad arcade kitty, on 17 August 2015 - 09:04 PM, said:

pgi's

they claim that it's a team game and reward the solo performance above the mere game result

But who loudly cried and whined about individual performance not being rewarded richly enough?